Got Such Thing: Report Sick in Camp Only. Revoke MO Outside?
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i always thought r.s is a right, not a privileged? at least that's why my sec com in bmt told me. that no matter what the instructors say, we always have the right to report sick if we truely feel we are unwell.
yesterday's CRO had a 1sg who had this rs privileges revoked. exact words. he will be charged if he reports sick whether outside or in camp. only allowed to go to emergency wards, and only during real emergencies. -
Complain! Whoever authorised the CRO will probably be in deep shit if that happened.
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considering the RSM has the power to revoke the rights to wear garrison sandals after office hours, i don't think complaining is going to be of any use.
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some might be malingering when they go report sick. especially those who always report sick outside.
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must someone die before those fu-cked up SAF regulars wake up their idea? Remember Sgt Hu.
It is things like this which makes me feel very sad for SAF the organization... -
yeah i think so too.Originally posted by Gordonator:some might be malingering when they go report sick. especially those who always report sick outside.
now that the precedent has been set, maybe they can finally do something against the slacker in my platoon
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yes reporting sick is a right all servicemen are entitled to.Originally posted by nismoS132:i always thought r.s is a right, not a privileged? at least that's why my sec com in bmt told me. that no matter what the instructors say, we always have the right to report sick if we truely feel we are unwell.
yesterday's CRO had a 1sg who had this rs privileges revoked. exact words. he will be charged if he reports sick whether outside or in camp. only allowed to go to emergency wards, and only during real emergencies.
but in EXCEPTIONAL cases, and usually with the consensus of the commander in concern, it may be decided that the serviceman would only be allowed to report sick in camp (dont think even that is revoked, since reporting sick in camp is rather controlled already). this is unusual and happens only when a serviceman has been found to be persistently taking advantage of reporting sick outside, e.g. doc-hop, taking short mcs outside continually so that he does not need to return to endorse his mc, etc, especially for NSFs who has unlimited medical leave.
in your case, there may be unusual circumstances too. rather than have us speculate here and think the serviceman may be short-changed, why not find out the exact details and let us know here? -
my department full of malingerers, some will once every week will fall sick 1. somemore will always report sick outside. chief clerk been chasing them for their MCs a long time liao. (doubt they even have them). dissappointing.
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Hi wuming78Originally posted by wuming78:yes reporting sick is a right all servicemen are entitled to.
but in EXCEPTIONAL cases, and usually with the consensus of the commander in concern, it may be decided that the serviceman would only be allowed to report sick in camp (dont think even that is revoked, since reporting sick in camp is rather controlled already). this is unusual and happens only when a serviceman has been found to be persistently taking advantage of reporting sick outside, e.g. doc-hop, taking short mcs outside continually so that he does not need to return to endorse his mc, etc, especially for NSFs who has unlimited medical leave.
in your case, there may be unusual circumstances too. rather than have us speculate here and think the serviceman may be short-changed, why not find out the exact details and let us know here?
Is this an official standing order or just a practice? Where is it stated? TSR and TD, dun remember reading it? -
mai tu already
call SAF hotline!!!! -
and another point
if u due to no report sick
then end up fatality
who`s goin to support thier parents???
the CO CSM or RSM????
TMD they all
SAF SUCKS -
This is an outrage.If a person is malingering, you have to find out the underlying reasons and psychological origins of this action.Forbidding him to RSI/RSO is a very fine line that the CO treads on.He is a very risky individual to do this and he's just taking the easy way out.
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Wait a min......
He's a 1SG? So he's a regular right?
I didn't know they play these kinda stunts with the regs too.
Having said that........ the person who implemented this restriction of Reporting Sick is irresponsible. Wonder who's gonna take the fall if anything serious happens to him cos of this...... -
Slackers everywhere...fake reporting sick..
Alot of them abuse the reporting sick function...
Out of my 4 years in NCC, im glad to say that ive reported sick less then 15 times.. -
lol..ncc..happened once onli a long time ago.....had to be carried off the parade square....didnt remember a thing...so much for fasting on that dayOriginally posted by HeckKER:Slackers everywhere...fake reporting sick..
Alot of them abuse the reporting sick function...
Out of my 4 years in NCC, im glad to say that ive reported sick less then 15 times.. -
Hmm... Why the NCC comparison? Does NCC stay in for 5 days every week? I am not defending anyone here, but this is a comparison of apples with oranges. NCC is not the SAF. You should try toning down the edge in your post.
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Anyway...Its understandable why pple in army can chao keng and slack so much..Originally posted by EXCO:Hmm... Why the NCC comparison? Does NCC stay in for 5 days every week? I am not defending anyone here, but this is a comparison of apples with oranges. NCC is not the SAF. You should try toning down the edge in your post.
in NCC as a former seargent..i am used to see almost half the platoon all resting in canteen..
1 dude who reported sick in NCC even turned up in arcade in full uniform after that.. -
We are humans.Humans have flaws, it's how you manage people that counts.The act of forbidding him to report sick might push him down the line to something one day.Originally posted by HeckKER:Anyway...Its understandable why pple in army can chao keng and slack so much..
in NCC as a former seargent..i am used to see almost half the platoon all resting in canteen..
1 dude who reported sick in NCC even turned up in arcade in full uniform after that.. -
there may not be directives and guidelines for these. however, there is always room for commander's discretion.Originally posted by tchiew:Hi wuming78
Is this an official standing order or just a practice? Where is it stated? TSR and TD, dun remember reading it?
as i mentioned, i can only understand if the serviceman was restricted only to reporting sick in camp. i have seriously never heard of anyone being restricted to reporting sick ENTIRELY, and i personally would not agree with that too. hence i said it would be better if we could be perused on the details of the situation, rather than speculate on incomplete information. unless the commander involved has some contingency in place, he is putting himself on the line by barring the serviceman from reporting sick AT ALL. -
Malingering, even at such a young age...Originally posted by HeckKER:Anyway...Its understandable why pple in army can chao keng and slack so much..
in NCC as a former seargent..i am used to see almost half the platoon all resting in canteen..
1 dude who reported sick in NCC even turned up in arcade in full uniform after that.. -
Seriously, a commander dumb enough to do that is not much of a commander.
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All those chao kengs arse holes...
Taking advantage of the reporting sick system...
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dup.
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dup.
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Anything exists.After the Commando debacle, I'm not too shocked when I hear of stupidity and lack of leadership in the army.Originally posted by lwflee:Seriously, a commander dumb enough to do that is not much of a commander.