NS Physical Training Phase PTP
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Bloody hell, what is SAF trying to do now. The new PT training syllabus makes one super shagged even before the actual training starts.
basically.. the new PT syllabus includes, Weights drill, Combat PT, Modified Warm-up, modified 5BX. climbing drill, 275m Shuttle run, etc
Just finished my new PT training package.... sprained my back in the process. haha.
anyway.. it is "scientifically proven" to be more effective form of PT than the past circuit training/gym combo.
THey used 3SIR for studies and results were encouraging.
December intake recruits onwards will be on this new syllabus. -
Hmmm..
Any more insight into who actually did this?
Could be useful to me...
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i heard that now instructors cannot tekan/punish the recruits with no more then 10 push ups...
is this true?
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So is this good news or bad news???
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Thought 20??Originally posted by Gordonator:i heard that now instructors cannot tekan/punish the recruits with no more then 10 push ups...
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Hahaha..If this is true...sighhhOriginally posted by Gordonator:i heard that now instructors cannot tekan/punish the recruits with no more then 10 push ups...
is this true?
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Interesting...Care to shed more light on this new PT stuff?
Push-Ups limited to 10 now?Anyway, they've always been very creative at playing around that rule for a long time. -
Originally posted by deathscythe99:Thought 20??
in any case 10 or 20 is nothing compare to the old time many of us lao jiao went through. -
Originally posted by Gordonator:
in any case 10 or 20 is nothing compare to the old time many of us lao jiao went through. 
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are we gettingmore pampered? even those excuse can do ard 10-20 push ups/pull-up
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Of course...Originally posted by duotiga83:are we gettingmore pampered? even those excuse can do ard 10-20 push ups/pull-up -
scare parents complain so dare not tekan them?
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Welfare, dah.
I lost 30 lb. in Tekong as part of the obese platoon in '86. That's before they introduced the Modified BMT thing; what we did was basically ran & ran from 6:30-7:30 every morning when other recruits were eating breakfast/clearing bowels/doing area-cleaning.
At my unit, I was also part of a group that kena run SOC every morning for 4 months too. -
WTF...... 10 to 20 push ups only?!?!?!
We're training soldiers, for goodness sake, not a bunch of wimps.
I can't believe I'm saying this.... but in my time, doing 50 or 60 was the norm, not the exception. 100++ push ups were mercifully rare, but not unheard of.....
Drats... I'm only 21.... I'm not THAT far removed from the present batch of NSFs, am I?
Come on, SAF, surely you can't reduce your standards that low?!?! I know that with all these tragedies in the SAF safety is of paramount importance, but surely not to the point where training standards are so badly compromised?!?!
At this rate, how are we going to train good soldiers?
Just before I ORD-ed, I came across some new soldiers just out of BMT posted to my unit. They still had the civillian midset.... Whine openly when asked to do chores, whine at 'not enough welfare' (when they got more welfare than I ever got at their stage), whine at being stuck in the Army while their girlfriends went to uni (come on, I had to go through that as well!) and so on....
Considering the level of training they had during BMT, I guess I shouldn't be surprised. -
hahaha. 20 push-ups... LOL... ez life huh? sap sap water.
last time pushup counts always drop back to zero count again, push-up/sit-up position change, blah blah, do until the whole area FLOODED WITH OUR SWEAT and I'm NOT JOKING. I can see POOLS of SWEAT after our tekan session, underwear wet wet (song to go along wif it ). i see those pools of 'water' I must say that I'm really amazed
oh well, times are changing juz hope less people get injured, or better yet, no one gets hurt during their NS. 
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Well, I'm 21 too.I was from an obese Coy and I must say that yes, 20 push-ups were the limit.But if different people come along and give their own limit, that makes quite a lot.We did approximately 100 per day.IF we couldn't do it, we still tried our very best.Physical training with proper guidance is not harmful but instead beneficial.I lost 15 kg when I OOCed.Tough training is unpleasant, but if we as humans only care for comfort,we are no more than silly putty in a tub.Grey, pasty and soft.Wobbles at the slightest pressure and Darwin's theory would make us pretty extinct soon.Come on, push yourself.I'm all for realistic physical training as long as the intsructors are professional about it.Originally posted by fudgester:WTF...... 10 to 20 push ups only?!?!?!
We're training soldiers, for goodness sake, not a bunch of wimps.
I can't believe I'm saying this.... but in my time, doing 50 or 60 was the norm, not the exception. 100++ push ups were mercifully rare, but not unheard of.....
Drats... I'm only 21.... I'm not THAT far removed from the present batch of NSFs, am I?
Come on, SAF, surely you can't reduce your standards that low?!?! I know that with all these tragedies in the SAF safety is of paramount importance, but surely not to the point where training standards are so badly compromised?!?!
At this rate, how are we going to train good soldiers?
Just before I ORD-ed, I came across some new soldiers just out of BMT posted to my unit. They still had the civillian midset.... Whine openly when asked to do chores, whine at 'not enough welfare' (when they got more welfare than I ever got at their stage), whine at being stuck in the Army while their girlfriends went to uni (come on, I had to go through that as well!) and so on....
Considering the level of training they had during BMT, I guess I shouldn't be surprised. -
Well....who told SAF to reduce to 2 years only?
And look @ the questions ard here raging regarding NS life even before they step in ... -
recruit life is getter better and better that's for sure.
