american bishop believes homosexuality is not a sin
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i'm waiting for your explanation of the phrase "to be condemned".Originally posted by casino_king:Like I said, it refers to people who have put themselves under the LAW (see the context, Jesus healed on a Sabbath and they were seething; ) so Jesus told them clearly that they were condemned people... condemned by the LAW
Jesus came to save all these condemned people, not to condemn them, they were already condemned by the LAW.
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Put it this way, anybody... not just the homo or prostitute... Paul would have said:Originally posted by Icemoon:9Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
you are screwed, I tell you. There is no way you can carry on this argument of yours.
put it this way .. Apostle Paul's reaction upon seeing the prostitute would be - "unless you repent, you will not inherit the kingdom of God".
Unless you be born again, be born of spirit, you are already dead spiritually... it is matter of time that your temporal flesh goes too... -
Put it this way, anybody... not just the homo or prostitute... Paul would have said:Originally posted by Icemoon:9Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
you are screwed, I tell you. There is no way you can carry on this argument of yours.
put it this way .. Apostle Paul's reaction upon seeing the prostitute would be - "unless you repent, you will not inherit the kingdom of God".
Unless you be born again, be born of spirit, you are already dead spiritually... it is matter of time that your temporal flesh goes too... -
na bei .. so the Apostle Paul really did condemn people!Originally posted by casino_king:Put it this way, anybody... not just the homo or prostitute... Paul would have said:
Unless you be born again, be born of spirit, you are already dead spiritually... it is matter of time that your temporal flesh goes too...
u dun believe this is condemning?
you tell SIS "YOU ARE ALREADY DEAD SPIRITUALLY" .. see whether he KPKB or not? -
Condemn dead people?Originally posted by Icemoon:na bei .. so the Apostle Paul really did condemn people!
u dun believe this is condemning?
you tell SIS "YOU ARE ALREADY DEAD SPIRITUALLY" .. see whether he KPKB or not?
Jesus came to save condemned people and did not come to condemn them. You can condemn people all you want... by condemning them, you condemn yourself. -
see .. they are alive but you say they are dead. If this is not condemning, then what is it?Originally posted by casino_king:Condemn dead people?
Jesus came to save condemned people and did not come to condemn them. You can condemn people all you want... by condemning them, you condemn yourself.
Why will Christians want to condemn people? Aren't they supposed to spread the gospel so that even the most evil person have a chance at salvation? -
We are all dead but by the Grace of God. Where is the condemnation?Originally posted by Icemoon:see .. they are alive but you say they are dead. If this is not condemning, then what is it?
Why will Christians want to condemn people? Aren't they supposed to spread the gospel so that even the most evil person have a chance at salvation? -
'cos they are alive and kicking but you say they are dead.Originally posted by casino_king:We are all dead but by the Grace of God. Where is the condemnation? -
Merry Meet Iveco Potty,Originally posted by iveco:I don't like Dark Arts, unlike the mods @ the wizarding forum.
There are almost no Slytherin tendencies in me. In fact, the Sorting Hat quiz classified me as Hufflepuff.
Women are capable of giving life, therefore should be revered more.
In fact, their Chief Wizard has spoken, and I am on his side for now.
Adding on, it is known that Christianity was not the original religion of Europe. Yet the papacy wants the continent to return to its "Christian roots".
How do you define Dark Arts? Don't exert your authority in what you don't know, hufflepuss??? You are more likely be associate with POWERPUFF GURLS!
I am never on anyone side, kindly do not attempt to associate with me in any ways. I detest such action, its repulsive!
Blessed Be,
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Merry Meet Iveco Potty,Originally posted by iveco:The main mod @ the wizard's forum reminds me of Snape. His loyalty to the Wiccan Rede is as suspect as the Snape's loyalty to Dumbledore.
What kind of mod will call down curses on those who disagree with him?
I have addressd this many times, you need not be a Wiccan to be a Witch in anyway. Your perspective is none of my concern, assumption is the Root of All Evil. The Evil in you in evident for all to see.
