Originally posted by DouglasBitMeFingerBoomz:to laffin, although i have no scientific means of showing u the statistics, based on what i know. the carbon dating would probably be the same.
kok
I help your physics teacher to kok your head.
Go to back to school and save your parents the embarrassment.
to likeyou: your question was 1) If a non christian has a good heart, do good deeds, help the poors, built roads and school for the poor, one day, he die, he go to hell? Cos he's not a christian? Someone told me the answer is YES.
laffin123: haha whatever you say, because that would make me more dumb. im still in sch btw.
Originally posted by DouglasBitMeFingerBoomz:laffin123: haha whatever you say, because that would make me more dumb. im still in sch btw.
Just stay in primary school till you understand that there is no god.
Originally posted by BadzMaro:Hey man, u understand my post or not.
Atheism itself is a form of religion, especially when they become die hard defending it against all others.
All i know is a Christian dont reject the BIble, as it is there for a reason, to learn to understand and learn its message.
Last time I checked, religions usually have supernatural being/beings. Atheism is more of an ideology. But I know what you mean now.
I meant parts of the Bible not the whole thing...
Originally posted by DouglasBitMeFingerBoomz:to likeyou: your question was 1) If a non christian has a good heart, do good deeds, help the poors, built roads and school for the poor, one day, he die, he go to hell? Cos he's not a christian? Someone told me the answer is YES.
Hey there unfortunately the answer is yes, because he hasnt confessed his sins. You go to hell because of all the sins you've ever committed, and that is an absolute. The only way out is through God's forgiveness - that's why when someone believes in Jesus it's called "salvation", where you are "saved" from your sins & its consequences.
Seems really unfair right, that bad people who finally believe (as in, truly. lip service wont get you anywhere) can end up in heaven, and good people who dont end up in hell. This is because it's not about how much good I do - because that is unfair. It's about whether my heart is willing to believe and realise I am a sinner and turn away from that.
Originally posted by thirtyquid:Hey there unfortunately the answer is yes, because he hasnt confessed his sins. You go to hell because of all the sins you've ever committed, and that is an absolute. The only way out is through God's forgiveness - that's why when someone believes in Jesus it's called "salvation", where you are "saved" from your sins & its consequences.
Seems really unfair right, that bad people who finally believe (as in, truly. lip service wont get you anywhere) can end up in heaven, and good people who dont end up in hell. This is because it's not about how much good I do - because that is unfair. It's about whether my heart is willing to believe and realise I am a sinner and turn away from that.
The person who hasn't died claims to know who goes to a heaven and who doesn't? Seems weird, no?
anyone here aware that there are many many messiahs/saviours ALL before the time of Jesus that share the same..................
late december birth............virgin birth...............performed miracles................considered a messiah/saviour...............betrayed and killed....................resurrection..................
NONE of the famous Roman and Jewish historians living during Jesus's time, some of them even living in Jerusalem.................NONE has ever mention Jesus or Christians................the so-called little paragraph on Jesus by Josephus was exposed as a forgery..............even Christian scholars admitted that most of the stories were very close to earlier tales of other religions or cultures..............
Jesus = taken from Hesus............a Celtic/druid god.............
Christ = taken from Krishna..............an Indian god..............
so tell me..............who's copying who.....................
Jesus was a creation (just like Harry Potter) of the Roman emperor to enhance his hold on his empire..............just a political tool, nothing more..........
Originally posted by As romanista2001:NONE of the famous Roman and Jewish historians living during Jesus's time, some of them even living in Jerusalem.................NONE has ever mention Jesus or Christians................the so-called little paragraph on Jesus by Josephus was exposed as a forgery..............even Christian scholars admitted that most of the stories were very close to earlier tales of other religions or cultures..............
this is very eye-opening
Wow...making me more confused this time.
Better go a for cup of coffee.
Ultimately ,it is you who would decide your own heaven & hell at the moment of death.For It is all in your mind....your past sins,conscience,guilt........etc
Originally posted by Short Ninja:Ultimately ,it is you who would decide your own heaven & hell at the moment of death.For It is all in your mind....your past sins,conscience,guilt........etc
Yes yes and yes.
What you do now in present life will get what you going for in the next life.
What you do now in present life will get to know what you did in your past life.
Originally posted by As romanista2001:anyone here aware that there are many many messiahs/saviours ALL before the time of Jesus that share the same..................
late december birth............virgin birth...............performed miracles................considered a messiah/saviour...............betrayed and killed....................resurrection..................
NONE of the famous Roman and Jewish historians living during Jesus's time, some of them even living in Jerusalem.................NONE has ever mention Jesus or Christians................the so-called little paragraph on Jesus by Josephus was exposed as a forgery..............even Christian scholars admitted that most of the stories were very close to earlier tales of other religions or cultures..............
Jesus = taken from Hesus............a Celtic/druid god.............
Christ = taken from Krishna..............an Indian god..............
so tell me..............who's copying who.....................
Jesus was a creation (just like Harry Potter) of the Roman emperor to enhance his hold on his empire..............just a political tool, nothing more..........
That person really existed as 'Jesus' da man but how popular was he when he was alive taking into account there were no TV ,radio,internet,air travel,newspapers?....You tink lar.
