Originally posted by thirtyquid:Unfortunately a non-Christian will go to hell because he hasnt confessed his sins. You go to hell because of all the sins you've ever committed, and that is an absolute. The only way out is through God's forgiveness - that's why when someone believes in Jesus it's called "salvation", where you are "saved" from your sins & its consequences.
Seems really unfair right, that bad people who finally believe (as in, truly. lip service wont get you anywhere) can end up in heaven, and good people who dont end up in hell. This is because it's not about how much good I do - because that is unfair. It's about whether my heart is willing to believe and realise I am a sinner and turn away from that. It's a fact it's like you don't question why the sun is only hot, or gravity holds us down all the time. Similarly, this is just the way it is.
Tell me this:
A non christian, help its pple, build school, building, roads for its pple.
Give food and housing for the poor, built hospital for the pple.
One day, he fall ill and pass away.
Where he go? Hell or heaven?
Originally posted by Fantagf:Condemnation again.
Someone still does not know there are christians in hell, wahahhahhahaha! so damn bloody naive. wahahahahahhaha!
think if youre in hell you aint christian oh nox
Originally posted by thirtyquid:think if youre in hell you aint christian oh nox
Tell me the answer.
Originally posted by thirtyquid:think if youre in hell you aint christian oh nox
crap, I doubt you know the bible well.
jesus brought someone he chosen down to hell, there the christians were in hell.
Jesus said that not everyone who called Him "Lord, Lord" will enter the kingdom of heaven but those who repent and do the will of God. BY accepting christ, go to church, condemn people and refuse to repent, change for the better and ignore God's will will lead to christians end up in hell.
The road to heaven is narrow, very very narrow.
Originally posted by likeyou:
Tell me the answer.
He is telling you all except christians go to heaven. All others go hell
No answer ?????
Originally posted by likeyou:No answer ?????
Sorry sgforums is delaying is responses sheesh T_T
Anw I was saying yes, a good non-Christian will go to hell. But by "Christian", it doesnt merely mean going to Church every sunday and reading your bible & praying. Sure, Christians do that, but doing that doesnt make you Christian. It's about your heart, whether it truly believes in and loves God. being Christian is about confessing your sins & acknowledging Jesus is God, who paid for your wrongdoings already.
The thing is, the 'criteria' to get into Heaven is not by good works, but through the belief in Jesus Christ & being right with God. It's like for e.g., i wanna get into NUS Medicine. So if I get straight As, which is great, but if i dont take any science... then I still cant get in! So similarly, if I do alot of good things and love people, it doesnt get me in.
Originally posted by likeyou:Tell me this:
A non christian, help its pple, build school, building, roads for its pple.
Give food and housing for the poor, built hospital for the pple.
One day, he fall ill and pass away.
Where he go? Hell or heaven?
I am waiting for your answer....u disappeared?
Originally posted by thirtyquid:Sorry sgforums is delaying is responses sheesh T_T
Anw I was saying yes, a good non-Christian will go to hell. But by "Christian", it doesnt merely mean going to Church every sunday and reading your bible & praying. Sure, Christians do that, but doing that doesnt make you Christian. It's about your heart, whether it truly believes in and loves God. being Christian is about confessing your sins & acknowledging Jesus is God, who paid for your wrongdoings already.
The thing is, the 'criteria' to get into Heaven is not by good works, but through the belief in Jesus Christ & being right with God. It's like for e.g., i wanna get into NUS Medicine. So if I get straight As, which is great, but if i dont take any science... then I still cant get in! So similarly, if I do alot of good things and love people, it doesnt get me in.
You have a very narrow mind.
Being brainwash.
A good kind hearted, willing to help pple....etc...go to hell? Who taught you this? The person taught you this is chai sai.
Originally posted by likeyou:I am waiting for your answer....u disappeared?
i was a christian, so I can answer to that. According to christianity, this person will go hell for this person did not accept Jesus Christ as his personal saviour.
In christianity, there is no way to heaven except through Jesus Christ.
Originally posted by likeyou:
You have a very narrow mind.Being brainwash.
A good kind hearted, willing to help pple....etc...go to hell? Who taught you this? The person taught you this is chai sai.
YOu comical la, what is chai sai?
Originally posted by thirtyquid:Sorry sgforums is delaying is responses sheesh T_T
Anw I was saying yes, a good non-Christian will go to hell. But by "Christian", it doesnt merely mean going to Church every sunday and reading your bible & praying. Sure, Christians do that, but doing that doesnt make you Christian. It's about your heart, whether it truly believes in and loves God. being Christian is about confessing your sins & acknowledging Jesus is God, who paid for your wrongdoings already.
The thing is, the 'criteria' to get into Heaven is not by good works, but through the belief in Jesus Christ & being right with God. It's like for e.g., i wanna get into NUS Medicine. So if I get straight As, which is great, but if i dont take any science... then I still cant get in! So similarly, if I do alot of good things and love people, it doesnt get me in.
