Just buy new bike.Got some problems
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How come my bike got a lot of white smoke and i mean a lot juz like mosquito fogging.I am using TTS 2t.Is it becoz of the 2T?My friend say new bike is like that one.Is it true.And when I never start like one or two days like very difficult to start.Btw my bike is KIPS.Thanks guys
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dun worry! its like that. probably ur mechanic tune the 2T intake slightly higher as ur new piston will need more lube! n its better for bigger intake. more 2T will not harm but too little 2T will cause jams!
same when difficult to start! all bikes r like that!
a new bike will not give u any major problem... -
I check my 2t in my bike today Coz the 2T indicator say must top up.But I still have at least 30% full.Why?And how come the 2t used so fast?From about 80% full become 30% in just about 280km.And 2t can mixed or not?I now using TTS.But I bought 2 bottle of repsol 2T.
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dun judge by ur eyes, top it up to the brim, and count how long it takes b4 ur indicator light up again...Originally posted by F50:I check my 2t in my bike today Coz the 2T indicator say must top up.But I still have at least 30% full.Why?And how come the 2t used so fast?From about 80% full become 30% in just about 280km.And 2t can mixed or not?I now using TTS.But I bought 2 bottle of repsol 2T.
if it is still 50 percent per 280km, then get it check, jus tell the mech ur problem
if no problem jus turn down the 2T pump will do..
but b very careful where u do it, any wrong intake will cause ur pistons to screw.. -
dun worry about it..
kips when overnight no start, next morning kick like siao (new bike) den can start wan..
then my bike 2t intake for first 2mths is 700km per 1 full 2t bottle. i never realise tat until got one time i top up den 4 days later top up again.. den i think how come so fast.. so i started calculating the distance i ran before my 2t light come up.. it's about 700km like tat. so i went to my mech and tune the 2t lower abit.. remember dun save on 2t if not piston jam den it's more costly..
good luck. -
f50
abt yr prob rite... nutting wan lah...i rather u spend more on 2t thn on overhauls.
abit bigger nvm...scared get caught?? still nvm buy smokeless 2tcan liao -
Thanks guys.Any good engine oil to recommend?Changing soon.
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my new kips also giving me the same problem man....
and to make things worst... i dun really know much about bikes....
everytime i wanna start... i have to open the choke... if not cannot even start...
after tat.. i let it idle... after one ciggerette... still alot of white smoke...
went out for awhile.. come back and park... still alot... i really dunno wat is wrong...
about starting... my friend said that i need to change the or you... any suggestions? -
no lar smoke or no smoke for 2 stroke bikes has got nothing to do with the gear box. your friend's "or you" means the 4T or gear oil in the gearbox. "or you" also refers to the 4T in the crankcase for 4 strokers. if there's black smoke for a 4 stroke bike, probably means the piston rings are loose.
for your bike, probably the 2T intake is a little high, no harm as the rest said. but coupled with a rich mixture, maybe you'll have to change spark plugs more often. make sure you carry a spare plug around in your bike.
eh but with that said, your friend is not wrong to tell you to change 4T.. during run-in it should be done regularly.. but your smoke problem is not caused by 4T lar...
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few days back i saw one new kips waiting at the traffic at bukit merah....wah!. starting cannot see the bike....cos alot cars blocking...but can see thick smoke rising high. tot got accident or wat...when i rode pass...i saw the bike....wahahha...the smoke is really like those thermal fogging. damn thick and white. really felt like laughing when i see the biker surrounded by it's own 2t smoke.
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maybe he just finnished a burnout
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For my is around 1400km per litre, by the way my bike is FT plate.
Smoke only can see in morning, think due cool engine(park whle night),after warm up the white smoke will get less.
Anyway white smoke is the signature of 2 stroke. Dun worry so much. -
Hi,
I'm riding KIPs too. Mine FT plate and almost 1 year old liao.
2B bikes need a kind of special oil called 2T to lubricate the piston. For 4 stroke bike, this oil is not needed. Excess 2T oil is the source of the white smoke you are observing.
The white smoke is ok initially. It means your engine is receiving the oil. But a lot of white smoke not only not good to the environment, TP also might catch. Initially, when I had my bike new, there was a lot of white smoke. But as I wear-in my bike the amount of smoke became lesser until can see just a bit oonly. This I cannot explain.
In your case, I think the 2T is a bit too much. You might want to get a mechnic to adjust for you. Some info for your reference. In the morning, when you start the bike for the first time of the day, some times a lot of smoke one. But after a few minutes, I dun see any more smoke. I always let my engine warm up for a minute or 2 before moving off, else the bike really won't move one. And while stationary, you open throttle to give the engine a sudden acceleration, you should see smoke. Otherwise monitor your 2T consumption. I had one case where I did not have to top up the 2T for quite some time. Then it occured to me how come so long liao the 2T like never used up like dat ... maybe the 2T tube cot .... You get the idea ? Which brings to my attention to record every 2T change. If the interval gts unusually long, then you might want to check your 2T line.
By the way, dun pour 2T into your fuel tank hor. KIPS uses 2T metering pump. I dunno what will happen if you start to pour into your fuel tank. And, another thing, look carefully where you pour leh ... I dunno, but I have heard of my friend puring 2T into the coolant bottle and the coolant pur into 2T bottle.
I'm using Castrol TTS. Good luck ! -
To:F50
I own a kips at 3 month old~ My total 62xxkm travel unit now i use 2 bottel+ 2t... i think better go back ask ur motor shop take a look lor~~
To:extr0vert
In the morning i also very hard to start need to open choke...
Anyway i using mobil racing 2T -
1.my sp 1.5 month old till now the red light still havnt blick...is that normal?now miledge at 1600km....i check see still got 2 t lei...
is this normal,cos u all say 700+ must top up already?
2.if i top up with mobil "super 2t" $5.50,is it ok?now running in...heard cant use good 2t..
3.sp must run in till how many km?
4.what is the max rpm i can go now??me dont want to spoilt the eng....mileage at 1600km....next svc{2000-2500km)
5.sp valve open at 7rpm is it?but i feel more vibration around 6 rpm lei..??!!scare no 2t going to piston....
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