Problem with 2A ... Haizz ....
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haizz ... First time I fall down during lesson (wah lau eh ... 2A liao still fall down), and it had to be 2 times in a day ... looks like the road to 2A is gonna be really long for me ...
Like to ask some questions here ....
Is it normal that the throttles of 2A class bikes ... just twist a bit only, the RPM jump up liao ... The throttle very sensitive one ... I cannot seem to be able to control the throttle. Twist a bit the RPM jump up suddenly, so release a bit the engine brake so strong that the whole bike jerked. Now I have problem with the figure-8, crank course, and bumpy course. The bike jerk until siao ... But I see the instructor ... Use only 1 hand control throttle, the other hand point here point there, bike ride until so fast in the igure-8 ... so zai one ... sighh ... think I dun have the skill to control the bike ...
And why we have to go bumpy course ? I really cant think of a reason ... You dun have that kind of bumps on the road ... so why are we going through the bumps ? For trailing ah ? The Hornet is a sports bike (the instructor say one), so cant be for trailing wat ... not scrambler .... Then somemore have to stand up ? Why har, cannot sit down meh ? And cannot just anyhow stand ... Stand straight cannot ... Must shift the whole body somewehere over the fuel tank. Why ? Shift the CG until like that so unnatural ...
Haizz ....
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I tink I got posted somewhere saying that the transition from 2B to 2A is not so easy. Its very normal for the engine to rev alot just by increasing the throttle abit, and the engine break is a real killer.Originally posted by Noah:haizz ... First time I fall down during lesson (wah lau eh ... 2A liao still fall down), and it had to be 2 times in a day ... looks like the road to 2A is gonna be really long for me ...
Like to ask some questions here ....
Is it normal that the throttles of 2A class bikes ... just twist a bit only, the RPM jump up liao ... The throttle very sensitive one ... I cannot seem to be able to control the throttle. Twist a bit the RPM jump up suddenly, so release a bit the engine brake so strong that the whole bike jerked. Now I have problem with the figure-8, crank course, and bumpy course. The bike jerk until siao ... But I see the instructor ... Use only 1 hand control throttle, the other hand point here point there, bike ride until so fast in the igure-8 ... so zai one ... sighh ... think I dun have the skill to control the bike ...
And why we have to go bumpy course ? I really cant think of a reason ... You dun have that kind of bumps on the road ... so why are we going through the bumps ? For trailing ah ? The Hornet is a sports bike (the instructor say one), so cant be for trailing wat ... not scrambler .... Then somemore have to stand up ? Why har, cannot sit down meh ? And cannot just anyhow stand ... Stand straight cannot ... Must shift the whole body somewehere over the fuel tank. Why ? Shift the CG until like that so unnatural ...
Haizz ....
[This message has been edited by Noah (edited 28 April 2002).]
[This message has been edited by Noah (edited 28 April 2002).]
U just drag ur gear at 1st and 2nd gear and never close throttle fully....sure wobble one. Just close a bit will do. Its also easier to do the bumpy course standing up rather than sitting down...believe me....
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Dont worry i also have this problem before.You know why? Not due to the bike is too powerful is that we used to it aready cos 2B bike no power so we have to trottle a lot to get it moving. When i was learning also like that after lesson you will find that you trottle a bit on 2B bike it will die on you so dont you worry sure pass but must have patient ok good luck!
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half standing posture on fuel tank coz afraid some kiasu rev alot n throw clutch will wheelie! haha no lahz it's obvious its got to do wif the c.g. anyway try to sit on the fuel tank lor....it's quite easy to balance if ya posture is right
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Bumpy course no need stand too straight...in fact just stand up a bit can liao, knees bend inwards towards fuel tank then can find the balance very easily one...If TP dat day u feel bumpy course buay zai then just throttle and fuck care the time limit...better to clear the course then to to get immediate tio bo?
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went for 2A practical today, the power of S4 is really shiok but have problem with the Crank course, quite hard to control.
E brake on the wet floor also quite hard and buang..so have to re-lesson again.. -
use more front brakeOriginally posted by TZM 77:went for 2A practical today, the power of S4 is really shiok but have problem with the Crank course, quite hard to control.
E brake on the wet floor also quite hard and buang..so have to re-lesson again..
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but the instructor told mi buang is due to too much pressure on the front brake.Originally posted by nismoS132:use more front brake
But nw u r telling mi to use more front brake?? -
You can gradually brake in with your front. Or you can use your index finger and tap your front brakes.Originally posted by TZM 77:but the instructor told mi buang is due to too much pressure on the front brake.
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Firstly, you must understand that the front brakes are very much more effective in comparison to the rear brakes. Also, what your instructor meant was that if your front wheel gets locked, you're definitely gonna skid and fall. In contrast, if the rear wheel is locked, your bike will fishtail but it can still be pulled back.Originally posted by TZM 77:but the instructor told mi buang is due to too much pressure on the front brake.
But nw u r telling mi to use more front brake??
I would advise you to apply more of the front brakes(don't pull the lever all the way in though) and only a little of the rear brakes.
