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Hi, I'm a foreigner and I'd like to know how to get a motorbike lisence here in Singapore and how much? and where and what number to contact (ie: Driving Centre...).
I've been riding motorbike for several years(without a lisence though) in my country so I think the pratical test is not a problem. But I'm quite scared of theory as I've heard it's quite hard to pass, you need to get 90% correct is it?
I used to ride automatic gear transmission bikes, so is there any place that I can rent a bike and practice without a lisence? I havent touched one for quite sometime.
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hi there, heard about the learner plate system in other countries like UK. in singapore, operating any vehicle on the road without a valid license is an offence. the old system was that you could just slap on a "L" plate and ride until you're confident enough to take the test.Originally posted by Warlock:Hi, I'm a foreigner and I'd like to know how to get a motorbike lisence here in Singapore and how much? and where and what number to contact (ie: Driving Centre...).
I've been riding motorbike for several years(without a lisence though) in my country so I think the pratical test is not a problem. But I'm quite scared of theory as I've heard it's quite hard to pass, you need to get 90% correct is it?
I used to ride automatic gear transmission bikes, so is there any place that I can rent a bike and practice without a lisence? I havent touched one for quite sometime.
Thanks alot in advance.
currently, there are 3 driving/riding centres. bukit batok driving centre (BBDC), singapore safety driving centre (SSDC), and comfort safety driving centre (CDC). SSDC is located at yio chu kang, near the MRT station, just behind the civil defence camp. CDC is located at ubi. don't have the numbers, try their websites.
www.ssdcl.com.sg www.bbdc.com.sg www.cdc.com.sg
as for the theory lessons, it's not that bad, but i cannot remember the exact required standard. i think if you get 5 or less answers wrong, out of 50 or 60, you pass the test. for riding, only a single test, the riding theory test, is required, unlike driving.
if you wish to practise without a license, the driving centres offer this service, with the condition that you'd have attained at least a certain standard in their syllabus. this varies for driving centre to centre, so i'm not that sure.
just enrol and start the lessons, practising without a license is not advisable for public roads, as it is illegal. and you cannot rent a bike without a valid license and one year's experience in riding for that license class. practice sessions (called "self-practice" in SSDC) don't cost more than $11 or $12 per session (100 minutes). it's not worth the risk, as the penalty for riding/driving without a license is a fine and a 2 year ban from learning/driving for all vehicle classes. will be worse if you hit someone...
hope this helps.
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ok singapore has 3 driving center
1.cdc [located at ubi]
2.ssdc [located at ang mo kio]
3.bbdc [located at bukit batok]
for each of de driving centers u have to enroll its about $90++ for ur theory lesson dat consist of 4 lesson + enrollment fee + 1st pratical
it will cost around $20 per pratical [For circuit lessons]
It will cost around around $29 to $31 [For road lessons]
after taking 4 theory lesson u must sit for ur evalution theory test 60 question not more den 6 mistake after dat u can book ur riding theory test [rtt][50 question not more den 5 mistake] if u pass ur rtt u will be given a pdl [provisional driving licence so dat u can go on de public road for pratical lessons]
In ssdc n cdc u got to go throught 8 stages
In bbdc u got to go throught 13 stages
AFTER DAT Den it will be ur [TP] Traffic police test ] if u pass u got a qualifyed riding lincence [if u fail u got to sit for de tp test again]
AS For de theory test its quite easy if u go for more theory revisionS .
As for renting a bike w/o a lincence is not possible , but after u have enroll into de driving center ,you can rent a bike n play inside de driving center Only.
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Thanks alot l3stat and Gums!!!
I'll check their websites for the numbers. however, I really wish to take the exams without having to enrol in classes or courses as they are quite expensive. I'm still a student and working to support myself as well. So paying for classes is not one of my options. I'm very confident in my riding experience (not theory) as where I came from the traffic is a nightmare compared to Singapore. So if anyone can lend me his theory book, I'll be very grateful. -
I've just checked the Driving Centre's websites. Both S'pore Safety Driving Centre and COnfort Driving Centre specifically stated that I have to go through the whole courses before I can take the theory and practical tests. Only Bukit Batok doesnt mention that. However, I highly suspect they will require me to complete the course before that.
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you're welcome... for your question, yes, you will be required to go through the whole course. but with your experience, i can say that the cost of getting the license would be minimal.Originally posted by Warlock:I've just checked the Driving Centre's websites. Both S'pore Safety Driving Centre and COnfort Driving Centre specifically stated that I have to go through the whole courses before I can take the theory and practical tests. Only Bukit Batok doesnt mention that. However, I highly suspect they will require me to complete the course before that.
So is there anyway that I can take the tests without having to go through the courses?
approximate figures (at SSDC or CDC)
enrolment: $70
5 circuit lessons: 5 x $22
3 road lessons: 5 x $32
RTT enrolment: $6
PDL application: $20/25 (can't remember)
traffic police practical test: $30
so that works out to be about $400, give and take, say, $30 for your self-practice lessons. i don't foresee that you'll be stuck at any of the lessons (this is how some people incur higher costs; if you don't attain the standard required to "pass" lesson 1, you repeat lesson 1), given your riding experience (a few years is quite a lot!)
if you had a valid license from your home country, the hassle would be much less. if i'm not wrong, it just involves a theory test, upon passing which you'd get your license.
anyway, best of luck! do let us know when you get your license!
