two school of thoughts that I know (maybe there is more I may not know)Originally posted by ben1xy:since we r on this topic.. let's take this hypothetical situation
if let's say a tribe in a remote place in the inner city of china has nv heard of the gospel and thus, nv invited Jesus or professed Him as their saviour. What would become of this person when he leaves this world?
anyway.. yah.. i'm also waiting for macross's answer too
Roman 1: 18-202) they will be judge according to their deeds (ie. conscience)
18The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
Roman 2: 12-16
12All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law. 13For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God's sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous. 14(Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law, 15since they show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts now accusing, now even defending them.) 16This will take place on the day when God will judge men's secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.
is there a difference like .. as in certain denomination will believe in 1 .. another denomination will believe in 2? or is it up to individuals?Originally posted by vince69:
think up to individuals....Originally posted by ben1xy:is there a difference like .. as in certain denomination will believe in 1 .. another denomination will believe in 2? or is it up to individuals?
what do you mean "all will know him"? Quite a strong statement to make.Originally posted by laoda99:think up to individuals....
my gf always say all will know him and profess his name as said in the bible
where is the novelty?Originally posted by laoda99:actually should go swimming pool...like what NCC did....book whole swimming pool.....not tat yucky/salty...
it is a polluted long kang!Originally posted by Icemoon:The Singapore River is the river of life for Singapore.
It will be very symbolic to hold baptism there.
hmmm....mebbe u help me search whether got verses in the bible pertaining to this....or u can ask my gf......Originally posted by Icemoon:what do you mean "all will know him"? Quite a strong statement to make.
Hot springsOriginally posted by Icemoon:where is the novelty?
got any church use the Singapore River? lol
Got hot springs there meh?Originally posted by laurence82:Hot springs
Sembawang, Bukit Gombak etc
there is a hot spring in sembawang.Originally posted by laoda99:Got hot springs there meh?
Shit! I lost forty bucks...yesterday nite fell asleep.
To be saved, one must be baptised.Originally posted by laoda99:can sgmacross say something abt this?
u sure???Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:To be saved, one must be baptised.
However, baptism is not restricted to water alone. Baptism by desire or by blood is possible.
Those who believe in Christ but cannot be baptised before they die count as Baptisms of Desire.Originally posted by laoda99:u sure???
got baptism of fire?Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:Those who believe in Christ but cannot be baptised before they die count as Baptisms of Desire.
Those who believe in Christ, but cannot be baptised before they are martyred are baptised in Blood.
got, some charismatic loves to use this one... they refer to this the day of pentacost, but they use this to prove that everyone must received this as a sign of having the Holy Spirit in them by speaking in tongue.Originally posted by Icemoon:got baptism of fire?
No.Originally posted by Icemoon:got baptism of fire?
chey .. I thought they expect the Father to say "This is my elect, whom I'm well pleased".Originally posted by vince69:got, some charismatic loves to use this one... they refer to this the day of pentacost, but they use this to prove that everyone must received this as a sign of having the Holy Spirit in them by speaking in tongue.
What is Sprit Baptism? What are the signs of such a baptism?Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:No.
On a side note, the so-called 'Sprit Baptism' is dubious, because all Baptisms are done in the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.
Damned if I know.Originally posted by Icemoon:What is Sprit Baptism? What are the signs of such a baptism?
darn... baptism of the Holy Spirit I heard before, Spirit Baptism nope.Originally posted by Icemoon:What is Sprit Baptism? What are the signs of such a baptism?
hah, ill stick out my tongue to those who insist that one must have tongues to be saved.Originally posted by vince69:got, some charismatic loves to use this one... they refer to this the day of pentacost, but they use this to prove that everyone must received this as a sign of having the Holy Spirit in them by speaking in tongue.
hygiene my friend, must remember to keep personal hygiene.Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:hah, ill stick out my tongue to those who insist that one must have tongues to be saved.
everybody can speak tongues....even this guyOriginally posted by vince69:hygiene my friend, must remember to keep personal hygiene.
for those who may not understand this, personally, I feel the speaking in tongues should be voluntary not manditory and orderly worship should still be kept.
yah loh, so this guy nothing special about him lohOriginally posted by laoda99:everybody can speak tongues....even this guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zHqKI4X8bA&search=charismatic