I can imagine what Chuck Norris would become after 2,000 years
Originally posted by As romanista2001:anyone here aware that there are many many messiahs/saviours ALL before the time of Jesus that share the same..................
late december birth............virgin birth...............performed miracles................considered a messiah/saviour...............betrayed and killed....................resurrection..................
NONE of the famous Roman and Jewish historians living during Jesus's time, some of them even living in Jerusalem.................NONE has ever mention Jesus or Christians................the so-called little paragraph on Jesus by Josephus was exposed as a forgery..............even Christian scholars admitted that most of the stories were very close to earlier tales of other religions or cultures..............
Jesus = taken from Hesus............a Celtic/druid god.............
Christ = taken from Krishna..............an Indian god..............
so tell me..............who's copying who.....................
Jesus was a creation (just like Harry Potter) of the Roman emperor to enhance his hold on his empire..............just a political tool, nothing more..........
Yeah, that's right!
Bddha was a plagiarist, the buddhist philosophy people talk about is nothing but samkhya hinduism in disguise. Buddha changed the terminology.
Jesus was also the reincarnation of Buddha.
Originally posted by googoomuck:Yeah, that's right!
Bddha was a plagiarist, the buddhist philosophy people talk about is nothing but samkhya hinduism in disguise. Buddha changed the terminology.
Jesus was also the reincarnation of Buddha.
each time someone attack christianity, you must attack buddhism. is it buddhists good to bully ? if i am you, i will just prove it to them that they are wrong and not attack other religion. it is your duty to defend your religion and not attack other religion.
Originally posted by Fairyfairy86:each time someone attack christianity, you must attack buddhism. is it buddhists good to bully ? if i am you, i will just prove it to them that they are wrong and not attack other religion. it is your duty to defend your religion and not attack other religion.
Look at your own backyard before you attack. Do you have any means of defence? None!
Originally posted by googoomuck:Look at your own backyard before you attack. Do you have any means of defence? None!
are you saying you have no means of defence ?
Originally posted by Fairyfairy86:
are you saying you have no means of defence ?
Counter-attack is the best means of defence because you have no means of defence in your own back yard .
Originally posted by As romanista2001:anyone here aware that there are many many messiahs/saviours ALL before the time of Jesus that share the same..................
late december birth............virgin birth...............performed miracles................considered a messiah/saviour...............betrayed and killed....................resurrection..................
NONE of the famous Roman and Jewish historians living during Jesus's time, some of them even living in Jerusalem.................NONE has ever mention Jesus or Christians................the so-called little paragraph on Jesus by Josephus was exposed as a forgery..............even Christian scholars admitted that most of the stories were very close to earlier tales of other religions or cultures..............
Jesus = taken from Hesus............a Celtic/druid god.............
Christ = taken from Krishna..............an Indian god..............
so tell me..............who's copying who.....................
Jesus was a creation (just like Harry Potter) of the Roman emperor to enhance his hold on his empire..............just a political tool, nothing more..........
The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Anw don't you think an empire would like to clamp down or wipe out evidence of things that they saw as a threat to them? Think of Queen Hapshetsut or Akhenaten that were attempted to be written out of ancient Egyptian history.
But I'm not saying that happened with Jesus, I'm just saying that could have been. Besides, the Bible itself records the actions/words of Jesus, and the earlier books are prophecies of his life, and the records have been proven to be genuine. If they're all made up, you'd have to admit it's all a very very elaborate conspiracy, because the books were written centuries apart in a variety of countries, and still corroborate.
Originally posted by googoomuck:Look at your own backyard before you attack. Do you have any means of defence? None!
look at this troll posting LOOL ![]()
I am laughing my ass off, almost fell off my chair ![]()
Originally posted by Rooney9:look at this troll posting LOOL
I am laughing my ass off, almost fell off my chair
i will appoint him royal jester in my court
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Originally posted by thirtyquid:The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Anw don't you think an empire would like to clamp down or wipe out evidence of things that they saw as a threat to them? Think of Queen Hapshetsut or Akhenaten that were attempted to be written out of ancient Egyptian history.
But I'm not saying that happened with Jesus, I'm just saying that could have been. Besides, the Bible itself records the actions/words of Jesus, and the earlier books are prophecies of his life, and the records have been proven to be genuine. If they're all made up, you'd have to admit it's all a very very elaborate conspiracy, because the books were written centuries apart in a variety of countries, and still corroborate.
the reason that 'the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence' does not hold water and is purely used for psychological purposes than point of debate
Originally posted by laurence82:the reason that 'the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence' does not hold water and is purely used for psychological purposes than point of debate
Going by the 'absence of evidence is not evidence of absence' argument, we might be inclined to believe in unicorns, gnomes and pixies.
Originally posted by dadeadman1337:Going by the 'absence of evidence is not evidence of absence' argument, we might be inclined to believe in unicorns, gnomes and pixies.
elves, giants and dwarves too
Originally posted by dadeadman1337:Going by the 'absence of evidence is not evidence of absence' argument, we might be inclined to believe in unicorns, gnomes and pixies.
what about the myth of lochness and the bigfoot for a start? how about the ancient chang er residing in the moon?