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no ... you must complete the whole course For Your InfoOriginally posted by Warlock:So is there anyway that I can take the tests without having to go through the courses?
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Just out of my curiosity, which country did you come from?Originally posted by Warlock:So is there anyway that I can take the tests without having to go through the courses? -
I just called the ppl there. They said I must have student pass or PR. Damn it man, I'm still on Social Visit Pass, going to NUS this July, so I have to wait for 3 months. Argggg.
I came from Vietnam. The roads there usually have only 2 lanes and they are 2-way. So usually the distance between vehicles can be around 10cm, I swear, sometimes my handle bar hit other vehicles. :-D . Quite dangerous. When I came here, I found that the roads are very safe.
Thanks alot to you guys. Will be joining you guys this July or August... :-D -
If paying for classes is not an option, I'd suggest you to hold your horses for the time being. I dunno how difficult it is to get a license in Vietnam, but I assume it'll cost you less than it'll cost you in Spore.Originally posted by Warlock:I just called the ppl there. They said I must have student pass or PR. Damn it man, I'm still on Social Visit Pass, going to NUS this July, so I have to wait for 3 months.
If getting a license there is not too much a hassle, it's better to get a license there (you do go back to Vietnam for holiday once in a while, don't you? ). Then when you get back to Spore, you can just convert your license, as l3stat has mentioned before. The effort is minimal compared to having to go thru the entire normal process. And it'll cost you less than 50 bucks, if I remember correctly. You just need to pass the theory test, which is not very tough (based on my experience). Almost all questions can be answered using common sense, except the ones that involve signs or street markings. The theory book can be bought when you enroll for the theory test.
Once you pass the theory test, bring the notification letter to Traffic Police HQ at Paya Lebar, and they'll convert your license for you. It's not a probation license, so you don't have to put on P-plate on your bike / car. Good luck! -
hey...i went vietnam during my army days b4...n i think it's damn cool
the way to cross the road in vietnam...just close yr eyes n walk past rite???hahaha...
the pple here wouldn't understand unless they have been to vietnam...
n btw...the traffic in vietnam is really atrocious...hahaha...dun think i would be able to ride a bike there...stress level too high...Originally posted by Warlock:I just called the ppl there. They said I must have student pass or PR. Damn it man, I'm still on Social Visit Pass, going to NUS this July, so I have to wait for 3 months. Argggg.
I came from Vietnam. The roads there usually have only 2 lanes and they are 2-way. So usually the distance between vehicles can be around 10cm, I swear, sometimes my handle bar hit other vehicles. :-D . Quite dangerous. When I came here, I found that the roads are very safe.
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Warlock,
i think its not advisable for u to get ur viet lic 1st then convert into S'pore lic later, given ur current situation.
i had my foreign lic converted to s'pore lic in yr 2000 and this is what i encountered...
-at least consecutive 6mths in the foreign country after obtaining the lic(muz bring passport to verify)
-valid foreign lic(meaning the expiry date)
-basic theory test pass slip(riding theory test is not appliable for conversion)
>>>bring above 3 docs to Traffic Police Headquarter at Ubi for conversion on the spot.
fyi, i was given probation lic and i was lic to ride only class 2b bikes even if foreign lic shows all categories of bikes.
given ur current situation, it is best to complete the whole course in sch. i'm afraid no short cut here. i believe u can get lic within 2-3mths. -
Dun quite understand... why is it not advisable?Originally posted by graccz:i think its not advisable for u to get ur viet lic 1st then convert into S'pore lic later, given ur current situation.
-at least consecutive 6mths in the foreign country after obtaining the lic(muz bring passport to verify)
Dun understand this point... does it mean you have to stay in Spore for at least 6 months after you convert your license?-valid foreign lic(meaning the expiry date)
This one makes sense, and it's quite obvious, isn't it? However, if your foreign license has already expired, you can still convert it to Spore license. There're additional requirements, though. http://www.gov.sg/mha/spf/ecitizen/services/Driving_in_Singapore/Generated/Index/proc_index.htmlfyi, i was given probation lic and i was lic to ride only class 2b bikes even if foreign lic shows all categories of bikes.
Are you sure it's probation license? So you have to put on P-plate? Your experience is different than mine, then. I didn't get probation license when I converted mine.
About getting a 2B, I think it's fair enuff.
If you get your license locally (without converting), you'll also get a 2B. So there's no difference. http://www.gov.sg/mha/spf/ecitizen/services/Driving_in_Singapore/Generated/Ax_FAQ/faq40.html -
my fren in australia ride 250cc.
come back here ride 150cc.
u say leh?
