Do they need a passport?

• monkeybusiness

  30 Dec 04, 21:16

  wen those saf personnels are sent to other countries like those who are sent to phuket and medan rite, do dey hav to bring along their passport?
  
  also those who are sent for joint-exercises
  
  *just curious
• ditzy

  30 Dec 04, 21:17

  Firstly, you must see thier mode of transport. Second, whether they are going in a group or not.
• monkeybusiness

  30 Dec 04, 21:18

  Originally posted by ditzy:

  Firstly, you must see thier mode of transport. Second, whether they are going in a group or not.

  let's say they are going by military transport and dey are leaving in a group? like those who are sent to phuket and medan?
• LoVeMeLoVeMenOt

  30 Dec 04, 21:22

  Well I still remember during my time that was 2002, we have a joint execrise wif the Thai army..We do not need any passports just bring a 11B will do & of cos your air-ticket!
• Zooish

  30 Dec 04, 21:31

  For airforce personnel, i believe MSD (or sum other MINDEF branch) will handle their documents and issue them flight clearance. So, no, i dun think they bring along passport.
• monkeybusiness

  30 Dec 04, 21:36

  Originally posted by Zooish:

  For airforce personnel, i believe MSD (or sum other MINDEF branch) will handle their documents and issue them flight clearance. So, no, i dun think they bring along passport.

  wen dey are going for joint excersies oso?
  
  wat bout navy and army? do dey oso hav a branch to take care of their travel stuff?
• nismoS132

  30 Dec 04, 21:59

  but i tot some ppl is take c130 go there, but back home trip is SQ? then no passport how?
• LoVeMeLoVeMenOt

  30 Dec 04, 22:03

  Originally posted by nismoS132:

  but i tot some ppl is take c130 go there, but back home trip is SQ? then no passport how?

  Hmm do u mean go there means peacekeeping or maybe some ops execrise?
  
  Well for my experience..I took Thai airway to go there & also back home.
• lwflee

  31 Dec 04, 07:53

  Originally posted by nismoS132:

  but i tot some ppl is take c130 go there, but back home trip is SQ? then no passport how?

  Take Civilian airplane does not mean that the soldiers need passports. The airplance is charterd by the SAF and as such, there are only soldiers on board. Therefore, we have the option of disembarking elsewhere other than at the customs.
  
  We're treated kinda like goods actually.
• monkeybusiness

  31 Dec 04, 21:56

  Originally posted by lwflee:

  Take Civilian airplane does not mean that the soldiers need passports. The airplance is charterd by the SAF and as such, there are only soldiers on board. Therefore, we have the option of disembarking elsewhere other than at the customs.
  
  We're treated kinda like goods actually.

  so tat means no passport required?
  tat's something nice...cos dun hav to worry bout losing any travel documents
• lwflee

  31 Dec 04, 23:35

  Yes - No need.
• sgboy2004

  31 Dec 04, 23:36

  11B?
• Temujin

  31 Dec 04, 23:43

  All travel document will be done by one of the G branch.
  
  No passport is needed unless it is a last minute addition.
  
  The SQ flight are chartered. I remember that the sterward and stewardess had to stay for the night in Rockhampton, Australia as the next morning their plane was from Brisbane to Singapore.
  
  HTH.
• Moxie

  1 Jan 05, 17:57

  I believe they travel "by nominal roll", since I saw none of the troops carrying civilian bags during the news clip.
  
  Traditionally, it's the same for the main body of units who go for Ex Lancer or Starlight or Crescendo. The commuting process, by my experience, could be quite rigid: consolidation of Ali Baba bags, form up inside camp, load up into 3-tonner's or buses, & then drive to the embarking area.
  
  At Changi Airport, it was via Loyang & through a back gate for me - which meant that, on the return trip, the SAF had their MPs setting up tables along the road at 3am to check for contraband! (Subjected to guard dogs sniffing for illegal stuff too.)
• Temujin

  1 Jan 05, 18:57

  Negative now the troops from overseas go through the front gate.
  
  No more pasar malam near the Changi airport back gate with the post office.
• martin_lim85

  1 Jan 05, 19:04

  they still need their passports
  
  oh ya
  
  11B are NOT suppose to bought overseas
• chengyu

  1 Jan 05, 22:16

  From my experience going to Thailand for Exercise last year, passports were not required for the majority. Boarding passes/tickets were issued at the airport itself.
  
  Flight to and from Singapore was from the main terminal. One piece of hand luggage was allowed.
• martin_lim85

  1 Jan 05, 22:21

  Originally posted by chengyu:

  From my experience going to Thailand for Exercise last year, passports were not required for the majority. Boarding passes/tickets were issued at the airport itself.
  
  Flight to and from Singapore was from the main terminal. One piece of hand luggage was allowed.

  under some certain situation only it may need some may not
• Temujin

  2 Jan 05, 00:51

  Originally posted by martin_lim85:

  they still need their passports
  
  oh ya
  
  11B are NOT suppose to bought overseas

  Did you bring your passport for the overseas detachment, first hand experience or just word of mouth ?
  
  
• LazerLordz

  2 Jan 05, 10:38

  Originally posted by martin_lim85:

  they still need their passports
  
  oh ya
  
  11B are NOT suppose to bought overseas

  You're trying to say that when we go abroad for holidays, we are not allowed to bring our 11B too?
• gnoik

  2 Jan 05, 11:01

  Originally posted by LazerLordz:

  You're trying to say that when we go abroad for holidays, we are not allowed to bring our 11B too?

  Er..that means when we ord we had to keep the smart card in our house?I put inside my wallet all the time..
• lwflee

  2 Jan 05, 11:13

  Originally posted by martin_lim85:

  under some certain situation only it may need some may not

  Not very helpful. Please elaborate.
  
  My personal experience is no need. Even if you are entering through the front gate.
  
  And 11B cannot bring overseas???
  
  
• wuming78

  2 Jan 05, 11:19

  if im not mistaken:
  
  for SAF personnel going overseas on ex, ops, etc (SAF sanctioned activities), SAF would usually not want too much limelight on such tours with already high signatures due to the size of personnel involved. and to address possible sensitivities surrounding such activities, especially to the host countries, personnel are not to bring their 11Bs. some of these trips are conducted under the banner of "education" or "visit", and not overtly as a military trip.
  
  for SAF personnel who travels overseas on his / her own accord, there are no restrictions on bringing our 11Bs. it's no difference from bringing your pink IC when you go for tours.
• Moxie

  2 Jan 05, 14:56

  I think some kind of formal identification is still needed, unless the troops are wholly confined to camp during their overseas stint.
  
  For ROC, I remember my reservist unit organizing temporary (military) ICs for everyone going over, & that meant putting aside time after inprocessing to queue up for photo-taking & stuff. It was during the mid-90s, so I've forgotten whether we specifically exchanged in our 11-B's for them.
  
  For us, the ICs served primarily as gate passes over there, though in reality IMO they weren't all that effective. We were all walking in & out whenever possible, if only to jalan-jalan around the rustic neighborhood (only base personnel phoned for taxis to go to Touliu). I also found their sentry posts to be quite senang: portable barriers as opposed to camp gates, & no sidegate for controlled screening - in fact, the Taiwanese guards were generally unresponsive whenever we flashed the ICs at them (while in our PT kits) from 15, 20 metres away.
• kopiosatu

  6 Jan 05, 06:39

  don't need a passport, but bring along just in case.
  
  need 11b definately and a dog tag.