can change engine oil ourselves?
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izzit possible to do it? or must go motoshop? my one is phantom 200 leh, anybody with this bike done it before?
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me and jiaju from #RVF just changed our engine oil on our own last friday for the first time. his is RVF and mine is NSR125. wasn too hard lah if u know where your plug is and wat size socket u need.
but i would advise u to go motorshop and do it if u never seen it done on your bike b4. at least u know wat problems u would encounter.
lastly a little reminder... if u do it by urself, remember to remove the oil cap when draining the oil to prevent a vacuum created inside. -
by right its a easy thing to do, but it wil dirty ur hands if not careful..
that time i went to motoshop n change..
the mech unscrew some part or wat, n then he take a plastic container n put below the 'hole' for the used engine oil black color one to flow out... finish oredi screw it back, n then open another cap n pour the new engine oil in...settle liao..
2b bike use normally less than 1 L of engine oil, coming close to 1 L like that lar...
so u go motoshop jus buy a bottle of 1L engine oil from them, they jus change for u, the remaining oil dunno wat they use for lar.. if u niao, then take back the remaining oil lor..
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Juz find the sump plug and unscrew it, the oil will drain from there once you take out the screw.
It's a hex screw. For my SP, it near to the gear lever on the left side. -
may i know where is the plastic container?Originally posted by WhitePhantom:by right its a easy thing to do, but it wil dirty ur hands if not careful..
that time i went to motoshop n change..
the mech unscrew some part or wat, n then he take a plastic container n put below the 'hole' for the used engine oil black color one to flow out... finish oredi screw it back, n then open another cap n pour the new engine oil in...settle liao..
2b bike use normally less than 1 L of engine oil, coming close to 1 L like that lar...
so u go motoshop jus buy a bottle of 1L engine oil from them, they jus change for u, the remaining oil dunno wat they use for lar.. if u niao, then take back the remaining oil lor.. -
may i know where is the plastic container?Originally posted by daniuge:[QUOTE]Originally posted by WhitePhantom:
[b]by right its a easy thing to do, but it wil dirty ur hands if not careful..
that time i went to motoshop n change..
the mech unscrew some part or wat, n then he take a plastic container n put below the 'hole' for the used engine oil black color one to flow out... finish oredi screw it back, n then open another cap n pour the new engine oil in...settle liao..
2b bike use normally less than 1 L of engine oil, coming close to 1 L like that lar...
so u go motoshop jus buy a bottle of 1L engine oil from them, they jus change for u, the remaining oil dunno wat they use for lar.. if u niao, then take back the remaining oil lor..
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the box he is reffering to is anyt bucket, used givi box or even plastic bag to store the used engine oil
if u can jus park ur bike directly on top of a sewer n jus let the stuff flow in
take note, different bike use different capacity of gear oil/4t -
I don't think one should just dump the waste oil into the sewers. The used oil should be stored in a plastic container (those 1.25L soft drink bottles are suitable) and disposed off at either a workshop or petrol station for proper disposal.
Let's be more environmentally responsible if one is planning on DIYing. -
Just open the hex screw and plastic cap. Be careful....once u open the hex screw...oil will start to srip. That is the engine oil.Originally posted by daniuge:izzit possible to do it? or must go motoshop? my one is phantom 200 leh, anybody with this bike done it before?
Drain every last bit of oil.
Screw back the hex screw. Put the new engine oil(at plastic cap entrance). Finally put back the plastic cap.
Tats it!.
Some ppl may want to put some oil or dirt remover into the engine before putting in the new engine oil but its optional. -
u rather i dispose it in the sewer or i dispose it on the grass, my friend dispose it on his enemies' bikeOriginally posted by owm:I don't think one should just dump the waste oil into the sewers. The used oil should be stored in a plastic container (those 1.25L soft drink bottles are suitable) and disposed off at either a workshop or petrol station for proper disposal.
Let's be more environmentally responsible if one is planning on DIYing. -
Actually, I think the three options you stated are not acceptable at all but please, do what you like/wish. I am just stating a sensible and responsible opinion as I don't believe that our sewer system was designed to remove such waste products like oils, paints etc. that is why petrol stations and workshops have used oil drums to collect spent oils.Originally posted by ah_tee:u rather i dispose it in the sewer or i dispose it on the grass, my friend dispose it on his enemies' bike
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One more point to take note:
Never change oil and spark plug when the engine is still HOT! -
[/B][/QUOTE]Originally posted by owm:Actually, I think the three options you stated are not acceptable at all but please, do what you like/wish. I am just stating a sensible and responsible opinion as I don't believe that our sewer system was designed to remove such waste products like oils, paints etc. that is why petrol stations and workshops have used oil drums to collect spent oils.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ah_tee:
[b] u rather i dispose it in the sewer or i dispose it on the grass, my friend dispose it on his enemies' bike
if u been down to the sewers, u will know tat it is really no point lor
wad harm can 650ml of gear oil do?
i dun think i will even kill more than 2 roaches
since u so repsonsible, y not do some communnity service by cleanin up the sewers? -
eh tee he is right lah~ we should take care of the environment more. dun need me to elaborate u should also know it is everybody's responsiblity.
do try to drain off your used oil into a plastic container AFTER u line it with a plastic bag. dat way u can wwrap it up after wards and easily dispose it and still reuse the container.
in this aspect it would be better to let the motor shop do it since they have a spent oil drum to dispose of the oil. -
put into 2t container then nxt time go mototiam just pour in loh...
try not to throw into dustbin lah... coz some garbage is used to reclaim land...
if pour into drain... singapore's drainage system sends the water collected to the reservoirs, so if you don't mind drinking engine oil, pls go ahead ^_^
and ah tee ah.... if everyone think like you, the sewers become all oil liao...
