Old Rank Insignia Designs of SAF in the past good old days
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Ranks of servicemen in uniformed services
The ranks of servicemen in the uniformed services of the Singapore Armed Forces, in order of seniority, shall be as follows:
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General/Admiral
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Lieutenant-General/Vice Admiral
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Major-General/Rear Admiral (Two-Star)
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Brigadier-General/Rear Admiral (One-Star)/ME8 (Military Expert 8)
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Colonel/ME7 (Military Expert 7)
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Senior Lieutenant-Colonel
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Lieutenant-Colonel/ME6 (Military Expert 6)
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Major/ME5 (Military Expert 5)
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Captain/ME4 (Military Expert 4)
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Lieutenant
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Second Lieutenant
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Chief Warrant Officer
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Senior Warrant Officer
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Master Warrant Officer
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First Warrant Officer/ME3 (Military Expert 3)
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Second Warrant Officer
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Third Warrant Officer
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Master Sergeant/ME2 (Military Expert 2)
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Staff Sergeant
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First Sergeant
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Second Sergeant/ME1 (Military Expert 1)
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Third Sergeant
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Corporal (First Class)
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Corporal
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Lance-Corporal
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Private (First Class)
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Private
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Recruit. -
wa, all officer ranks
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i wonder how does old warrant ranks looks like
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Looks a little like the current SPF rank system
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the old navy rank insignia used the thick and thin stripes system that is still used in many navies around the world, including the USN and the RN. CAn find any pictures of them online, but they can be seen in the navy museum.
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oh, 2WO rank is a crab like a MAJ but worn on the sleeve. More senior warrants have laurels surrounding their crab. Saw this in an old book on the SAF.Originally posted by dibilo:i wonder how does old warrant ranks looks like -
from armynewsInteractive
A Promotion from Our Past
At the heart of every military is its rank structure, a chain of command that is crucial to ensure discipline, execution and ultimately the effectiveness of the armed force. The rank structure may also be a reflection of the armyÂ’s size and sophistication, evolving as the army transforms.
STARS OF THE PAST
In Our Army, there used to be just a few ranks. Section Commanders at that time had a rank of Corporal, and attaining a Sergeant rank conferred some seniority. Certain promotions could take as long as ten years, making each promotion a long-awaited one.
Also very different in those days were the ranks worn by Officers and Warrant Officers. Lieutenants and Captains had diamond stars on the epaulettes, each embossed with a cross cut circle on which are emblazoned a crescent and five stars. Majors had one crest, but upon promotion, instead of gaining additional crests, they had stars added to their ranks – hence a Colonel would have one crest and two stars. Generals would have different combinations of stars, crests and a new symbol, a gold-crossed Chinese broadsword and kris surrounded by a laurel wreath, to mark their rank.
Warrant Officers at that time wore their rank on their right wrist. They also had a slightly different design for their rank, with Class I Warrant officers having an additional laurel wreath surrounding their crest.
1982: NEW UNIFORMS, NEW BADGES
As the SAF introduced new uniforms for all three Services in 1982, the ranks themselves were changed. Replacing the more embellished diamonds and swords were simple bars for the Lieutenants and Captains, and genuine stars for the Generals. It was then, also, that female service personnel started wearing their miniature anodised rank insignias on their collars.
1992: REVAMPING THE NCO CORPS
In 1992, there was a revamp in the rank structure of the Non-Commissioned Officer (NCO) Corps. Where once the route of advancement went from Sergeant, Staff Sergeant to Warrant Officer Classes II and I, intermediate ranks were introduced and now there were nine different ranks from 3rd Sergeant to Senior Warrant Officer.
The reasons for this change was to acknowledge that NCOs formed the backbone of the Army, and to take into account the higher educational level of NCOs, which translated into greater job responsibilities and higher pay. With more ranks, and with each promotion meriting an increment, the new structure would give the NCOs something to look forward to every three or four years, instead of the eight to ten years previously. In the same year, a school to run the Joint Warrant Officer Course (JWOC) was set up to teach senior Specialists military-related subjects like military history, military law, and computer skills. This was in recognition of the new responsibilities of the NCO Corps in the army.
Furthermore, Warrant Officers would now display their ranks on the epaulettes, as opposed to their sleeves.
Today we have clear routes of advancement for both the Officer and Warrant Officer and Specialist Corps, and a simple progression in badges of rank. Yet all the intermediate ranks have not dimmed the significance of each promotion; each new rank comes with responsibilities, respect, and a highly decorated past of days gone by. -
1 stripe - 2LTOriginally posted by react81:the old navy rank insignia used the thick and thin stripes system that is still used in many navies around the world, including the USN and the RN. CAn find any pictures of them online, but they can be seen in the navy museum.
