Originally posted by thirtyquid:LOL totally. Ok I need to go home now I cant reply anymore for today. Didnt mean to offend you if I did, likeyou. Cheerios
Cheers! See ya.
Originally posted by Fantagf:
Anyway, sad to say majority of christians have the wrong concept that accepting christ as personal savour and LOrd is good enough for getting free passport to heaven. They either refuse to know, ignorant or whatever that this is not true. Jesus said clearly that not all will go heaven, only those who REPENT and do the will of God will enter the kingdom of heaven.
Agreed, maybe due to the interpretation....misunderstood....human is like that lah.
Human mind very very strong.
Hello, those want to know christianity, must also know there are many loopholes in christianity. That is why I am one of the many that gave up on christianity.
Wake up!
Originally posted by Fantagf:Hello, those want to know christianity, must also know there are many loopholes in christianity. That is why I am one of the many that gave up on christianity.
Wake up!
Hey there okay I'm back for a bit. Like I said it's the heart that counts. Like you said "Jesus said clearly that not all will go heaven, only those who REPENT and do the will of God will enter the kingdom of heaven." and you are right. When your heart is truly repentant and right with God, it will spur you to do the things of God. It's not just the ACT.
I know it seems that there are many loopholes, and I can tell you are person who chooses to follow logic. The thing is that, believing in God is called "Faith". It wouldnt be faith if you can reason entirely right?
And you like to quote the Bible, so remember that God's ways & thoughts are above ours? Like he thinks in a different dimension. And we're human, and limited so this is only as far as we can reason.
I hope you find your way back one day, because honestly, it's your loss.
Originally posted by likeyou:But according to the above.....
So today I curse pple, rape girl, steal ah mah ah pek money, sunday I go church I confess...I still go heaven?
That guy is crazy! Cheah Sia!
And yep, likeyou, I was trying to say to get into heaven, it doesnt matter what you have done or have not done. Because what you DO isnt the criteria. It's the belief in God that holds. And truly believing will translate into action that will mean living right.
Thing is, in God's sight, as long as you do anything wrong, it's sin enough.
Three last things, guys.
1. I'm not "him". Haha.
2. Mathematically speaking right, if you believe in God and become a Christian, there's more to gain. Let's say is God and heaven & hell isnt real, then if you believe, that's that. But if it really is real, and you dont believe... well, we wouldn't want to go there right?
3. Okay peace peace peace let's not become ugly Singaporeans over this issue. (Y)
Originally posted by thirtyquid:
Hey there okay I'm back for a bit. Like I said it's the heart that counts. Like you said "Jesus said clearly that not all will go heaven, only those who REPENT and do the will of God will enter the kingdom of heaven." and you are right. When your heart is truly repentant and right with God, it will spur you to do the things of God. It's not just the ACT.I know it seems that there are many loopholes, and I can tell you are person who chooses to follow logic. The thing is that, believing in God is called "Faith". It wouldnt be faith if you can reason entirely right?
And you like to quote the Bible, so remember that God's ways & thoughts are above ours? Like he thinks in a different dimension. And we're human, and limited so this is only as far as we can reason.
I hope you find your way back one day, because honestly, it's your loss.
And yep, likeyou, I was trying to say to get into heaven, it doesnt matter what you have done or have not done. Because what you DO isnt the criteria. It's the belief in God that holds. And truly believing will translate into action that will mean living right.
Thing is, in God's sight, as long as you do anything wrong, it's sin enough.
Three last things, guys.
1. I'm not "him". Haha.
2. Mathematically speaking right, if you believe in God and become a Christian, there's more to gain. Let's say is God and heaven & hell isnt real, then if you believe, that's that. But if it really is real, and you dont believe... well, we wouldn't want to go there right?
3. Okay peace peace peace let's not become ugly Singaporeans over this issue. (Y)
there is something to lose if believe wrongly. what happens if other religion is correct and i have chosen wrongly ? but what you said is correct, i will not say peace, i will say respect.........................respect........................respect........................reasoning but don't attack.
Originally posted by Fairyfairy86:there is something to lose if believe wrongly. what happens if other religion is correct and i have chosen wrongly ? but what you said is correct, i will not say peace, i will say respect.........................respect........................respect........................reasoning but don't attack.
Well, the thing is, christianity by far is the only absolute religion. By absolute meaning it says that Jesus is the only way and there is nothing else. Most of other religions don't claim their God to be the only one and only way, so while there is definitely an opportunity cost, it's the smallest you can get (:
Originally posted by thirtyquid:Well, the thing is, christianity by far is the only absolute religion. By absolute meaning it says that Jesus is the only way and there is nothing else. Most of other religions don't claim their God to be the only one and only way, so while there is definitely an opportunity cost, it's the smallest you can get (:
If you were going by this analogy, it would never work as you can't just choose to believe at the snap of a finger, you'd be a hypocratic sycophant.