Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:never attend CHC or NCC to seek God...unless u wan to be entertained.
hmm same can be said about the rc church...: ) or any church for that matter...
Originally posted by breytonhartge:hmm same can be said about the rc church...: ) or any church for that matter...
I beg to differ...
Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:I beg to differ...
I know you do...: )
City Harvest Church 20th Birthday! happy bdae CHC!!
Originally posted by breytonhartge:I know you do...: )
at long last we agreed on something :)
Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:at long last we agreed on something :)
errr.. knowing that you disagree with me does not mean that I agree with you... ; )
Originally posted by breytonhartge:hmm same can be said about the rc church...: ) or any church for that matter...
Entertainment in the RC church? Really curious, how so?
Originally posted by Servant:Entertainment in the RC church? Really curious, how so?
just as there are charismatic churches, the rc's also have them... plus just sit outside novena and watch the spectacle unfold every service... : ) just to name one...: )
Originally posted by Shao Wei:City Harvest Church 20th Birthday! happy bdae CHC!!
My ex church more than 115 years old.
Originally posted by breytonhartge:errr.. knowing that you disagree with me does not mean that I agree with you... ; )
It can also be said...u agreed to disagree wif me :)
Originally posted by breytonhartge:just as there are charismatic churches, the rc's also have them... plus just sit outside novena and watch the spectacle unfold every service... : ) just to name one...: )
Misguided apparently by man it seems...
CHC is always on the look out for people to join who abled to buy or change mobile twice per year,a degree or master hold, holding manager position, abled to go holiday or short trips every 3 or 4 months ,drive those big car. If not target small children or those sec. school kids then brain wash them...sigh.
Originally posted by breytonhartge:just as there are charismatic churches, the rc's also have them... plus just sit outside novena and watch the spectacle unfold every service... : ) just to name one...: )
Yes, charismatic services are one of the many forms of worship in the RC Church, but it's hardly the norm especially when the mass is the highest form of worship.
And since when did solemn and meditative worship become a spectacle?? Have you really been to a Novena or to a mass?
Originally posted by Servant:Yes, charismatic services are one of the many forms of worship in the RC Church, but it's hardly the norm especially when the mass is the highest form of worship.
And since when did solemn and meditative worship become a spectacle?? Have you really been to a Novena or to a mass?
you obviously don't know my history... meditative and solemn worship becomes a spectable when it leads one away from the G_d of the bible. I leave that for you to ponder.
Originally posted by breytonhartge:you obviously don't know my history... meditative and solemn worship becomes a spectable when it leads one away from the G_d of the bible. I leave that for you to ponder.
Yep, sounds like you've not been to a Mass or Novena. Am really curious to know which part of either leads people away from God.
i wnt 2 c de end of chc empire...aftr botak case...
I believe CHC will go on for eternity, and till the end of the earth
Originally posted by Aeris1974:I believe CHC will go on for eternity, and till the end of the earth
their so call transparent accounting is just for show to the public that they are clean. But deep down there a per-audit system is carry out to black out the loop hole of taking money from the church goers into their pocket. Before the real and actual auditing begin done on them. same for NCC.
eg: if there is a charity and the money from the donator is about $40k (not on paper). they make sure it the account will fit what they advertise to the public as $30k(only on paper.)
So what happen to the rest of it ($10k)? Went into their pocket the where the major portion of it end up with founder of the church buying landed property ,branded items, luxury holiday in overseas at 6 stars hotel or payment for the new car.
Hi folks!!! gd evening, i happen to see this topic and would like to give my comments on Church in Singapore. Basically they only target a few groups of people to join and believe in god . First you must be very english educated and has low or swallow understanding of your own original roots and cultures. Your mother toungue is weak. As bible teaching target those and spread upon easily in english. Second type of Christain.. those old and elderly... being weak at heart at thier twitlight zone, they found god via vaRious dialects.
Ok, let see. alot of young christain are friendly... lovely... and have great courage.. because they sing and shout god name loud loud in any public area and they feel proud... IS THIS THE WAY TO PRAISE GOD OR TO CREATE MORE PUBLICITY IN FAVOR TO GAIN MORE PEOPLE ATTENTION. Most Christain girl are more erm...erm... eh... easy to get and are vuluneerable to F. Ons. Don't ask me why out of 10 girl i hunted down 6 are Christain. Second they like to dress nice nice and they mind how they look outwardly... they like to package them till as if christain is meant for those rich and famous. Look back christain back in those ancient days they are pure and could endure sufferings. Their heart, soul mind can really communicate with god.. and god really answer them. When any religion is in relation to alot of money matter involve... i have no comments. YOU SEE FOR YOURSELF. I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED IN MY OTHER POST N GOD SAYING THAT IT'S HUMAN WHOM MISINTERPRET GOD.
