Will I be posted to other unit after recourse
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I have been downgraded to PES c9l2 perm due to a knee operation and my vocation now is signal storeman. My recourse is due next year on april and will end on june.
So will i posted to other unit after my BMT recourse or will i stay with my current unit and present vocation and do i need to attend reservist after i ORD. Thanks a lot for all your help and replies.
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it depends. when u ORD by the way?
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22/06/06Originally posted by Gordonator:it depends. when u ORD by the way? -
so meaning after recourse, u still have 1 more year to ORD.
i really don't know much about the current system, but all i know is that most PES C people still have to come back for reservice. -
Thats why i need more info on this matter. Please help if you guys knows anything about this
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can anyone please help me on this matter.....thks
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My guesses:
No more re-vocational training, if you've already been formally trained in your present one.
Same unit? Depends on needs, I guess. Don't see why your current outfit shouldn't get 1st shot at retaining your services. It'll help if your Signal Officer or Specialist fight for you.
Yes, you'll do reservist. The best lobang you can hope for is to be out onto a holding list - i.e. no unit - & maybe they'll forget you. Much depends on the timing of your ORD: if it's together with fellow combat-unit personnel, you'll likely join their reservist roster. If it's an earlier date or if you're with a higher-up outfit (or a training school), then it's a matter of demand & supply. Could end up a newbie joining a lao chiao unit in the middle of their cycle, or a long-forgotten lao peng suddenly posted to a newly-ORD'd unit years from now. -
any more answers from more ppl, more the better
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true. some ORD PES C people are pretty much forgetten or they are not in demand, so maybe no reservice.Originally posted by Moxie:Yes, you'll do reservist. The best lobang you can hope for is to be out onto a holding list - i.e. no unit - & maybe they'll forget you.
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only for pes b recoursee, they will be posted to other units, for pes e/c, after recourse, will RTU (return to unit) according to the directive
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thanks a lot for all the help. if any one has more opinion, pls post it. Thanks
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This is what I know.If you have undergone formal vocational training and posted to a unit after such training, you will go back to that unit after your Recourse BMT.There is no point in switching you around.The worst that might happen, which is very unlikely is that you might go to another unit with your current vocation , IF your parent unit for some strange reason whatsoever does not want you back and have requested to post you out.Relax...
As for reservist duty, you and I PES C9L2 people are in some sort of a grey area.I'm also worried whether my ICT intensity will be greater because of me being a Specialist.This I need more information, but I have been told that I would be RTU to my unit for NSmen duty.Certain vocations help to ensure you will never go to another unit whereas others can get you posted all over the place.Disruptees are in the same boat as us too. -
yupz... PES C still got reservice... sianz... goin back in dec, during the christmas period for 1 wk of admin work.... sigh....Originally posted by Gordonator:so meaning after recourse, u still have 1 more year to ORD.
i really don't know much about the current system, but all i know is that most PES C people still have to come back for reservice. -
What injuries cause you to be downgraded....Originally posted by LazerLordz:This is what I know.If you have undergone formal vocational training and posted to a unit after such training, you will go back to that unit after your Recourse BMT.There is no point in switching you around.The worst that might happen, which is very unlikely is that you might go to another unit with your current vocation , IF your parent unit for some strange reason whatsoever does not want you back and have requested to post you out.Relax...
As for reservist duty, you and I PES C9L2 people are in some sort of a grey area.I'm also worried whether my ICT intensity will be greater because of me being a Specialist.This I need more information, but I have been told that I would be RTU to my unit for NSmen duty.Certain vocations help to ensure you will never go to another unit whereas others can get you posted all over the place.Disruptees are in the same boat as us too.
I still have not gone for my signal storeman course and i hope they can arrange it for me asap to avoid being posted to another unit. -
As for reservist duty, you and I PES C9L2 people are in some sort of a grey area.
I dunno about nowadays but there was no grey area with the C9L2 personnel in my reservist arty unit. They inprocessed along with the main body, then was basically confined to camp when the unit moved out to the field. Most of them just stayed in the bunks, reporting sporadically to a rear-echelon NCO or the BN office to show that they haven't sneaked elsewhere.
Very switched-off life for them during ICTs, though I've heard 2nd-hand that the cooks also moved out sometimes (for a field-kitchen delpoyment) & the S1 cell too (for a field-administrative tent). Even the armourers got bored & volunteered to travel with the MT-line repair vehicle ....
I understand that some of the vocational tasks have been outsourced to the civilian side now, but not all. As long as your skills are still operationally useful & needed, they'll call you back - even if you end up as "lobo" 80% of the time. -
Okay.That's assuming these people belong to a comabt unit.What if the C9L2 ppl are Specialists and belong to a Logistics/Maintenance unit?Originally posted by Moxie:I dunno about nowadays but there was no grey area with the C9L2 personnel in my reservist arty unit. They inprocessed along with the main body, then was basically confined to camp when the unit moved out to the field. Most of them just stayed in the bunks, reporting sporadically to a rear-echelon NCO or the BN office to show that they haven't sneaked elsewhere.
