Homosexuality is a mental illness.
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a) ok what now you are ratings 2IC...Originally posted by laurence82:from topic starter
two things
a) For starting controversial topics like this, mutter some untruths and disappears
b) For ranting some random nonsensicals about Buddhist values
b) ok lah, this one no comment...
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Originally posted by casino_king:
To try to save Buddhist souls I have to go there and to try to save "christian" souls I have to be here....
Originally posted by casino_king:
hmmmmm......
but ultimately only God can save... we are only witnesses..... 
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i dont wantOriginally posted by breytonhartge:a) ok what now you are ratings 2IC...
b) ok lah, this one no comment...
some people in here i am ok with, but overall i dont want to be associated with EH -
never lah! though I have not been insideOriginally posted by laurence82:Genting got charge or ot? -
yeap, i see what you sawOriginally posted by Chin Eng:hmmmmm...... 
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hahaha... the post:Originally posted by Chin Eng:hmmmmm......
"Originally posted by casino_king:
but ultimately only God can save... we are only witnesses..... Mr. Green"
was in anticipation of judgemental people like yourself..... always ever ready to condemn people like when condemning the homosexuals. -
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me three...Originally posted by laurence82:yeap, i see what you saw -
caught at least 2 fishes in one basket.
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looks like at least 3...God is good.
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sure or not....Originally posted by Chin Eng:never lah! though I have not been inside -
if you had read my exchanges with pro-gay folks, you will find that I do not condemn homosexuals.... you will also find that I don't really give a sh-it about what one does with their lifes, you will also find that no where have I said that I condemn homosexuals.Originally posted by casino_king:was in anticipation of judgemental people like yourself..... alwasy ever ready to condemn people like condemning the homosexuals.
my only issue are with people who twist scripture to their own liking....Originally posted by casino_king:
To try to save Buddhist souls I have to go there and to try to save "christian" souls I have to be here.... Originally posted by casino_king:
hmmmmm......
but ultimately only God can save... we are only witnesses..... nothing to anticipate lah.... you will try to save, but only God can save..... hmmmmmm... -
1)All creatures in nature wants to procreate and nature have it that human males cannot procreate with another human male. And the same goes for women.Originally posted by vince69:CK,
allow me to point this to you.
1) being born blind here is a refering to a birth defect, unless you are saying homosexual is also a birth defect.
2) blindness here is refering to the effect of sin, not a sin itself, that is why the question put forth by the disciple can also be phrase as, what is the reason he is born blind? is it because he had sinned or his parent had sinned? in other words, they are saying, is it because he had sinned or his parents had sinned, that's why God cursed him with blindness?
Homosexuality in the Bible is straight clear cut refer to as an act of abomination and not an after effect of sin.
comments on your ans 2,3
yes, none of us are guiltless, and all of us fell one time or another.
yes, we do not and cannot pass judgement on another, this is God's job not ours.
no comment on ans4
When an animal(Supporsedly we humans are animals too. If you should disagree you have to answer to millions of women who are using it as a fact in their fight for female dominion of the world) do not wants to procreate, it loses its instinct to survive. Survival means to ensure that our genes or bloodline live to see another generation. And another generation, and then another and so on.
So it is technically correct to say that they are in some ways, a defect. Failed products of evolution. (Maybe caused by pollution in the air caused by industrailism?)
2)Define what's not a sin. If we as perfectly straight human beings give birth to sons who grow up and become gays bringing home another men who is just as hairy and have sex with him in the apartment we paid for? Either we as parents have sinned greatly or we need to solve this homosexuality issue.
The fact that homosexuals have prospered to a big circle in today's soceity is not because they are the rightful way of life that deserve its place in soceity, it is because of people who spoke up for homosexuals and fought hard for them to have their place in our society. Self righteous persons. I seen too much of these people cried and comtemplated suicide when the homosexuals they sympathised with turns out to be their sons. Most of the time when people speak up they aren't using their brains. They keep thinking it won't happen to them and that these few minority won't procreate, so they think it is their responsibility to create a nice quiet place in society to let them reside in.
To those people i must say, guess what dood? They expanded. Not through nature but through homosexual propaganda. No more is what i say.
So while it is not a sin to be homosexual, it is a sin to cordone them and let them grow bigger in our society.
3)If we cannot pass judgement on other people? How come people are judged and trialled(sp?) for murder? Why didn't you let murderers have their place in society as well? Surely they are just misunderstood people. Having said that i can imagine one day blogs will be filled with people who think that murderers are actually nice, misunderstood people and the world will one day fight hard to let murderers have a nice quiet place in society to call their own.
My view is everyone judges everyone. [b]AND THAT IS REALITY FOR YOU CAKE EATING PEOPLE[/B]. Everybody judges everybody. I am straight and i am constantly being scrutinised and judged for everything i do. Hell i get judged for writing this post. S how come homosexuals should enjoy the privillegdes of not being judged? Is homosexuality better then being straight? This my friend is clearly a homosexual propaganda and you are caught in it. -
sure...... I once lost a grand sum of maybe $5 in Vegas once on a jackpot. Never been tempted to gamble....Originally posted by breytonhartge:sure or not.... -
Just like blindness, homosexuality is "outside" the norm.Originally posted by vince69:CK,
allow me to point this to you.