Supposing I tell you I am a non christian.
All christian will go to hell. Non christian will a golden heart will go to heaven.
And you do alot of good things and love pple will also go to hell.
Is that what you mean?
Originally posted by likeyou:
You have a very narrow mind.Being brainwash.
A good kind hearted, willing to help pple....etc...go to hell? Who taught you this? The person taught you this is chai sai.
Dont get angry at him or talk about brain washing after all both of you are going to vote for PAP right?
Originally posted by likeyou:
Supposing I tell you I am a non christian.All christian will go to hell. Non christian will a golden heart will go to heaven.
And you do alot of good things and love pple will also go to hell.
Is that what you mean?
Sorry? Youre confusing me. I'm saying that Christians - meaning people who believe & do, not just people who CALL themselves christians - will go to heaven. If you don't believe and no matter how great you are, you'll still go to hell period.
And I dont think it's very nice to say I've been brainwashed. I have reasoned and I still believe.
Originally posted by Fantagf:
crap, I doubt you know the bible well.jesus brought someone he chosen down to hell, there the christians were in hell.
Jesus said that not everyone who called Him "Lord, Lord" will enter the kingdom of heaven but those who repent and do the will of God. BY accepting christ, go to church, condemn people and refuse to repent, change for the better and ignore God's will will lead to christians end up in hell.
The road to heaven is narrow, very very narrow.
That's why I said lip service or stuff you do don't helpya. It's the heart.
Originally posted by Short Ninja:
Dont get angry at him or talk about brain washing after all both of you are going to vote for PAP right?
hahahhha! so United they stand! hahahahha
Originally posted by thirtyquid:Sorry? Youre confusing me. I'm saying that Christians - meaning people who believe & do, not just people who CALL themselves christians - will go to heaven. If you don't believe and no matter how great you are, you'll still go to hell period.
And I dont think it's very nice to say I've been brainwashed. I have reasoned and I still believe.
That's why I said lip service or stuff you do don't helpya. It's the heart.
The heart must goes along with actions. Heart says I love people but actions show otherwise. Defeat the purpose of God's love.
Another gone case.
You still cant get what I mean.
No point talking to you lah.
May all christian go to heaven.
Even you go for rape rampage, raping all the girls,killing the pple, set fire, cursinig and swearing...all will go heaven.
Except non chrisitan, lets unite and go hell.
Originally posted by Fantagf:
YOu comical la, what is chai sai?
"eat shit"
Originally posted by likeyou:
"eat shit"
what dialect was that?
Originally posted by Fantagf:
what dialect was that?
hokkien, should be "cheah sai"
Originally posted by likeyou:Another gone case.
You still cant get what I mean.
No point talking to you lah.
May all christian go to heaven.
Even you go for rape rampage, raping all the girls,killing the pple, set fire, cursinig and swearing...all will go heaven.
Except non chrisitan, lets unite and go hell.
Even you go for rape rampage, raping all the girls,killing the pple, set fire, cursinig and swearing...all will go heaven. ==> These will not go heaven unless they repent and do the will of God.
Many christians think that by accepting Jesus as Lord and Saviour entitle them free passport to heaven, this is not true. God is not stupid to allow those (text in red) to go heaven.
Originally posted by likeyou:
hokkien, should be "cheah sai"
I see.
When they go heaven they no cheah sai. They will praise and praise God.
Anyway, there are other religions we can explore, no need depend on Christianity.
Originally posted by Fantagf:Even you go for rape rampage, raping all the girls,killing the pple, set fire, cursinig and swearing...all will go heaven. ==> These will not go heaven unless they repent and do the will of God.
Many christians think that by accepting Jesus as Lord and Saviour entitle them free passport to heaven, this is not true. God is not stupid to allow those (text in red) to go heaven.
Anw I was saying yes, a good non-Christian will go to hell
But according to the above.....
So today I curse pple, rape girl, steal ah mah ah pek money, sunday I go church I confess...I still go heaven?
That guy is crazy! Cheah Sia!
Originally posted by Short Ninja:
Dont get angry at him or talk about brain washing after all both of you are going to vote for PAP right?
LOL totally. Ok I need to go home now I cant reply anymore for today. Didnt mean to offend you if I did, likeyou. Cheerios
Originally posted by likeyou:But according to the above.....
So today I curse pple, rape girl, steal ah mah ah pek money, sunday I go church I confess...I still go heaven?
That guy is crazy! Cheah Sia!
Anyway, sad to say majority of christians have the wrong concept that accepting christ as personal savour and LOrd is good enough for getting free passport to heaven. They either refuse to know, ignorant or whatever that this is not true. Jesus said clearly that not all will go heaven, only those who REPENT and do the will of God will enter the kingdom of heaven.
Ok, I will be clear. According to christianity:
First, accept christ as personal saviour and Lord
Then REPENT and do the will of God
This way christians will enter the kingdom of heaven.