Originally posted by Happyinfo2:there you go again....since when did I said we don't need to advance science?
The fact is science cannot explain the origin of life which is God's creation....and that's a fact. A fact that you cannot accept and yet have no other explanations....
So where did the phrase "acts of god" came from? You tell me.....
Natural disaters is not man-made.....but man's action do play a part in causing them....and everything in nature is made by God. What's the problem?
You avoided many questions in the posts above and would be good if you answer them point to point.
if this is not creationist theory/theology, I dunno what is. from the answer you provide, you didnt say, your creationist theory origins of life which is god's creation did said it loud and clear. need I say any further when I say there you go yet again.
as for acts of god, I am saying the phrase, how the phrase came about. I dunno what you are babbling on and on about
Originally posted by Rooney9:if this is not creationist theory/theology, I dunno what is. from the answer you provide, you didnt say, your creationist theory origins of life which is god's creation did said it loud and clear. need I say any further when I say there you go yet again.
as for acts of god, I am saying the phrase, how the phrase came about. I dunno what you are babbling on and on about
There you go again.....avoiding in answering questions raised and diverting attention away from your inability to answer......
Yes, God created life and if you did not agree, it's ok. But don't bring in man-made big bang theory which is never going to be able to explain origin of life.
Yes, explain why you are "babbling" with the phrase of "acts of god" ?? I also dunno as you brought this up didn't you?
Try to answer the questions posted to you...
Originally posted by Happyinfo2:There you go again.....avoiding in answering questions raised and diverting attention away from your inability to answer......
Yes, God created life and if you did not agree, it's ok. But don't bring in man-made big bang theory which is never going to be able to explain origin of life.
Yes, explain why you are "babbling" with the phrase of "acts of god" ?? I also dunno as you brought this up didn't you?
Try to answer the questions posted to you...
then you implied that all the scientists in the world are blind to the fact that god created lifeforms?
no need you have already answered it, god is the creator. does it matter if I asked a billion questions, cos to you, god is the answer to our all questions.
Originally posted by Rooney9:then you implied that all the scientists in the world are blind to the fact that god created lifeforms?
there you go again.....simply cannot answer or prove your point logically.
since when did I said or implied that :"all the scientists in the world are blind to the fact that god created lifeforms" ? In fact, there are many scientists that are Christians and the Vatican do have their own on-going research with qualified scientist that are also believers in God.
That's is why I said you don't know what you are talking about and keep repeating your rubbish....If I were you, I will find out more about the faith, the Bible before I post....
Originally posted by Rooney9:
no need you have already answered it, god is the creator. does it matter if I asked a billion questions, cos to you, god is the answer to our all questions.
Ha...ha...ha.. it shows that you have no answer and this is the only way out for you....
and it's ok if you asked questions but you did not....you only make statements which are due to your lack of understanding of the faith. That's all.
Originally posted by Happyinfo2:Ha...ha...ha.. it shows that you have no answer and this is the only way out for you....
and it's ok if you asked questions but you did not....you only make statements which are due to your lack of understanding of the faith. That's all.
no need to say much, show hand and proof there is god, period.
but anyway I know what you are saying next, so you do not need to continue ![]()
Originally posted by Rooney9:no need to say much, show hand and proof there is god, period.
but anyway I know what you are saying next, so you do not need to continue
Yes no need to say anything to you since you don't even know what you talking about......Already shown you great proof that God exist......and yet you choose to remain "blind" and ignore them.....what can I do?
Great way to escape...... PERIOD! ![]()
Originally posted by Happyinfo2:Yes no need to say anything to you since you don't even know what you talking about......Already shown you great proof that God exist......and yet you choose to remain "blind" and ignore them.....what can I do?
Great way to escape...... PERIOD!
what proof? men doing good in the name of religion doesnt mean god exists. proof as in empirical evidence. if not as concurred by scientists. then why then scientists did not concur? you should be asking them this question. what a convenient way of deflecting that question when you have no proof.
if for reasons future generations believed there is a superman that existed and they erect his statue and do good for his sake, then does superman exists? we all know that superman only live in comics, cartoon and movies only.
