Homosexuality is a mental illness.
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Haha....I wonder who's blind......Originally posted by casino_king:You are so blind. In speaking out against homosexuality, you have condemned homosexuality. You have given yourself the power to condemn homosexuality. Homosexuality is a perversion in that the sex does not lead to pregnancy. Does that mean that is it automatically a sin with the connotations of Judgement and Hell fire?
born again? I think u misuse that word too often liao, and u make pple fedup.... -
I agree......Originally posted by Icemoon:Huh .. when did believing in another religion become a mental illness?
I think if you have nothing constructive to say, then please shut up. You are looking like a fool now.
I think Christians are an easy target for you people to parade your self righteous bigotry and, may I add, misguided notion.
Cannot hood Islam so come and hood Christians ah?
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i don't expect them to do anything, it is what God expects and that is between them and God.Originally posted by stupidissmart:So u expect them to live a life of calibracy ?
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An act of love according to YHVH is that between a male and a female, another act is an abomination, even with the verses in front of you, you sill choose to want to say YHVH did not say it was sin? It really is up to you. I will end my discussion with you here since you are more knowing that I in the understanding of God's word. God Bless.Originally posted by shade343:Again, your replies smacks of arrogance and pride. So what if you are a christian?
You called an act of love a sin. And worse, you justify it by correlating it to the scriptures which you do not even understand.
Lastly, I checked the ten commandements. None of it says "thou shall not commit an act of homosexuality".
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Homosexuality is not a mental illness. Mental illness is an illness.... you need medication. But homos don't need.
I believe that Homosexuality is by choice. Although I do not agree with their lifestyle and life choice, I have no right to judge them. -
And when did homosexuality become a mental illness? But you support the topic starter and condemn homosexuality nevertheless. Are you God?Originally posted by Icemoon:Huh .. when did believing in another religion become a mental illness?
I think if you have nothing constructive to say, then please shut up. You are looking like a fool now.
I think Christians are an easy target for you people to parade your self righteous bigotry and, may I add, misguided notion.
Cannot hood Islam so come and hood Christians ah?
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YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO JUDGE THEM? I agree.Originally posted by Honeybunz:Homosexuality is not a mental illness. Mental illness is an illness.... you need medication. But homos don't need.
I believe that Homosexuality is by choice. Although I do not agree with their lifestyle and life choice, I have no right to judge them. -
and just who needs your approval or otherwise??? duh!Originally posted by casino_king:YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO JUDGE THEM? I agree. -
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Originally posted by klydeer:Thanks for the offer.
But personally, i have found what is required of me.
So nevermind.
Blessings.
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when did i say homosexuality is a mental illness?Originally posted by casino_king:And when did homosexuality become a mental illness? But you support the topic starter and condemn homosexuality nevertheless. Are you God?
you like to put words into my mouth, don't you? -
what so ambiguous? If you want to know, the truth is all over you. YOu just need to seek it for yourself.Originally posted by laoda99:ambiguity....... -
What I said was: "But you support the topic starter and condemn homosexuality nevertheless."Originally posted by Icemoon:when did i say homosexuality is a mental illness?
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So now I ask - if someone is able to keep the OT and NT, or keep the OT, then how?
In the end, u still didn't manage to answer the question why does christians condemn people who r homos yet do not do anything to people who eat other forms of seafood Your answer is still saying tat christian pick and choose the laws they like and reject the others. If u felt tat tis is completely okie, tat christians can choose watever they like to believe, then u r right, I have nothing left to say. In tat case I think christians really have a very weak argument against homosexuality because they just choose to reject them but blaming it all on god.The ironic part....they want Christians to see it their way....tat homosexuality is not a sin and the bible is a erronous book compiled by men....and tat's double standards....
I have already stated my stand tat in the thread here, christians only use the bible as their defence for being homophobic. No matter wat evidence is presented they will just go about their circular arguments and nothing really change. The only way is to use doctrine against doctrine. Wat I believe is not important, the thing tat matter is christians believe the bible. I am just trying to list down why I think the bible is "un followable"
the funny thing is...some of them keep on quoting scriptures from the bible after they blast christians/bible......selectivei don't expect them to do anything, it is what God expects and that is between them and God
So in tat case if homos come to the church, u will not do anything to them, including "counselling", "condemn", "discriminate", "advise" and do not enforce them to live a life of calibracy ? Tis is really between god and him and the others should really just not poke their nose in and give their own judgement. -
Your logic is easy to debunk... many things in the old was "superseeded" by the new.... unless you can show that "homosexuality" was "superseeded."
My point is that no matter what; nobody is called to judge and nobody can judge or they are behaving like they are God which is in itself a bigger abomination and self defeating. Judge not that you not be judged. Jesus said that what you put in your mouth is never as important as what comes out of it. Christians can claim that they are condenming homosexuality but not homosexuals all they want; it is just pure nonsense and totally illogical statement to make. By condenming homosexuality, they are condenming the people who indulges in the act. -
don't know if u r talking about me but eating seafood is also not superseeded nor women wearing veils is superseeded. They r all not followed too.
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sometimes it is implied. Like the genocide that you read about in the old. How can genocide be compatible with "Love Thy Neighbour As Thyself?"
