Does God Exist??
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when pressed hard for quotes, you countered back asking for facts backing up there are no god, when the fact of the matter is, the onus is on you or your religion to proof that god exists, since you are the one who is praying to god. funny thing is you actually asked for proof there are no god lol. you really amaze me with your stupendous naviety and your lack of coherent thought process.
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
I wonder will anyone take you seriously with your self pawned comments and claims on proof of existence of god and you came up with science has proof the existence of god. asked what facts and evidence you quoted from to substantiate your claim and this is all you can come out with? its not the quantity but the quality of what is being argued for and against. if this is the quality you can muster, I am afraid its all being BS.
You are the one who said that God does not exist....where is your proof???
and you expect others to take what you said seriously? You cannot even answer a simple yes or no question...!!
And you still evading questions and ignoring facts that I have given to you including proof that God exists. If you disagree with the facts, then debunk it.....and not escape from it.....So stop asking for more proof when you choose to ignore them when given.
And don't sidetrack, deflect, evade and siam from the fact that the burden of proof is on you to back up what you said.
All you lies and baseless claims are challenged and you have no answers to them and you can muster enough guts to try continuing with your BS ?? I am also afraid for you that if you continue like this, no one can ever take you seriously....
Are still going to continue to beat around the bush with your rubbish self pawned comments and claims instead of focusing on this thread discussion that God does not exist and provide the proof to back up what you said??
come on at least give me ONE proof...............have or not?
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
when pressed hard for quotes, you countered back asking for facts backing up there are no god, when the fact of the matter is, the onus is on you or your religion to proof that god exists, since you are the one who is praying to god. funny thing is you actually asked for proof there are no god lol. you really amaze me with your stupendous naviety and your lack of coherent thought process.
All along, you produced NOTHING....ZERO facts to back up what you said.....
And since you said that there is no God (yet you have no proof), it is funny that you are asking me to prove to you that there is God....and when I do, you choose to ignore them.
You really amazes me with your stupendous naviety and your lack of coherent thought process.....as you have displayed throughout your argugment in this thread as well as in the other threads.
and after ALL your LIES and BASELESS CLAIMS are exposed, you go on with this non-related posts......
Come on, stick to the discussion and show me the proof that God does not exist....got or not ??
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pls be original and stop being a copy cat
its kinda boring when I mentioned, you also did the same. stop being a counterfeit. When I said self pawned, you did likewise. when I said frog living in a well and take you seriously, you did it again sigh. the onus is on you to prove there is a god and not vice versa. funny thing is preaching there is god when people are praying to him, but when asked for proof, go ask people who do not subscribed to that belief where is the proof god does not exist lol. if this is not incredibly stupendous, I dunno what is. -
Originally posted by Rooney9:
the onus is on you or your religion to proof that god exists,
who said so?
what kind of stupid logic you have?
you come here and said that God does not exist ..... and so far it is proven that you are lying and making baseless claims, why is the onus on me?
the burden of proof is on you to back up what you said.
I know you can't because afterall, you are only uttering rubbish and you are completely clueless of God and science.....
and that explains why till now you can only beat around the bush instead of producing any proof......ZERO, not even a single proof....PATHETIC!!
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Originally posted by Happyinfo2:
who said so?
what kind of stupid logic you have?
PATHETIC!!
non believers said so. the same can be said of your self pawned claim and counter claim +1. pathetic, yes you can said that again on your desperate attempt
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
pls be original and stop being a copy cat
its kinda boring when I mentioned, you also
did the same. stop being a counterfeit. When I said self pawned,
you did likewise. when I said frog living in a well and take you
seriously, you did it again sigh. the onus is on you to prove there
is a god and not vice versa. whether there is a god or not, doesnt
concern me, I dun care.So, please start being boring and beating around the bush.....start giving proof to back up what you said and you may just get more proof that God do exist.....
and stop making baseless claims and telling lies....and trying to siam out of it.......
If the existance of God really dosen't bother you, why are you here to make so much noise about God non-existance?
By the way, what you described suits you perfectly.......(the self pawned, froggy etc...)
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
non believers said so. the same can be said of your self pawned claim and counter claim +1. pathetic, yes you can said that again on your desperate attempt
ha...ha...ha......Even non believers won't said so.....it is you who said so. Why?