Originally posted by Rooney9:what proof? men doing good in the name of religion doesnt mean god exists. proof as in empirical evidence. if not as concurred by scientists. then why then scientists did not concur? you should be asking them this question. what a convenient way of deflecting that question when you have no proof.
if for reasons future generations believed there is a superman that existed and they erect his statue and do good for his sake, then does superman exists? we all know that superman only live in comics, cartoon and movies only.
Eh.....I thought you said :"do not need to continue" ?
What empirical evidence have you given to us that God does not exist? NONE!
Can science explain the origin of life? NO....at best, they attempt to speculate.....
Yes, you are deflecting all my questions to you which you have no answers to...and also you have not been able to support what you said either about science or about God (all you said are rubbish because you are completely clueless about God).
God existed - History, facts and science all point to that. You simply choose to ignore.
And your superman example is out of place here as history, facts and science all tells us that it is a cartoon and comics created by man. Just like your big bang theory....and since you know that superman is created by man, you should look at your big bang theory in the same light....
Life is created by God.....and you will not be here if God does not exist.....I know you will says that you come from your mother.....period. Look beyond that boy and see further.....
"Men doing good in the name of religion" does mean God existed. If not,what do you think it means? BTW, have you found any atheist organisation doing the same?
A study shows that the benefits of religion hold up strongly, even for those who indulge in cigarette smoking. Smokers who rated religion as being very important to them were one-seventh as likely to have an abnormal blood-pressure reading as smokers who did not value religion.
Originally posted by Happyinfo2:What empirical evidence have you given to us that God does not exist? NONE!
Can science explain the origin of life? NO....at best, they attempt to speculate.....
God existed - History, facts and science all point to that. You simply choose to ignore.
And your superman example is out of place here as history, facts and science all tells us that it is a cartoon and comics created by man. Just like your big bang theory....and since you know that superman is created by man, you should look at your big bang theory in the same light....
you really can twist black into white eh based on your answers haha, esp the science that proof that god exists. I really rests my case dude.
Originally posted by Rooney9:you really can twist black into white eh based on your answers haha, esp the science that proof that god exists. I really rests my case dude.
You have no case in the first place ......and it is proven. And you even need to edit when quoting my reply (to leave out facts that you cannot face) How pathetic! I know this is the only way you can back out and I understand. No problem.
Originally posted by Happyinfo2:You have no case in the first place ......and it is proven. This is the only way you can back out and I understand. No problem.
proof that science has proof that god exists. quote me where the sources and in which journals or magazine that said that? as i said, you can turn a white into a black. anyone can say anything with no substantiation and evidence.
Originally posted by Rooney9:proof that science has proof that god exists. quote me where the sources and in which journals or magazine that said that? as i said, you can turn a white into a black. anyone can say anything with no substantiation and evidence.
there you go again......show us what science you have to prove that God does not exist? You have failed to showed us even ONE......NOTHING to support what you said.
There are plenty of facts and evidence to substantiate the existance of God. It is just that you choose to ignore them as I have said many times before....
Existance of God does not depend on any journals or magazines that are written by men which you said we should not believe isn't it ? Now you slap yourself again?
If sources in writting is what you after, then go read and learn more about the Bible which is written by man who are inspired by God and lead by the Holy Spirit. Not men's effort alone.....and perhaps you will then stop making statements as a result from being completely clueless about God.
well go watch national geographic and discovery channels more, esp the universe. the commentator uttered the universe is so complex and fascinating that this is not the work of a creator. now you cant even substantiate that science can prove the existence of god, talking about slapping yoursef lol. I really rest my case here. the more you explain with your irrational reasoning, the more irrational your argument becomes.
Originally posted by Rooney9:well go watch national geographic and discovery channels more, esp the universe. the commentator uttered the universe is so complex and fascinating that this is not the work of a creator. now you cant even substantiate that science can prove the existence of god, talking about slapping yoursef lol. I really rest my case here. the more you explain with your irrational reasoning, the more irrational your argument becomes.
Yes, it's irrational to based on national geographic and discovery channels and everything they show has nothing to proved that God doe not exist......tell me where and what proof there are ?? NONE!
God is not science and science cannot replace God. You just don't get it.....or simply choose to ignore facts.
Try being coherent and rational.....
You dont think God exist because of what you are watching......that's ok but think deeper.....
why do they say God does not exist? Do they have proof?
Can the commentator explain why and what makes the universe so complex and fascinating?