I do not know they still build disco and bar.... too this is too much......and acting more and more stupid. it had become from singapore youth club to nightspot businese under the name of god... ''god'' funds.. i think sooner or later baba will go pull them down for his own pocket. If these people can really exercise spiritually any power from god to and fro... then there are only 1 possibility.. Using Satan in disguise. After so many stupid doing plus, wrong imparting of skills ... do you think these lovely short skirt young hip hop ladies whom are good at playing games and singing, with a cross neckalace on their neck... have ability to exercise anything spiritual in context with god?.... I HAVE NO COMMENTS.
If i go church i respect god but not god's present follower... i go there to see got pretty girls or not that's all.. if fate allows, i shall enlighten those who.....with me thanks i see all these singing playing games as a joke... like youth club..it had reduce from a holy religion to only like school of thoughts when practice as such occurs... play sing.. dance... be happy... god love us.. and will be with us..oh if that's easy how great it is!!!
they are powerless... no power at all when praying... can't ward off spirits at time too...
Originally posted by Daneikufang:Hi folks!!! gd evening, i happen to see this topic and would like to give my comments on Church in Singapore. Basically they only target a few groups of people to join and believe in god . First you must be very english educated and has low or swallow understanding of your own original roots and cultures. Your mother toungue is weak. As bible teaching target those and spread upon easily in english. Second type of Christain.. those old and elderly... being weak at heart at thier twitlight zone, they found god via vaRious dialects.
Ok, let see. alot of young christain are friendly... lovely... and have great courage.. because they sing and shout god name loud loud in any public area and they feel proud... IS THIS THE WAY TO PRAISE GOD OR TO CREATE MORE PUBLICITY IN FAVOR TO GAIN MORE PEOPLE ATTENTION. Most Christain girl are more erm...erm... eh... easy to get and are vuluneerable to F. Ons. Don't ask me why out of 10 girl i hunted down 6 are Christain. Second they like to dress nice nice and they mind how they look outwardly... they like to package them till as if christain is meant for those rich and famous. Look back christain back in those ancient days they are pure and could endure sufferings. Their heart, soul mind can really communicate with god.. and god really answer them. When any religion is in relation to alot of money matter involve... i have no comments. YOU SEE FOR YOURSELF. I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED IN MY OTHER POST N GOD SAYING THAT IT'S HUMAN WHOM MISINTERPRET GOD.
I do not know they still build disco and bar.... too this is too much......and acting more and more stupid. it had become from singapore youth club to nightspot businese under the name of god... ''god'' funds.. i think sooner or later baba will go pull them down for his own pocket. If these people can really exercise spiritually any power from god to and fro... then there are only 1 possibility.. Using Satan in disguise. After so many stupid doing plus, wrong imparting of skills ... do you think these lovely short skirt young hip hop ladies whom are good at playing games and singing, with a cross neckalace on their neck... have ability to exercise anything spiritual in context with god?.... I HAVE NO COMMENTS.
well said...churches now are like the temple Jesus rebuked..
Stupid enough local naive people believe in anyway. wE tHE cityzan of this city always been taken in by anyone....the government... religion... when we realized anything wrong.. we curse and swear.. but in the first place why did we read up more and open our eyes big to see with our heart and think with our eyes.
Those who practice and are spreading religion currently, i mean any type of religion.. do not alter ,change, modify, the original style meaning of any religion... ''dancing to the tune of nowadays'' people trend and style.... this would spoilt and degenerate religion... I STAY PREFER THE ORIGINAL MOONCAKE AND ORIGINAL DUMPLING NOT THOSE FANICFUL MOOKCAKES OR DUMPLING EVOLVING OVER THE YEARS..... FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSE. THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE.... FOR FOOD YES... CHANGE OFIT MIGHT BE GOOD.. FOR RELIGION IF YOU CHANGE IT... YOU ARE A SINNER.
People should learn the hard way towards religion... not religion breaking down into simple form for simpleton to understand or accept AND ADOPT.. if you are simple and you expect you can understand the profoundness of any religion... think back again.. AM I BEING CONNED/?
Perhaps... going to church... see pretty girl... if can hook any of them.... do i need to pay a little 油香钱? hehe tian you xiang for god... :P any amount will do... � 缘