Because you have no way out unless you admit that you are making baseless claims and telling lies....which is already so clearly exposed.
Yes, your desperate attempt to escape from your self pawned claim and counter claim is truely pathetic but once again exposed
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Originally posted by Happyinfo2:
So, please start being boring and beating around the bush.....start giving proof to back up what you said and you may just get more proof that God do exist.....
and stop making baseless claims and telling lies....and trying to siam out of it.......
If the existance of God really dosen't bother you, why are you here to make so much noise about God non-existance?
By the way, what you described suits you perfectly.......(the self pawned, froggy etc...)
I am here to enlighten people the origination of religions, how they came about, but I suppose people like you are being inculcated with the preachings that you are hopelessly out of tune and out of touch with reality. I have heard enough of christians preaching that not only provoked, but also insulted other religions with your god is satanic and only believers are going to heaven. The stand I make is not against your religion, but on any religion with a god or many concept. thank goodness the whole world is not praying or worshipping to god blindly, if not society will never progress the way it is now.
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Originally posted by Happyinfo2:
You are the one who said that God does not exist....where is your proof???
and you expect others to take what you said seriously? You cannot even answer a simple yes or no question...!!
And you still evading questions and ignoring facts that I have given to you including proof that God exists. If you disagree with the facts, then debunk it.....and not escape from it.....So stop asking for more proof when you choose to ignore them when given.
And don't sidetrack, deflect, evade and siam from the fact that the burden of proof is on you to back up what you said.
All you lies and baseless claims are challenged and you have no answers to them and you can muster enough guts to try continuing with your BS ?? I am also afraid for you that if you continue like this, no one can ever take you seriously....
Are still going to continue to beat around the bush with your rubbish self pawned comments and claims instead of focusing on this thread discussion that God does not exist and provide the proof to back up what you said??
come on at least give me ONE proof...............have or not?
Huh? How is it possible to prove something does not exist? The one that claims it exists must come up with the proof of its existence.
Can you come up with one proof, just one, that there are no spirits living on the moon?
Can you come up with just one proof that the moon spirits did not ask you to hand me 10% of your salary every month or else you will die a horrible death?
....come on, at least give me ONE proof....... have or not?
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
I am here to enlighten people the origination of religions, how they came about, but I suppose people like you are being inculcated with the preachings that you are hopelessly out of tune and out of touch with reality. I have heard enough of christians preaching that not only provoked, but also insulted other religions with your god is satanic and only believers are going to heaven. The stand I make is not against your religion, but on any religion with a god or many concept. thank goodness the whole world is not praying or worshipping to god blindly, if not society will never progress the way it is now.
But then you know nothing of the religion and I don't see how anyone can be enlighten by your lies and baseless claims.......
And thank goodness that not everyone will accept baseless claims and lies as enlightenment otherwsie, society will never progress the way it is now......and thanks God for all the good that He and His people are doing for the society.
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Originally posted by Happyinfo2:
But then you know nothing of the religion and I don't see how anyone can be enlighten by your lies and baseless claims.......
And thank goodness that not everyone will accept baseless claims and lies as enlightenment otherwsie, society will never progress the way it is now......and thanks God for all the good that He and His people are doing for the society.
pls lar, you dun even know what origination or how religion came about, all you know is your religion preachings and teachings.
you claim to speak for non believers, another self pawned claim lol when you yourself is a believer. I wonder have you heard of the presumption innocence until proven guilty. likewise presumption there are no god until proven otherwise.
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Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:
Huh? How is it possible to prove something does not exist? The one that claims it exists must come up with the proof of its existence.
....come on, at least give me ONE proof....... have or not?
nicely put andy. hell yeah, how to proof something that lives in the figment of human imagination. yes as I have mentioned, the onus is on you to prove the existence of god. if you have proof, you would have immediately produce it already instead of giving so many excuses and counterclaim aye.
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
pls lar, you dun even know what origination or how religion came about, all you know is your religion preachings and teachings.
you claim to speak for non believers, another self pawned claim lol when you yourself is a believer. I wonder have you heard of the presumption innocence until proven guilty. likewise presumption there are no god until proven otherwise.
pls lar.....you dun even know what you are talking about as proven over time and again...
it was you who claimed that you speak for non-believers (when you said non-believers said so) and I can't but agree with you that yours is not another but always self pawned claim lol...even though you are a non-believer.....
