The Problem of Evil?
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
You mean there is no such thing as objectively good and objectively evil? So you don't believe in the existence of objective moral values? The Bible speaks of good and evil, all subjective and appeal to emotions?
Sin was first conceived in the devil himself. In his pride he led a rebellion against God.
Which part of my description is meaningless? Why?
I disagree that evil is inevitable. Anyway, the fact remains that times that the existence of evil is taken as an argument against the existence of God, especially that of the God of the Bible. How do you deal with this? Just say it is a fruitless debate to the atheist?
BIC
In the first place, not everyone believes in the christian version of the devil.
And the spirits are not empirical evidence, just experiences of some human beings..
Why do you make such huge assumptions?
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
You mean there is no such thing as objectively good and objectively evil? So you don't believe in the existence of objective moral values? The Bible speaks of good and evil, all subjective and appeal to emotions?
Sin was first conceived in the devil himself. In his pride he led a rebellion against God.
Which part of my description is meaningless? Why?
I disagree that evil is inevitable. Anyway, the fact remains that times that the existence of evil is taken as an argument against the existence of God, especially that of the God of the Bible. How do you deal with this? Just say it is a fruitless debate to the atheist?
BIC
In the first place, not everyone believes in the christian version of the devil.
And the spirits are not empirical evidence, just experiences of some human beings..
Why do you make such huge assumptions?
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Originally posted by Tcmc:
BIC
In the first place, not everyone believes in the christian version of the devil.
And the spirits are not empirical evidence, just experiences of some human beings..
Why do you make such huge assumptions?
Shouldn't Christians believe in the Bible's depiction of the devil? The red Hellboy-looking guy with a pitchfork instead of a oversized hammer hand? OK I was being facetious.
In the first place, I didn't say that everyone believes in the Bible's depiction of the devil so this is a strawman. But Christians ought to believe in what the Bible says.
Secondly, you are still blinded by scientism.
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Originally posted by Tcmc:
BIC
In the first place, not everyone believes in the christian version of the devil.
And the spirits are not empirical evidence, just experiences of some human beings..
Why do you make such huge assumptions?
Shouldn't Christians believe in the Bible's depiction of the devil? The red Hellboy-looking guy with a pitchfork instead of a oversized hammer hand? OK I was being facetious.
In the first place, I didn't say that everyone believes in the Bible's depiction of the devil so this is a strawman. But Christians ought to believe in what the Bible says.
Secondly, you are still blinded by scientism.
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
Shouldn't Christians believe in the Bible's depiction of the devil? The red Hellboy-looking guy with a pitchfork instead of a oversized hammer hand? OK I was being facetious.
In the first place, I didn't say that everyone believes in the Bible's depiction of the devil so this is a strawman. But Christians ought to believe in what the Bible says.
Secondly, you are still blinded by scientism.
BIC
I say not everyone believes in the christian devil because you always quote the bible for us even though we don't believe in it.
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Just believe in the theory that makes you comfortable la
This kind of thing cannot argue finish one
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Originally posted by Tcmc:
BIC
I say not everyone believes in the christian devil because you always quote the bible for us even though we don't believe in it.
Failure to accept the truth does not invalidate the truthfulness of the truth.
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... truthfulness of the truth... the redundancy makes the statement sounds forced... Emptiness of empty Fullness of full Business of busy Loudness of loud
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
Failure to accept the truth does not invalidate the truthfulness of the truth.
thats on the assumption that the presented truth is really the truth. -
Originally posted by [imdestinyz]:
thats on the assumption that the presented truth is really the truth.Well, the Christian does not just assume blindly that the Bible is truth, but have good reasons to believe that the Bible is what it claims to be, God's Word.
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
Well, the Christian does not just assume blindly that the Bible is truth, but have good reasons to believe that the Bible is what it claims to be, God's Word.
BIC
There you go one circle
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Originally posted by Tcmc:
BIC
There you go one circle
Well you should know by now that any attack on the faith always centres on the Word of God. -
Originally posted by BroInChrist:
Well you should know by now that any attack on the faith always centres on the Word of God.BIC
Bible proves itself right?
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Originally posted by Tcmc:
BIC
Bible proves itself right?
What do you mean the Bible proves itself?
Please see also http://creation.com/not-circular-reasoning
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"Ironically though, those who reject ‘circular reasoning’ because it is irrational or unreasonable are also guilty of the same since they are appealing to logic to prove logic…
Some things are simply axiomatic. Like the Word of God." ~ ???
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Originally posted by Aneslayer:
"Ironically though, those who reject ‘circular reasoning’ because it is irrational or unreasonable are also guilty of the same since they are appealing to logic to prove logic…
Some things are simply axiomatic. Like the Word of God." ~ ???
For the Christian, the inspiration, infallibility and inerrancy of the Word of God is axiomatic. To deny this is to commit theological suicide.
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
For the Christian, the inspiration, infallibility and inerrancy of the Word of God is axiomatic. To deny this is to commit theological suicide.
that explains why there are fundamentalism and extremism in this world.
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Originally posted by Jacky Woo:
that explains why there are fundamentalism and extremism in this world.
Wrong conclusion, dude.
But you should try to explain why you think so. I haven't seen ANY argument or case made at all, just the usual assertion passed off as fact or explanation.
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
Wrong conclusion, dude.
But you should try to explain why you think so. I haven't seen ANY argument or case made at all, just the usual assertion passed off as fact or explanation
as ever your reply is as deluded and extreme. look at the past history and terrorism in the name of religion.
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
For the Christian, the inspiration, infallibility and inerrancy of the Word of God is axiomatic. To deny this is to commit theological suicide.
Which version of Word of God were you refering to?
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Originally posted by Aneslayer:
Which version of Word of God were you refering to?
How many versions do you have in mind? -
Originally posted by BroInChrist:
How many versions do you have in mind?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_Bible_translations
http://www.allbibles.com/bibleversions.asp
http://www.allbibles.com/brands.asp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Books_of_the_Bible
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/larry_taylor/canon.html
So which one were you refering?
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Originally posted by Aneslayer:
So why do you think there are so many versions? -
Originally posted by BroInChrist:
So why do you think there are so many versions?Because there are so many versions or more... And why are you asking ridiculous questions instead of answering a simple question?
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Originally posted by Aneslayer:
Because there are so many versions or more... And why are you asking ridiculous questions instead of answering a simple question?
My questions are no more ridiculous than yours.