Some of the things recorded in the bible are some people's impressions of what God was telling them or what they think God was telling them. Just because it is recorded in the Bible does not mean that their impression cannot be wrong. How you read the Bible is to read it together with what God is saying to you right here right now.
unfortunately, Christians do not believe that God can speak to them. They prefer dogma and refuse to be born again. Jesus would not have said "Born Again" a traumatic term and concept, if He could use an easier term. -
Like the genocide that you read about in the old. How can genocide be compatible with "Love Thy Neighbour As Thyself?"
So u r saying tat christian should not refer to the bible and the content of all of it is wrong ? The thing about "Love thy Neighbour as Thyself" may be the wrong one while the genocide is the right one. They everyone forms their own cult and believe wat they think they believe ? If they experience god telling them to kill others they follow it ?
Some of the things recorded in the bible are some people's impressions of what God was telling them or what they think God was telling them. Just because it is recorded in the Bible does not mean that their impression cannot be wrong. How you read the Bible is to read it together with what God is saying to you right here right now.unfortunately, Christians do not believe that God can speak to them. They prefer dogma and refuse to be born again. Jesus would not have said "Born Again" a traumatic term and concept, if He could use an easier term.
If the bible is wrong, how do u know the term "born again" is right ? It may be people's impression of wat god is telling them or wat they think god was telling them. Just because it is recorded in the Bible does not mean that their impression cannot be wrong. -
There is no right and wrong! There is only "relationship" with God. God is a spirit and to have a relationship with a spirit, you must be born of the spirit.
There is only one God. You cannot go wrong.
Matthew 7 WEB
1 "Don't judge, so that you won't be judged.
2 For with whatever judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with whatever measure you measure, it will be measured to you.
3 Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but don't consider the beam that is in your own eye?
4 Or how will you tell your brother,'Let me remove the speck from your eye;' and behold, the beam is in your own eye?
5 You hypocrite! First remove the beam out of your own eye, and then you can see clearly to remove the speck out of your brother's eye.
6 "Don't give that which is holy to the dogs, neither throw your pearls before the pigs, lest perhaps they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.
7 "Ask, and it will be given you. Seek, and you will find. Knock, and it will be opened for you.
8 For everyone who asks receives. He who seeks finds. To him who knocks it will be opened.
9 Or who is there among you, who, if his son asks him for bread, will give him a stone?
10 Or if he asks for a fish, who will give him a serpent?
11 If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask him!
Homosexuality is a mental illness?Matthew 7:5 You hypocrite! -
The hypocrite part is not directed as you. You are a sincere person inspite of your unbelief.
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There is no right and wrong! There is only "relationship"; with God.
How do u know tis is god, not alien or buddha or hindu deity or even satan or even yourself ? Why doesn't god have relationship with everyone to save the trouble ? -
There is only One God.Originally posted by stupidissmart:How do u know tis is god, not alien or buddha or hindu deity or even satan or even yourself ? Why doesn't god have relationship with everyone to save the trouble ?
Mark 12:28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that He had answered them well, asked Him, Which is the first commandment of all?
29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
32 And the scribe said unto Him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but He:
33 And to love Him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love his neighbour as himself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices.
34 And when Jesus saw that he answered discreetly, He said unto him, Thou art not far from the kingdom of God. And no man after that durst ask him any question.
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There is only One God.Originally posted by stupidissmart:How do u know tis is god, not alien or buddha or hindu deity or even satan or even yourself ? Why doesn't god have relationship with everyone to save the trouble ?
Mark 12:28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that He had answered them well, asked Him, Which is the first commandment of all?
29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but He:
33 And to love Him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love his neighbour as himself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices.
34 And when Jesus saw that he answered discreetly, he said unto him, Thou art not far from the kingdom of God. And no man after that durst ask him any question.
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of course i am blind - blinded at times to the many wonders of God which i cannot see working in my life, His Grace in many a times. How about yourself ? Or is it even when your eyes are dug out - you still insist that you can see like the Pharisee ?Originally posted by casino_king:You are so blind. In speaking out against homosexuality, you have condemned homosexuality. You have given yourself the power to condemn homosexuality. Homosexuality is a perversion in that the sex does not lead to pregnancy. Does that mean that is it automatically a sin with the connotations of Judgement and Hell fire?
How you swayed with words ! from "condemnation", you go to "speaking out"...whats next ? if you "see" this thread, u are condemning ?
ok. go to the streets or to your "gay friends" and say onto them - "Hey, what you doing is a perversion leh....does not lead to pregnancy...." - i wonder how they would respond ? so that is your love to them ?
The act of homosexuality is forbidden under God's righteousness and commandments because it will cause one to be griefed by it - as how i was given understanding. this is due to the experience of weeping with a friend who is tormented by what she feels - as "unclean" and desired so much to let go but couldnt. it is not for me to do anything about it but to provide words of encouragement and pray with her....for i cannot understand what she is going through. Only God knows, only she herself can make a choice and battle for that choice.
For me, i totally believe in the sanctity of marriage as would Christ advised - between a man and a woman - be it at the emotional, spiritual or physical aspects of it - though have been a difficult journey in the beginning, but now with much happiness and fulfilment.