1 stripe 1 thin stripe - LTA
2 stripes - CPT
1 thin stripe between 2 stripes - MAJ
3 stripes - LTC
4 stripes - COL
1 thick (2inch) strip / Foul Anchor and 1 Star - Commodore
1 thick (2inch) strip 1 stripe / Foul Achor and 2 Stars - RADM
1 thick (2inch) strip 2 stripes / Foul Achor and 3 Star - VADM
Something like this??
I remember seeing something (the pictures of Naval officers wearing these)like this in Pioneer b4...haiz, too bad no space to keep them had to throw them during house moving...
Let me search for USN insignia..
I remember reading this book abt the SAF called "Fighting Fit" (very long time ago) and there was a brief decription of this rank called "Corporal First Class"...anyone saw this as well? -
yes, thats it. in the USN, its:
1 thick (stripe): ensign
1 thick, 1 thin: Lieutanent Junior Grade
2 thick: lieutanent
2 thick, 1 thin: lieutanent commander
3 thick: commander
4 thick: captain
1 broad stripe: rear admiral (lower half)
1 broad plus 1 thick :rear admiral (upper half)
1 broad plus 2 thick: vice admiral
1 broad plus 3 thick: admiral
1 brooad plus 4 thick: admiral of the fleet -
Ah yes, I have the book at home.. corporal first class is 2 stripes with a horizontal stripe on top. At that time even privates wear ranks, a horizontal stripe on their sleeves.Originally posted by Kaczynski:I remember reading this book abt the SAF called "Fighting Fit" (very long time ago) and there was a brief decription of this rank called "Corporal First Class"...anyone saw this as well?
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yup, last time we used to have Corporal First Class etc. saw it at the SISPEC heritage centre in tekong. back then CPLs were the section commanders.
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Yes, anybody still remember CPL ONG from "Army Daze"?Originally posted by Gordonator:yup, last time we used to have Corporal First Class etc. saw it at the SISPEC heritage centre in tekong. back then CPLs were the section commanders. -
unforgetable character sia!Originally posted by Kaczynski:Yes, anybody still remember CPL ONG from "Army Daze"?
i'll never that line he said during field camp to the PC
"When the river flow down from the mountain, it will form a pond. and then there will be fish." (something like that, the way he say it, it was so funny!) -
regarding the CPL 1st class rank. i forgetten how it correctly look like, can any1 help? is the the 1st design or 2nd one?Originally posted by cornyfish2000:Ah yes, I have the book at home.. corporal first class is 2 stripes with a horizontal stripe on top. At that time even privates wear ranks, a horizontal stripe on their sleeves. -
It's the first one (left).. and the top horizontal stripe is in contact with the 2 chevrons. hiya too bad my scanner isn't working otherwise i'd like to scan in the old warrant ranks too from my book..Originally posted by Gordonator:regarding the CPL 1st class rank. i forgetten how it correctly look like, can any1 help? is the the 1st design or 2nd one? -
i'll really love to see the old warrant officers ranks. is there any way he can get it scan in? in school or friends' house?Originally posted by cornyfish2000:hiya too bad my scanner isn't working otherwise i'd like to scan in the old warrant ranks too from my book..
btw, where u buy the book? -
Theres a book commemorating the Army Logistics formation years.I believe the old warrant ranks are inside.
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Ok... Finally managed to scan it in.. anyway can anyone tell me how can i post the picture here?
The book was bought long long ago by my dad at some bookshop clearance sale.. -
i don't see it.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Theres a book commemorating the Army Logistics formation years.I believe the old warrant ranks are inside. -
u will need to get the pic hosted on a website 1st. then press "alt+p" put in the URL of the pic and press "alt+p" again.Originally posted by cornyfish2000:Ok... Finally managed to scan it in.. anyway can anyone tell me how can i post the picture here?
The book was bought long long ago by my dad at some bookshop clearance sale.. -
is it something like this?Originally posted by cornyfish2000:oh, 2WO rank is a crab like a MAJ but worn on the sleeve. More senior warrants have laurels surrounding their crab. Saw this in an old book on the SAF.
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Old SAF ranks:
1) Warrant Officer (Second Class)
2) Warrant Officer (First Class)
3) Senior Warrant Officer
4) Corporal (First Class)
Ok, hope this appears fine..
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hey guys, can you all see the picture of the ranks i've posted above? cos it appeared fine when i posted it just now but now when i see it again the pic appears corrupted..
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can only see 1.
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why don't u try this online picture hosting site. this should do the trick.Originally posted by cornyfish2000:hey guys, can you all see the picture of the ranks i've posted above? cos it appeared fine when i posted it just now but now when i see it again the pic appears corrupted..
http://www.picturesky.com