I wonder have you heard that you should not make acsusation without any proof and likewise, your accusation that God does not exist without proof is nothing but baseless claims and lies...
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
nicely put andy. hell yeah, how to proof something that lives in the figment of human imagination. yes as I have mentioned, the onus is on you to prove the existence of god. if you have proof, you would have immediately produce it already instead of giving so many excuses and counterclaim aye.
Chicken and choosing the easy way out....when you cannot even produce ONE proof to back up your claims.....and when all your baseless claims and lies are EXPOSED.
The reason you cannot prodcue any proof is because there isn't because God do exist!
Before you said I counter-claim, you must first prove your claim mah.....did you? Can you?
So, stop beating around the bush.....if you don't have a case, said so.
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Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:
Huh? How is it possible to prove something does not exist? The one that claims it exists must come up with the proof of its existence.
Can you come up with one proof, just one, that there are no spirits living on the moon?
Can you come up with just one proof that the moon spirits did not ask you to hand me 10% of your salary every month or else you will die a horrible death?
....come on, at least give me ONE proof....... have or not?
Huh? You are asking me to teach you how to prove what you believe in?
That is really your problem and if you can't prove and convince yourself , why you believe in it then?
This kind of old and lame illogical question have been asked many times and I think even in this thread. If you want to know, go read the thread yourself.
What is this claim of 10% thingy.....?? It only goes to show that you lack understanding of the faith and simply based on the little you know...
Yes, ....come on, at least give me ONE proof....... have or not?
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Originally posted by Happyinfo2:
Chicken and choosing the easy way out....when you cannot even produce ONE proof to back up your claims.....and when all your baseless claims and lies are EXPOSED.
The reason you cannot prodcue any proof is because there isn't because God do exist!
Before you said I counter-claim, you must first prove your claim mah.....did you? Can you?
So, stop beating around the bush.....if you don't have a case, said so.
look, you are lacking sense from the outset. if god is real and exists, there surely is proof that god exist. if he is unreal and does not exists, the lack of proof surely means god doesnt exists isnt it. if you have proof that god exists, surely you would bring out the proof immediately instead. my proof that god doesnt exists? simple as abc. the lack of proof is the proof that god doesnt exists. I bet this simple logic is beyond you, and your earlier claim that science has proven god exists is as hollow as the claim that santa claus exists in some children come christmas time. asking you for which science journal that said god exists, and you are unable to provide it. anyone can claim anything without the need to substantiate it. funny logic is that the onus is for non believers to provide proof, rather than the believers providing proof to non believers that god does exists. anyway with your lack of logic and narrow mindset, I wouldnt be surprised if you still continue to ask me for proof. you are not even able to answer convincingly to andrewpkyap queries properly, a half past 6 answers at best.
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
look, you are lacking sense from the outset. if god is real and exists, there surely is proof that god exist. if he is unreal and does not exists, the lack of proof surely means god doesnt exists isnt it.
So, finally, you admitted that you have no proof to back up your claims that God is unreal or does not exist.
And yes, you are lacking sense from the outset and your illogical conclusion that "lack of proof" means that God does not exist simply cannot stand. I thought you rely on scientific facts and evidences to make conclusion....why exception when it comes to God?
From all the rubbish that you posted, it simply means that you are completely clueless about God and thus, it is not a fair statment from you that God is unreal or does not exist. You have no proof to back up your claims.
Since you already admitted that you have no proof to back up anything you said, then it is confirmed that they are baseless claims and lies.....
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
if you have proof that god exists, surely you would bring out the proof immediately instead. my proof that god doesnt exists? simple as abc. the lack of proof is the proof that god doesnt exists. I bet this simple logic is beyond you, and your earlier claim that science has proven god exists is as hollow as the claim that santa claus exists in some children come christmas time.
Ha...ha... ha..., you don't need proof to conclude that God is unreal and does not exist but need proof that He does? Talking about illogical....this is classic. Yes, I bet such simple logic is beyond you.....
Actually, I already gave you proof but you choose to ignore it and now claimed that it is "hollow" but never said why and explain how or show your cause.....I have been asking many times and you evaded all the time....
