Newbie here, problem steering bike in the right direction
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Register for 2B lessons, and after the first practical lesson, found that the bike is so damn heavy to steer. Any pointers????
I am 1.78 m, 66kg quite fit....
I mean I saw females riding smoothly, doesn't need to use much strength, and here I am sweating away during every turn.
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It'll be even more disheartening to see a petite gal on the road riding her R6 / R1 effortlesslyOriginally posted by bbwolf:Register for 2B lessons, and after the first practical lesson, found that the bike is so damn heavy to steer. Any pointers????
I am 1.78 m, 66kg quite fit....
I mean I saw females riding smoothly, doesn't need to use much strength, and here I am sweating away during every turn. 
But dun worry, it's just your 1st lesson, you'll get better once you get the hang of it. The best way to troubleshoot your problem is to ask the instructor. That's what they're there for.
Do you lean your body towards your turning direction? I saw some newbies are afraid to lean their body when turning. They turn the handle bar, but when the bike starts to lean, they use their bodies to counter-balance (to keep the bike upright), because they're afraid the bike will fall. I'd say that'll make turning pretty damn heavy
Unlike cars, bike wheels are aligned in a relatively straight line, even when turning. The shape of the tire causes the bike to turn when it leans to the left or right. So leaning is compulsory, but I'm sure you already know that. If that's not the cause of your problem, as I said, ask the instructor
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Thanks, snailrider.....
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heyhey i juz registered too.. got some starting off problem here.. do u all move off by openin the throttle abit and den releasing the clutch above halfway pt?
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Hi, MyNickisZ
Where u learn ur 2B lessons?
The way I do it, just open throttle a bit then release clutch slowly until the bike move lor...
Any more advice on the heavy steering????
And anyway to prevent burning my calf?
Damn it, all my leg hair gone. Which is the hot part of the bike anyway?
Went home after one lesson, and my calf already peeling skin. -
i learnin at cdc.. sometime i alr release clutch still cannot move den release more den stall liao.. sibei jialat... y skin will peel one? wat model ur using? yamaha? thigh shud grip fuel tank wat
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Prac one to balance only one thing to remember: legs don't open too big legs hug the fuel tank can liao.
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must synchro release clutch and jia you at same time.Originally posted by MyNickisZ:i learnin at cdc.. sometime i alr release clutch still cannot move den release more den stall liao.. sibei jialat... y skin will peel one? wat model ur using? yamaha? thigh shud grip fuel tank wat -
me learning at cdc too.
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Anyone from BBDC, cos I guess the new system for learning a little fucked-up.
Need to pick the time slot for each course accurately. -
Wah lao, give me bad advices...
I have done some researching liao....
The force is cause by the angle of the arms to the handles of the bike. As the angle is at around 45 degrees, instead of steering the handles, sort of pushing the handles against the ground.
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Course Structure for BBDC
Orientation contents : Introduction on riding a motorcycle , handling of motorcycle and operation of motorcycle
1 Subject : Moving , stopping and gear shifting
2 Subject : Speed control and cornering
3 Subject : Blind spot , target stopping and slope
4 Subject : Hazard courses
5 Subject : Narrow Plank
6 Subject : Emergency brake
7 Subject : Turnings , lane change and traffice rules
8 Subject : Circuit review and test route
9 Subject : Riding simulator and pillion riding
10 Subject : Comprehensive riding and circuit evaluation
11 Subject : Riding in light and medium density traffic
12 Subject : Riding in medium and heavy density traffic
13 Subject : comprehensive riding and final evaluation
This course structure is based on a few years back when I am still learning at BBDC and i do know that you got to watch a video on accidents now before you start but I suppose that is under Orientation contents.
For topic starter : Since you said that you just had your 1st practical ... I assume you are just at subject 1 . Learning how to turn will be on the 2nd subject where you will keep turning for the one whole session. 1st subject is also known as the BANG TYRE SESSION where you will move your motorcycle front and back and if you don't stop in time, the front tyre will hit the tyres hanging. This is to let you understand more on bike.
Some notes on my Training Record Book that my instructor wrote for me :
Subject 8
1) reviews skill course : Take note of pylon slalom and E brake
2) Review riding in observance of traffic rules : Take note of lane change, right turn and blind spots
Subject 9 confirm pass subject and after you pass your subject 10, you are able to book for self practice. Do book for more self practic to gain confidence and it's real fun riding in the circuit without any instructor to scold you or whatsoever and you can disturb them by going over to any instructor and keep asking stupid questions or use your footrest to strike the road while cornering in S course *haha*
Ops I forget you still in subject 1 ... anyway ... it's fun to ride a bike -
Thanks Nick, so kind of u. But for a moment thinks u are working for BBDC...kekeke -
turning with a bike. lean.
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Okay liao, thanks all for ur advices and comments.
I went for the 2nd lesson, and no need so much strength to steer the bike liao.
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no problem ... if you encounter more problems in future ... just sound out hereOriginally posted by bbwolf:Thanks Nick, so kind of u. But for a moment thinks u are working for BBDC...kekeke -
wat abt the startin off? throttle on abit den clutch out above midway?
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hey,
Steering a bike is one of the fundamentals to riding a bike.
The easiest way to steer a bike is like this:
to turn left ... push the handle bar on the left away from your body...
to turn right... push the handle bar on the right away from your body...
don't lean your body into the corner....
as the bike leans over during the turn ... keep your body as upright as possible....
try it.... it works.... it's called countersteering.....
cheers....
my 2cents worth -
if u feel u have probs moving off.. try opening more throttle.. test the biting point of ur bike 1st as diff bikes have diff biting point..
as for bike feeling heavy.. maybe u r tryin to steer the bike too much wif ur arms.. use ur body n lean.. good luck for ur pracs ! -
can you cycle? if you're a good cyclist, bikes should be the same...
i would advise people who wish to take up riding to learn cycling first if they cant.. heard of someone who learn to "balance" at the driving centre, ended up with countless "1st" lessons. not practical and a total waste of $$$. -
to turn right; push the handle bar on ur right away frm u?
to turn left; push the handle bar on ur left away frm u?
i don get it... maybe its some pro skills i haven figure out. or maybe some one can tell me wat is it all about?
negotiating corner at high speed, his theory is right.... am i right? tats the way pro did right?[/quote] -
Originally posted by all_souls:
to turn right; push the handle bar on ur right away frm u?
to turn left; push the handle bar on ur left away frm u?
i don get it... maybe its some pro skills i haven figure out. or maybe some one can tell me wat is it all about?
negotiating corner at high speed, his theory is right.... am i right? tats the way pro did right?
countersteering...
you push your right handle bar, ur bike will lean to the right naturally.
pro riders use lean width method when turning, that's when they bring the bike to its maximum cornering angle and use their body weight to shift the CG to counter the centrifugal force.
every bike has a maximum angle it can corner. so u use ur body weight for different situations. let's say u need make a u-turn, u will lean inwards of the turn while keeping ur bike straight so that u can negotiate a tight turn without losing the stability of ur bike.
because when u push your bike lower for the turn, u need more speed. u-turns are low speed, so u use ur body weight to turn for u. i forgot the name is technique... lean... something. -
btw, countersteering is most useful in tight situations... to quickly avoid things that are coming straight at you