In my opinon you are already Accursed in the way that there is no need for anyone to do much. Look at your pathetic life, Its a Sin of Mankind to have such a defective specimen of Homo Sapien taking up the limited space in this Earth, Your existence in this Realm may be a Mistake in the first place, The only remedy perhaps is to be blessed with a pathetic life like yours. Kindly do not associate yourself with Catholic, you are tainted & unworthy of any religion. Go live in your fairytales, this is a harsh world, perhaps ending your pathetic life is the only option. Oh well its your choice. This is only a suggestion i chose to speak sin it may be unspoken & written by many in here. Thank you for your redundant input.
Blessed Be,
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Alive in the flesh...Originally posted by Icemoon:'cos they are alive and kicking but you say they are dead. -
hu cares alive in wad, the thing is uve condemned them to be dead!<---now thats the point!! look!!!Originally posted by casino_king:Alive in the flesh... -
Condemn dead people? Jesus came to save all these dead people... you are not to condemn them... it is a statement of fact, not a condemnation... that they are only alive in the flesh.Originally posted by davidche:hu cares alive in wad, the thing is uve condemned them to be dead!<---now thats the point!! look!!!
It is like calling African Americans BLACKS... how is that wrong? They are black!
Like I said, you want to condemn those people, the condemnation falls on you, that is all, a statement of fact. -
all these exchanges reminded me of Job and his three friends.
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ure condemning others to be condeming!! plz explain urself out IF YOU CANOriginally posted by casino_king:So stop scaring yourself with evil thoughts and do not condemn anybody just as God does not condemn you and is in fact ready and able to give you eternal life. -
so u mean that if its true wad ur saying u can "condemn"? ok then, can i say that u have sinned? cos everyone sins rite?Originally posted by casino_king:Condemn dead people? Jesus came to save all these dead people... you are not to condemn them... it is a statement of fact, not a condemnation... that they are only alive in the flesh.
It is like calling African Americans BLACKS... how is that wrong? They are black!
Like I said, you want to condemn those people, the condemnation falls on you, that is all, a statement of fact. -
Originally posted by casino_king:
I am quoting CK's post here, people, pls read carefully, CK is simply pointing that these people that do not have Christ (ie. not born again in the Spirit) is already spiritually dead (although we normally refer to this as spiritual bankrupted, the meaning is the same), he is simply pointing out the reality of their situation, this is different from condemning people.
Put it this way, anybody... not just the homo or prostitute... Paul would have said:
Unless you be born again, be born of spirit, you are already dead spiritually... it is matter of time that your temporal flesh goes too... -
You condemn me because I have sin?Originally posted by davidche:so u mean that if its true wad ur saying u can "condemn"? ok then, can i say that u have sinned? cos everyone sins rite? You still do not get it do you? You just condemned yourself, not me. -
Now that you have condemned yourself, what are you going to do about it?
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I am gonna cryOriginally posted by casino_king:Now that you have condemned yourself, what are you going to do about it?
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lol .. you think you are Murong Fu with his "Shifting constellations and changing stars"?Originally posted by casino_king:You condemn me because I have sin? You still do not get it do you? You just condemned yourself, not me.
or the Great Qiankun Skills .. -
Originally posted by Icemoon:lol .. you think you are Murong Fu with his "Shifting constellations and changing stars"?
or the Great Qiankun Skills .. I am giving the contents of the secret manual... but you insist on condemning yourself, I am powerless to stop you -
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Originally posted by casino_king:
Condemn dead people? Jesus came to save all these dead people... you are not to condemn them... it is a statement of fact, not a condemnation... that they are only alive in the flesh.
It is like calling African Americans BLACKS... how is that wrong? They are black!
Like I said, you want to condemn those people, the condemnation falls on you, that is all, a statement of fact.
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so u mean that if its true wad ur saying u can "condemn"? ok then, can i say that u have sinned? cos everyone sins rite? plz answer
so its a truth that u sin, so i say that u sin its the same as calling North Americans r black. so y did u say that im condemning myself?? -
ure condemning others to be condeming!! plz explain urself out IF YOU CAN
looks like u cant.
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How did you come to the conclusion that I had sinned? By that same token, you had condemned yourself. Nothing to do with me! Don't drag me in.