Very switched-off life for them during ICTs, though I've heard 2nd-hand that the cooks also moved out sometimes (for a field-kitchen delpoyment) & the S1 cell too (for a field-administrative tent). Even the armourers got bored & volunteered to travel with the MT-line repair vehicle ....
I understand that some of the vocational tasks have been outsourced to the civilian side now, but not all. As long as your skills are still operationally useful & needed, they'll call you back - even if you end up as "lobo" 80% of the time. -
Okay.That's assuming these people belong to a comabt unit.What if the C9L2 ppl are Specialists and belong to a Logistics/Maintenance unit?
You're an Armamant Spec, aren't you? No idea, esp. with NCOs. The men theselves could be converted to PDF troopers; I've heard of a lot of non-combat NSFs (PTIs, MPs, ammo storemen. et al.) who made the switch after ORD.
I've even got a couple of ex-ammo storemen who became Arty RPs with my old reservist outfit. (Busy duties, but not as siong as the uninitiated assumes.) Lemme know if I'm wrong; the worst you'll be is being put on a holding list. -
Reservist vocation can wait till ORD but whereter i get posted out to another unit after recourse BMT is the most important thing. If i kena posted out then i will have to start from 'xin jiao' then to 'lao jiao'. If you guys know what i mean.....
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Your PES is perm right?
So even you go for recourse you are still perm PES C right? Then no need to worry, ususally they would not post ppl out just for BMT recourse for PES C ppl.
Besides, you already with the unit for sometime already. It makes not sense if you are post out after the recourse.
FYI: My unit last time got ppl same scenario as yours who are PES A/B, drop out of BMT due to injury, but got a perm PES C, go for BMT recourse and come back do back the same vocation. Kind of like on-course kind of thing.
BUT, (ha, there is always a "but"
), if your PES is upgraded, then not only you might change unit, might also change in vocation. -
I heard of some Armt Techs who were LCP and below were converted to base RPs.Most of my seniors are still coming back as Armt Specs so I hope nothing changes too greatly.Originally posted by Moxie:You're an Armamant Spec, aren't you? No idea, esp. with NCOs. The men theselves could be converted to PDF troopers; I've heard of a lot of non-combat NSFs (PTIs, MPs, ammo storemen. et al.) who made the switch after ORD.
I've even got a couple of ex-ammo storemen who became Arty RPs with my old reservist outfit. (Busy duties, but not as siong as the uninitiated assumes.) Lemme know if I'm wrong; the worst you'll be is being put on a holding list. -
nowadays arma tech minimum is CPL, no LCP.Originally posted by LazerLordz:I heard of some Armt Techs who were LCP and below were converted to base RPs.Most of my seniors are still coming back as Armt Specs so I hope nothing changes too greatly.
super old reservists i dunno lah, see the uncles some no rank, some their rank like funny shape never see before one. -
Me already perm PES C9L2 liao, in what ways will they upgrade my PES statusOriginally posted by octega:Your PES is perm right?
So even you go for recourse you are still perm PES C right? Then no need to worry, ususally they would not post ppl out just for BMT recourse for PES C ppl.
Besides, you already with the unit for sometime already. It makes not sense if you are post out after the recourse.
FYI: My unit last time got ppl same scenario as yours who are PES A/B, drop out of BMT due to injury, but got a perm PES C, go for BMT recourse and come back do back the same vocation. Kind of like on-course kind of thing.
BUT, (ha, there is always a "but" ), if your PES is upgraded, then not only you might change unit, might also change in vocation.
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Wrong.My colleagues are LCP.There are different vocation codes.Its either ARMT SPEC TECH 45/50, or ARMT TECH 25.Originally posted by nismoS132:nowadays arma tech minimum is CPL, no LCP.
super old reservists i dunno lah, see the uncles some no rank, some their rank like funny shape never see before one. -
I heard of some Armt Techs who were LCP and below were converted to base RPs.Most of my seniors are still coming back as Armt Specs so I hope nothing changes too greatly.
IMO Bit more ambiguous with you & other similar technical vocations, plus - as said - you're a NCO as well.
With ryangian it's a simpler deal, cuz signals is combat (regardless of individual PES status). Combat & service-side people are "easier" to assign for reservist stints, without needing a formal induction like for converting technical vocationalists. -
If you perm then don't worry. Those with Temp PES status are the lot that ususally worry about this.Originally posted by ryangian:Me already perm PES C9L2 liao, in what ways will they upgrade my PES status
thanks a lot for all the replies
FYI: There was also a personnel who was Temp PES E when he first enlisted, went through the PES E induction at Tekong then post to my unit But he suay suay kenna upgraded to PES A/B after Medical board.
That time he was already with our unit for about 1 year already. Once he is upgraded, he was sent back to Tekong for the normal BMT. Then post to other unit, last heard he is a rifleman.
But then again, since you are perm PES, you most likely go back to the same unit (as laojiao) after your recourse BMT. The bad thing is the botak hair cut only.