Don't worry, the S4 front double disc brakes are very effective so squeeze that lever harder. With the correct technique, you'll find the e-brake a breeze soon enough. -
when you brake (even if you use ONLY the rear brake), the weight of your bike is transferred to the front tyre, thus increasing traction.
that is also 1 reason why your forks sink under heavy breaking.
personally, i think it's safer to not touch your rear brakes at all during an ebrake. going under a car isn't a nice feeling
stoppies are that much safer (+ that extra COOL factor
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Thanks a lot for all u guy advise..
just went for pra 1 again, but this time i managed to pass liao.. -
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Noah:
[B]haizz ... First time I fall down during lesson (wah lau eh ... 2A liao still fall down), and it had to be 2 times in a day ... looks like the road to 2A is gonna be really long for me ...
Like to ask some questions here ....
Is it normal that the throttles of 2A class bikes ... just twist a bit only, the RPM jump up liao ... The throttle very sensitive one ... I cannot seem to be able to control the throttle. Twist a bit the RPM jump up suddenly, so release a bit the engine brake so strong that the whole bike jerked. Now I have problem with the figure-8, crank course, and bumpy course. The bike jerk until siao ... But I see the instructor ... Use only 1 hand control throttle, the other hand point here point there, bike ride until so fast in the igure-8 ... so zai one ... sighh ... think I dun have the skill to control the bike ...
And why we have to go bumpy course ? I really cant think of a reason ... You dun have that kind of bumps on the road ... so why are we going through the bumps ? For trailing ah ? The Hornet is a sports bike (the instructor say one), so cant be for trailing wat ... not scrambler .... Then somemore have to stand up ? Why har, cannot sit down meh ? And cannot just anyhow stand ... Stand straight cannot ... Must shift the whole body somewehere over the fuel tank. Why ? Shift the CG until like that so unnatural ...
Haizz ....
Well, you went to ssdc? I stopped my 2A abt 8 months ago, pract 1 and 2 1 time pass, but the L course(i think so) really giving me a problem, sometimes will go up the kerb, but lucky never fall, the prank also headache for me, just can't remain still on it, but dont know how i managed to cleared both practical with one try. :p :p
Now long time never go back liao, a bit scared and forgot the procedure, so i think will just stick to my 2B, got money then buy car. -
Still cannot get the clutch and the throttle right ... Haizz ... It's going to be really long ...
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Hey, don't be disheartened pal. Almost everyone encounters this problem while upgrading to 2A.Originally posted by Noah:Still cannot get the clutch and the throttle right ... Haizz ... It's going to be really long ...
I faced this problem too initially so let me share with you how I overcame it. Whenever I'm on the bike, say waiting for the lights to turn green or waiting for my turn to do the courses, I would play with the throttle. Get used to the responsiveness of the throttle. Try to make the rpm rise as slowly as possible. Once you get the hang of it, the various courses will become child's play. One more thing, when you close throttle, close it slowly as well just like how you open throttle. By doing this, the engine brake won't give you that much of a headache.
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i take prac 1 3 times. go prac 2 that time i still not very shun wif the throttle control. later go prac 3 become zai liao.Originally posted by Noah:Still cannot get the clutch and the throttle right ... Haizz ... It's going to be really long ...
is like that one
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Guys,
thanks for the support, finally made it through to TP liao .. Now waiting ...
Dunno how this happened ... Stage 1 & 2 had to take twice each. The last lesson before stage 3, my bike was jerking like hell ...
But today ... when I went for the stage 3 final evaluation, suddenly, the hand like not my hand, the throttle control was so smooth, i couldn't believe it .. (actually, still jerk a little, but compared with the last lesson, well ...) I just hope wasn't the bike, if it was then humz, TP day have to take back that bike ....
I see the sun ... ahah haha h ... -
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Noah:
Guys,
thanks for the support, finally made it through to TP liao .. Now waiting ...
Dunno how this happened ... Stage 1 & 2 had to take twice each. The last lesson before stage 3, my bike was jerking like hell ...
But today ... when I went for the stage 3 final evaluation, suddenly, the hand like not my hand, the throttle control was so smooth, i couldn't believe it .. (actually, still jerk a little, but compared with the last lesson, well ...) I just hope wasn't the bike, if it was then humz, TP day have to take back that bike ....
I see the sun ... ahah haha h ...[/QUOTE
Wat is the date for your TP...mi 11 of Jun leh at SSDC. -
Originally posted by TZM 77:
Same here ... but at BBDC
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Noah:
[b]Guys,
thanks for the support, finally made it through to TP liao .. Now waiting ...
Dunno how this happened ... Stage 1 & 2 had to take twice each. The last lesson before stage 3, my bike was jerking like hell ...
But today ... when I went for the stage 3 final evaluation, suddenly, the hand like not my hand, the throttle control was so smooth, i couldn't believe it .. (actually, still jerk a little, but compared with the last lesson, well ...) I just hope wasn't the bike, if it was then humz, TP day have to take back that bike ....
I see the sun ... ahah haha h ...[/QUOTE
Wat is the date for your TP...mi 11 of Jun leh at SSDC.[/B]