Why do you believe the commentator who "uttered" that it cannot be God's work? He don't even know ......and simply uttering rubbish....and you believed him.
Hmmm...what happen to your logic and common sense?
So how can you conclude that God does not exist?
Still, till now, You have failed to showed us even ONE......NOTHING to support what you said.
chill and relax, dun get so worked up. but you still haven substantiated your claim earlier that science has proof the existence of god. or is it a case of your claim with nothing to show for it?
Originally posted by Rooney9:chill and relax, dun get so worked up. but you still haven substantiated your claim earlier that science has proof the existence of god. or is it a case of your claim with nothing to show for it?
there you go again.....first you want journals and magazines and then TV, after everything you quote, you still failed to even substantiate your claim....
so how can you turn around and says I have yet to prove when you have choosen to ignore? You failed to answer any of the questions and points I raised to you...you choose to deflect and divert.....
Stay focus boy because till now,
You have failed to showed us even ONE......NOTHING to support what you said.
You are right that yours is a claim that you have nothing to show for and you have proven that beyond doubts.
Asking him how science has proof that god exist and all he does is to babble with all this? is that all you have got in your tank mate?
another self pawned claim.
Originally posted by Rooney9:Asking him how science has proof that god exist and all he does is to babble with all this? is that all you have got in your tank mate?
another self pawned claim.
Wah pathetic leh.....already given you proof that God exist....you choose to ignore and refused to answer any questions......you choose to evade, siam and deflect because you simply cannot answer them? You even need to edit out questions you cannot answer when quoting in your reply.......why so pathetic huh?
If you choose to ingore facts, how can I go on giving you more proof? Got use or not?
On the other hand, the burden of proof is actually on you....you said that God does not exist .....
Till now, you have yet to produce anything to support what you said - because everything you said is nonsense....
If you are sure of what you are saying, then tell me straight and give me your empirical evidence that God does not exist! Till now, you have failed to showed us even ONE......NOTHING to support what you said......ZERO FACTS!!!!!!!!!!!
So why babble with all this? is that all you have got in your tank mate? Or are you going to give us proof of what you said?
Yes or No ?
Surely, you don't have to evade a yes or no answer right?
Or are you going to go on uttering more rubbish? I thought you are only clueless about God but now, I think you are also clueless about science....
Yes, yours is just another self pawned baseless claim.
if claims and argument can be called facts, then I really dunno what facts are actually. lol self pawned proclaim. self proclaim that science prove the existence of god. go ask around if others outside the faith concur with you. you dun have to be so uptight when others dun agree with you.
Originally posted by Rooney9:if claims and argument can be called facts, then I really dunno what facts are actually. lol self pawned proclaim. self proclaim that science prove the existence of god. go ask around if others outside the faith concur with you. you dun have to be so uptight when others dun agree with you.
See, you cannot even answer a simple yes or no question....
where's your proof that God does not exist?
You made a false and baseless claim that God does not exist and yet do not even have a single proof to back up what you said.
You can go around and ask anyone in and outside of any faith or no faith and NO one will ever agree with you......because you are lying and uttering rubbish.
Yes, don't be too uptight when your lies are exposed.....
based on your self pawned comments, you are a frog living in a well if truth be told. enough said about the emptiness and hollowness of your claim, do I even have to continue ![]()
Originally posted by Rooney9:based on your self pawned comments, you are a frog living in a well if truth be told. enough said about the emptiness and hollowness of your claim, do I even have to continue
Ha...ha... ha..... after all, your lies and baseless claims is already exposed and you have no way to continue in this discussion.
Not unless you start producing poof to back up what you said.....
So, you continue to evade, siam and deflect by beating around the bush......
If you can't even answer a simple yes or no question, it only goes to show that you are indeed a frog living in a tiny well.
And every rubbish you uttered so far, you have produced NOTHING....ZERO proof and that goes to shows your claim is indeed empty and hollow....and yet you did make a lot of noise before being challenged.
I wonder will anyone take you seriously with your self pawned comments and claims on proof of existence of god and you came up with science has proof the existence of god. asked what facts and evidence you quoted from to substantiate your claim and this is all you can come out with? its not the quantity but the quality of what is being argued for and against. if this is the quality you can muster, I am afraid its all being BS.