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Recruit's life is getting better all right... Higher pay (I was the last batch to get paid $240), more welfare, shortened NSF liability (they cut my ORD by two months when I was clearing leave anyway.... $1400 down the drainOriginally posted by Gordonator:recruit life is getter better and better that's for sure. 
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But at what cost? I seriously think that the fitness, discipline, and potential lethality of our soldiers is going to be compromised thanks to all these fantastic ideas by whoever-is-in-charge at SAF....
When the sh*t hits the fan.... can we expect the current generation of soldiers to maim and kill other young men when we can't even expect them to do more than twenty push ups?
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haha... i belonged to the $240/mth generation too... erm... and with the full 21/2 yrs...Originally posted by fudgester:Recruit's life is getting better all right... Higher pay (I was the last batch to get paid $240), more welfare, shortened NSF liability (they cut my ORD by two months when I was clearing leave anyway.... $1400 down the drain ).
But at what cost? I seriously think that the fitness, discipline, and potential lethality of our soldiers is going to be compromised thanks to all these fantastic ideas by whoever-is-in-charge at SAF....
When the sh*t hits the fan.... can we expect the current generation of soldiers to maim and kill other young men when we can't even expect them to do more than twenty push ups?
My two cents.... Feel free to flame me if you want.....
Unfortunately that's life... army life is getting better and better no doubt, and BMTC is becoming more and more the seaside resort it is already known to be..
But i must say this 10 pushups thing is ridiculous lah, if its true then it'll only be a matter of time before they abolish confinements and extra duties.. -
wah 275m shuttle run!
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Shed more light on this???
Well... basically there are 2 kinds of warming up exercises now.
1 is modified standard SAF warm-up. Basically has same "principle" like the old one just that now got "vertical-jump" -like type of training. then got jogging on the spot.
2 is Combat PT 1 & 2. Combat PT is for warming up before "combat"-type training like SOC. its 10 different types of warm ups which includes "traditional" things like push up, crunches. but alot of back strecthing. then there will be 100m shuttle run and 100m of "sprinting with small steps but each step should not exceed your other toe and leg raised to 90 degrees"
Combat PT 2 is done AFTER the combat type activity.. dun remember the list off hand... if i am not wrong it involves some assisted pull ups.
Gym and circuit training is now phased out. Replaced by weights training. trainees with have a set of 3, 4 or 5kg weights.
ET runs are replaced by ability group runs. this is when there are no fixed distance but trainees will be asked to run progressively at 15, 20, 30 minutes at the pace they would run 2.4km to pass.
k.... why this PT was implemented is because they noticed that progress thru the old syllabus is not encouraging and slow. most of the improvement is done by trainee's own initiatives or RT.
So a group of PTIs along with PE researchers (people with related academic expertise) along with ADF, G6, ATEC, SPT studied the mechanics of human body and designed a new pt sylaabus to suit better the shorter NS stinit. -
Hmmm sounds interesting!
Doesn't seems tough to me too... -
interesting and weird.Originally posted by Ponders:Shed more light on this???
Well... basically there are 2 kinds of warming up exercises now.
1 is modified standard SAF warm-up. Basically has same "principle" like the old one just that now got "vertical-jump" -like type of training. then got jogging on the spot.
2 is Combat PT 1 & 2. Combat PT is for warming up before "combat"-type training like SOC. its 10 different types of warm ups which includes "traditional" things like push up, crunches. but alot of back strecthing. then there will be 100m shuttle run and 100m of "sprinting with small steps but each step should not exceed your other toe and leg raised to 90 degrees"
Combat PT 2 is done AFTER the combat type activity.. dun remember the list off hand... if i am not wrong it involves some assisted pull ups.
Gym and circuit training is now phased out. Replaced by weights training. trainees with have a set of 3, 4 or 5kg weights.
ET runs are replaced by ability group runs. this is when there are no fixed distance but trainees will be asked to run progressively at 15, 20, 30 minutes at the pace they would run 2.4km to pass.
k.... why this PT was implemented is because they noticed that progress thru the old syllabus is not encouraging and slow. most of the improvement is done by trainee's own initiatives or RT.
So a group of PTIs along with PE researchers (people with related academic expertise) along with ADF, G6, ATEC, SPT studied the mechanics of human body and designed a new pt sylaabus to suit better the shorter NS stinit.
btw, i think the combat PT is not classified as "warming up" exercises. 100 m shuttle run and sprint for warm-up sounds abit tiring. and combat PT 2, which is done AFTER combat type activities include chin-up?! abit asking for too much? and i don't suppose that can then be classified as cooling down exercise - you would need separate cooling down after chin-ups.
and does it then mean combat PT 1 and 2 will be done in your combat activity attire, i.e. long 4? and combat PT would not be conducted in isolation, but always part of a combat type activity? -
i can understand your feelings man ...my fren enlisted for BMT in Nee Soon Camp's 7 BTS then ..it was hell..if any of the forummers are bte 27 and above, you should recall the PT field , the lampost numbers and the famous of them all ..the PTI called Monkey God ...Originally posted by Moxie:Welfare, dah.
I lost 30 lb. in Tekong as part of the obese platoon in '86. That's before they introduced the Modified BMT thing; what we did was basically ran & ran from 6:30-7:30 every morning when other recruits were eating breakfast/clearing bowels/doing area-cleaning.
At my unit, I was also part of a group that kena run SOC every morning for 4 months too.
Not to mention the Stand by Beds in parade square..