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yah.. :-D .. moreover, most of the bikers there dont have a lisence (like me heheheh) or they buy the lisence. And the worst thing is that youngsters there love to swerve/swing their bikes on the street cos the police in VN sux. :-DOriginally posted by sunnyday:hey...i went vietnam during my army days b4...n i think it's damn cool
the way to cross the road in vietnam...just close yr eyes n walk past rite???hahaha...
the pple here wouldn't understand unless they have been to vietnam...
n btw...the traffic in vietnam is really atrocious...hahaha...dun think i would be able to ride a bike there...stress level too high... -
Thanks alot for your info, however, I still have some doubts:
How did you prove then? I only go back this December for abt 1 month. I wont be able to stay there for 6 months.Originally posted by graccz:Warlock,
i think its not advisable for u to get ur viet lic 1st then convert into S'pore lic later, given ur current situation.
i had my foreign lic converted to s'pore lic in yr 2000 and this is what i encountered...
-at least consecutive 6mths in the foreign country after obtaining the lic(muz bring passport to verify)-valid foreign lic(meaning the expiry date)
what is the riding theory test??
-basic theory test pass slip(riding theory test is not appliable for conversion)
>>>bring above 3 docs to Traffic Police Headquarter at Ubi for conversion on the spot.
fyi, i was given probation lic and i was lic to ride only class 2b bikes even if foreign lic shows all categories of bikes.
given ur current situation, it is best to complete the whole course in sch. i'm afraid no short cut here. i believe u can get lic within 2-3mths.[/B][/QUOTE] -
snailrider, u foreigner?
nt advisable cos even if warlock go bac viet nw to get bike lic, he needs to stay in viet for @ least consecutive 6mths after obtaining his lic b4 he can convert his viet lic to spore lic. he is startin uni in jul, so he might nt make it for the 6 mths. if he heng heng can convert(whic is sometimes possible), most probably given probation lic cos he juz got viet bike lic...
was mentioning oni can convert to class 2b cos i hope warlock wun upgrade himself/herself to bigger bikes in viet...cos he/she cant convert viet class 2 to spore class 2 bt oni to class 2b -
like me lehOriginally posted by nismoS132:my fren in australia ride 250cc.
come back here ride 150cc.
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warlock,
6 mths is proven by the departure n arrival date stamp on the passport. i can tell u by law as at 2000 is 6 mths bt sometimes less than 6 mths is acceptable. try at ur own risk...
riding theory test(rtt)= theory test for bike lic in spore
basic theory test(btt)= 1st theory test for car in spore
hwever, conversion to spore bike lic requires btt NOT rtt -
I say we gotta accept it, like it or not. Unfortunately, it's the rule in Spore, and bitching about having to ride a smaller cc bike won't make the government bend the rule just for you, will it?Originally posted by nismoS132:my fren in australia ride 250cc.
come back here ride 150cc.
u say leh?
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Yes, I'm also a foreigner, converted my license in November last year.Originally posted by graccz:snailrider, u foreigner?
nt advisable cos even if warlock go bac viet nw to get bike lic, he needs to stay in viet for @ least consecutive 6mths after obtaining his lic b4 he can convert his viet lic to spore lic.
Just called TP HQ, the officer told me that in order to convert, the driving license must be at least 6 months old since the day it was issued. But the person doesn't have to stay outside Spore for 6 months. So he can get the license from his own country, then enter Spore and stay happily here for 6 months until it's valid for him to convert.
I'm not saying your information is wrong, but maybe the regulation has changed over the time. Or maybe your case was a special one, who knows?
Anyway, warlock, since there're different versions of the story, I'd suggest you to call them personally to verify about the procedure. -
i believe regulations change over time, tts y i stated clearly it was yr 2000 tt i converted my lic and those were wat i encountered in yr 2000. the foreign lic conversion form tt i filled in stated at least consecutive 6 mths stayin in the country wher the lic was issued. hwever, ther will always be exceptional cases for lic conversion. the best is to go down personally n check it out. i hav friends successfully converted their 3mth old lics bt oni after hrs of interview wif the officers. warlock, u can try at ur own risk. else, it might b better to get ur lic in spore...u need mayb 2-3 mths...
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it's really quite a site lor...seeing 4 pple on ONE bike...hahaha...other places cannot find wan...i neber seen police in vietnam b4 ah...hee..only army officials...Originally posted by Warlock:yah.. :-D .. moreover, most of the bikers there dont have a lisence (like me heheheh) or they buy the lisence. And the worst thing is that youngsters there love to swerve/swing their bikes on the street cos the police in VN sux. :-D
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hey dun mind me asking ahzz how's vietnam like? izzit nice? i was actually considering going to the capitol ho chi minh city for holiday upon recommendation frm my frnd......he say there quite nice n cheap.....true??
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Yup, the food and commodation is damn cheap, however, U need to be careful cos they usually like to cut throat foreingers hehehe.Originally posted by toons9:hey dun mind me asking ahzz how's vietnam like? izzit nice? i was actually considering going to the capitol ho chi minh city for holiday upon recommendation frm my frnd......he say there quite nice n cheap.....true??