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guys, i would like to ask u all
u all been down to the sewers b4
nismosis, the water is going to the water plant n later to the sea la
but if u think properly, i doubt it will reach there anyway -
yes i been into the sewers b4 and i always slip on the goddamn grime on the floor left there bcos inconsiderate ppl empty their used motoroil into the drains. the oil will only float and cause the rubbish to clog up at the surface and hence the whole sewage chokes up. throwing into the dustbin is better than that at least.Originally posted by ah_tee:guys, i would like to ask u all
u all been down to the sewers b4
nismosis, the water is going to the water plant n later to the sea la
but if u think properly, i doubt it will reach there anyway
by the way... de water in the sewers will be treated and the cleaned water will be reused for industry, but the sludge left behind is a big headache and if there is oil, it makes it tough to reuse as fertilizer. -
If 10 bikers throw 650 ml each....it would come up to 6.5 l. If 100, 65 l. If there are 10,000 bikers in sg.... u do ur own calculations...Originally posted by ah_tee:if u been down to the sewers, u will know tat it is really no point lor
wad harm can 650ml of gear oil do?
i dun think i will even kill more than 2 roaches
since u so repsonsible, y not do some communnity service by cleanin up the sewers? -
it may matter alot to u, but to me i dun believe how big a harm b doneOriginally posted by feng125:yes i been into the sewers b4 and i always slip on the goddamn grime on the floor left there bcos inconsiderate ppl empty their used motoroil into the drains. the oil will only float and cause the rubbish to clog up at the surface and hence the whole sewage chokes up. throwing into the dustbin is better than that at least.
by the way... de water in the sewers will be treated and the cleaned water will be reused for industry, but the sludge left behind is a big headache and if there is oil, it makes it tough to reuse as fertilizer. -
*SPEECHLESS*Originally posted by ah_tee:it may matter alot to u, but to me i dun believe how big a harm b done
i hope not everyone thinks this way. -
jus like pple think it does not do much harm to litter and dirty toilets, i think its alot of harmOriginally posted by feng125:*SPEECHLESS*
i hope not everyone thinks this way. -
ah tee, relax, relax, dun get angry. din noe such a harmless thread can spark off so many things. thanks guys for all your help given.Originally posted by ah_tee:jus like pple think it does not do much harm to litter and dirty toilets, i think its alot of harm cheer up! -
Yes, I too agree that littering is a great offence to the environment and the inability to use toilet facilities cleanly reflects badly on our society, that is why I take heed that I myself do not do such a thing. So since emptying spent oils into the sewer system is also the wrong thing to do, shouldn't we, as responsible adults, do our part by disposing of it properly?
I am guessing you tell your friends who do not think litter and dirty toilets is wrong how much "harm" it is; we are doing the same thing here, which is to bring to attention and focus on a practice that you might have miscontrued as acceptable, where in reality it is not.Originally posted by ah_tee:jus like pple think it does not do much harm to litter and dirty toilets, i think its alot of harm -
eh while we're on the topic...
daniuge: have you ever worried about people saboing your bike? cos the engine oil cap is just a simple black screw on-and-off type right? i got a couple of enemies in school, and ONE of the reasons for not getting a 4-stroke is that i think it's easy to get saboed, like those bo-liao people can just unscrew the thing and put sand or whatever inside. i know there're a lot of other ways to sabo a bike lar, but still this is rather difficult to fix, and damage can be quite serious... (still there are other sabotage methods with the same outcome... but...) what do you think??
anyway, while i was searching for touratech accessories for the varadero 125, i found out they sell this tamper-proof engine oil cap... check the segment on touratech oil plug.
http://www.bracken.co.uk/touratech/catalog/epvar.htm
sounds like a good idea, cos only your allen key can open it. but if the boliao person really don't like you, he'll bring along a whole set of allen keys to test lar. and i wonder if these oil plugs would fit other bikes other than the varadero...
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errr ok i tell u wat. how abt i restrain myself from littering toilets (not like i do anyway) and ah tee u restrain ur self from emptying oil into the sewers (which u wun have to do often too).Originally posted by ah_tee:jus like pple think it does not do much harm to litter and dirty toilets, i think its alot of harm -
nowadays i do it at bike shop la..Originally posted by feng125:errr ok i tell u wat. how abt i restrain myself from littering toilets (not like i do anyway) and ah tee u restrain ur self from emptying oil into the sewers (which u wun have to do often too).
too lazy also