1) being born blind here is a refering to a birth defect, unless you are saying homosexual is also a birth defect.
2) blindness here is refering to the effect of sin, not a sin itself, that is why the question put forth by the disciple can also be phrase as, what is the reason he is born blind? is it because he had sinned or his parent had sinned? in other words, they are saying, is it because he had sinned or his parents had sinned, that's why God cursed him with blindness?
Homosexuality in the Bible is straight clear cut refer to as an act of abomination and not an after effect of sin.
comments on your ans 2,3
yes, none of us are guiltless, and all of us fell one time or another.
yes, we do not and cannot pass judgement on another, this is God's job not ours.
no comment on ans4
Furthermore it is not just "consequences of sin" but sin itself according to the beliefs of the Jews. I am sure that you can find the references to "unclean" things that must not not brought into the Jewish temples. Just like lepers. -
try to save by witnessing.... be more honest with yourself lah....Originally posted by Chin Eng:hmmmmm...... nothing to anticipate lah.... you will try to save, but only God can save..... hmmmmmm... -
Originally posted by Chin Eng:
i have never had the bug, but have to say that i have been inside...
[b]sure...... I once lost a grand sum of maybe $5 in Vegas once on a jackpot. Never been tempted to gamble....[/b]
when i was younger and not a believer, i once put 25 cents into a machine in vegas and won $300... -
Originally posted by SaintDL:
You are most welcomed to have your own beliefs but once you start to impose those beliefs on others, then you are trying to be God. the consequence is like you said; if your own child is homo, you will die. You see, your judging has boomerang onto yourself. Your child will continue happily to be gay but you have killed yourself.
I have to agree wholeheartedly. Homosexuality is an illness. All living things in the world of Nature wants to reproduce to ensure the survival of its bloodline and species.
It is fair to say that homosexuals are doomed by the laws of nature to live their lives knowing their bloodline ends with them. It is also a known fact that homo sexuals married women for the sake of having children to fulfill their instinct or procreation. True, these women barely suffered because their gay husbands are more in tuned to the women's thinking and know what women wants. But is it fair? Is it [b]natural?
It is true that it is due to certain mutations of the genes that some men and women are borned to be attracted to the same sex. So why is it not an illness?
Because psychologist haven't say it is? In case you didn't know alot of lawyers and doctors and other white collar are homosexuals. It might be due to the fact that they do not want to be viewed as a 'patient' themselves and want to create a place in society where they can be in.
Anyways i think you people should not flame people who do not like homosexuals too much. Not everyone can accept it. I mean if i raise my son up and he sleeps with men i think i would have died just like that knowing that for a fact. Sadly no matter how much we say there will be people who love to act as though they are the avatars or freedom and fairness try to speak up for the homosexuals.
Let's see how they deal with it when their sons bring boyfriends back home and have long sweaty romps in their house.[/b][/b] -
random sampling..... works sometime. Will definitely do that in Vegas in December.... if I hit jackpot I buy everyone in EH beer.Originally posted by breytonhartge:i have never had the bug, but have to say that i have been inside...
when i was younger and not a believer, i once put 25 cents into a machine in vegas and won $300... -
here's where I have problem with your language.Originally posted by casino_king:try to save by witnessing.... be more honest with yourself lah....
I never try to save because only God can save. I can only try to witness.
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I have to disagree with you about the blindness part. Blindness couild be caused by accidents. We should not treat them as outside the norm. Many people suffer that as a result of their job/helping other people in emergency or other desperate situations.Originally posted by casino_king:Just like blindness, homosexuality is "outside" the norm.
Furthermore it is not just "consequences of sin" but sin itself according to the beliefs of the Jews. I am sure that you can find the references to "unclean" things that must not not brought into the Jewish temples. Just like lepers.
Ray Charles is blind but he produces good music. Let us not discriminate the blind. If we must, direct it on the gays -
Just as we do not discriminate against the blind, we do not discriminate against the gays.Originally posted by SaintDL:I have to disagree with you about the blindness part. Blindness couild be caused by accidents. We should not treat them as outside the norm. Many people suffer that as a result of their job/helping other people in emergency or other desperate situations.
Ray Charles is blind but he produces good music. Let us not discriminate the blind. If we must, direct it on the gays -
Hmm so i am flamed for advertising my style of living? Then what do you make of those homosexuals who try to advertise their way of living to the young. Most of them around 15 years old where they are still young and confused.Originally posted by casino_king:You are most welcomed to have your own beliefs but once you start to impose those beliefs on others, then you are trying to be God. the consequence is like you said; if your own child is homo, you will die. You see, your judging has boomerang onto yourself. Your child will continue happily to be gay but you have killed yourself.
Many gays i know of turned homosexuals at the age. Often it is when they hang out with friends who are gays and often talked about how good it is to be gay.
And see? You are trying to get back at me by saying my kid will become gay. How can someone who believe in homosexuality do that? But oh dear for the love of god i do hope it doesnt comes to that lol. -
ok you are on...Originally posted by Chin Eng:random sampling..... works sometime. Will definitely do that in Vegas in December.... if I hit jackpot I buy everyone in EH beer. -
yay ! Kilkeney on tap please !Originally posted by Chin Eng:random sampling..... works sometime. Will definitely do that in Vegas in December.... if I hit jackpot I buy everyone in EH beer. 