And your lack of proof in itself is the best proof that you are wrong......
Maybe, you can't face the truth and it is as simple as abc.....and hope Santa can bring you some logic and common sense this Christmas.
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
asking you for which science journal that said god exists, and you are unable to provide it. anyone can claim anything without the need to substantiate it. funny logic is that the onus is for non believers to provide proof, rather than the believers providing proof to non believers that god does exists. anyway with your lack of logic and narrow mindset, I wouldnt be surprised if you still continue to ask me for proof.
Why would I refer to science journal to prove God existance? Surely only an idiot would want to do that..... I already answered that and it obviously did not get into your thick sulk. And which science journal that you read have proven that God does not exist? And how about those TV shows you watch?
Before your blur the issue, you came here to said God is unreal, does not exist, Bible is out-dated etc without a single proof.... and I have been trying to understand why you said so by asking for proof to back up what you said ......and finally you admitted that you have nothing to prove or back up what you said
So it is already proven that you have NO CASE and that you are just making baseless claims and telling lies....... What more is there for me to prove that you are wrong? What onus? If there is any need, the onus is on you to prove what you said.
With your lack of logic and narrow mindset, I would not be suprised that you want to continue to make baseless claims and telling lies even when you have been exposed.
Try to give a more convincing post to show your case and back up your claims with facts and proofs. Otherwise, you are just evading and trying to wriggle out of the fact that you made baseless claims and lied.
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
you are not even able to answer convincingly to andrewpkyap queries properly, a half past 6 answers at best.
What convicing answer you want from a totally illogical and lame question? Am I here to tell him how to prove his case for him?
At best, this is just another escape tactic from you to flame andrewpkyap........Pathetic.
You should focus on backing up what you said....if you can't admit it and don't make the same baseless claims and lies again.....
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Originally posted by Happyinfo2:
Ha...ha... ha..., you don't need proof to conclude that God is unreal and does not exist but need proof that He does? Talking about illogical....this is classic. Yes, I bet such simple logic is beyond you.....
Actually, I already gave you proof but you choose to ignore it and now claimed that it is "hollow" but never said why and explain how or show your cause.....I have been asking many times and you evaded all the time....
And your lack of proof in itself is the best proof that you are wrong......
Maybe, you can't face the truth and it is as simple as abc.....and hope Santa can bring you some logic and common sense this Christmas.
if that is considered as proof, then superman does exists via DC comics, superman tv series and movies haha. superman does exists in real life
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Originally posted by Happyinfo2:
What convicing answer you want from a totally illogical and lame question? Am I here to tell him how to prove his case for him?
At best, this is just another escape tactic from you to flame andrewpkyap........Pathetic.
You should focus on backing up what you said....if you can't admit it and don't make the same baseless claims and lies again.....
as I said previously, if you have proof, christians or judaist would have proven it long ago. if you have proof, you would have provided it immediately and there will be no debate whatsoever. we are still awaiting for you and your brethens to provide it. -
Originally posted by Rooney9:
if that is considered as proof, then superman does exists via DC comics, superman tv series and movies haha. superman does exists in real life
See, there is proof but you choose to ignore and reject it but NO valid reasons is stated.
And it has nothing to do with superman because Jesus did exist and history, facts and science all point to that truth.
What about you? Have you even provided ONE proof?
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
as I said previously, if you have proof, christians or judaist would have proven it long ago. if you have proof, you would have provided it immediately and there will be no debate whatsoever. we are still awaiting for you and your brethens to provide it.See you completely try to evade the issue at hand....you came here to said all those things you did but can not back it up......nothing at all.
As you rightly said, if you have proof of what you said, you would have produced them and thus will truely enlighten us to what you said.....
But the facts remained that you provided NOTHING so far and thus ALL you said are complete baseless claims and lies.....
What else do you need?
Continue to evade by waiting for me and my brethens to prove it? Prove what? Until you have proven what you said, then there is really nothing for us to prove......there is no need to counter your baseless claims and lies.......is there?
We just leave you as you are.....a complete liar fully exposed. Prove to me that you did not lie......by producing facts to back up your claims.....and once again, if you can't, admit it and don't make the same baseless claims and lies again.....