Warrior Guardsmen FAQ - Guardsman Specialist & Enlisted Men!
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no way. it all depend if there is any intake for GUARDS or any make up needed.Originally posted by StRiKeMaN:How to noe dat we can be selected to join Guards from da way they look at us during bmt??
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errm how does a guards men be selected to be a snipper....btw the snipper traning is siong rite....
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A note of caution to all of you wishing fervently to be Guardsmen.It is not just about the cool factor and the fearsome militaryimage that you see on the advertisments.Danger, and high-risk training is there.Just keep your eyes peeled if you do become one.It's not as easy as you think right now.
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Went to SISPEC, was never referred as an NCO, that wasn't my time. Reckon its GSCC i had taken.Originally posted by Joshua1975:Hazi...
GCC > Guards Conversion Course. That is for man.
GNCC or GSCC > N stand for NCOs and S stand for specialist. NCOs was no longer used, that how GSCC come about.
GOCC > Guards Officer Conversion Course.
When (date) and at where (which camp) did you take your GSCC?
you sure you are a GUARDS Spec.
Watever it is, Guards Conversation Course is a course, are u going to nitpick? -
Chances are i will never go for the course. But my OC, CSM, PC, Sect Cmdrs and Men all call me Platoon Sgt. Btw do give examples of how is it possible that all platoon sgts to be made available to go for the PS course. So what is your problem?Originally posted by Joshua1975:
if did not go for advanced leadership course you are a acting PS, please dun call yourself a Platoon SGT, 1st SGT.
Once again are u going to nitpick? Anyway if it makes u happier....i was never a Guardsman... -
Didn't know of any snipers in 1st Guards in 1996.....or even now.Originally posted by kaka_22:errm how does a guards men be selected to be a snipper....btw the snipper traning is siong rite.... -
anyways............... which div is your unit in now?Which year of ICT?Originally posted by Bejean:Hi guys i served in 1996 8th Mono Intake as a Section Commander cum Company Reconnaissance Team member and i would be pleased to help you with any questions on us, Guards. Since i am only a specialist i wouldn't be answer all things that a officer can but i would do my best.
So anyone interested to know more about us or is going to join us? Muahahahhahaha....
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You were also from 1st Guards Bravo Company?!! I was 8th mono intake...remembered my CSM was SSGT Suresh (with rangers tab). Currently still with 634th Guards.Originally posted by bcoy:anyways............... which div is your unit in now?Which year of ICT?
I used to be from 1st Gds, B Coy - a long, long time ago.
How about you?
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When will dat be usually?Originally posted by Joshua1975:no way. it all depend if there is any intake for GUARDS or any make up needed. -
The Guards Logo
The Wings - These are to represent the Guards' heliborne capabilities.
Bayonet and Laurel - These are symbols of the Guardsmen's superior skills as infantry soldiers.
"Ready to Strike" - This is the motto adopted by the Guards, which is to be ever prepared to strike against the enemy.
Gold - This colour is associated with loyalty (to the nation), devotion (to our duty) and dedication (to the task that has been set before us). -
I was there in 1990. All CSMs, the RSM and CO were commando/SOF, back then.Originally posted by Bejean:You were also from 1st Guards Bravo Company?!! I was 8th mono intake...remembered my CSM was SSGT Suresh (with rangers tab). Currently still with 634th Guards.
How about you?
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nitpick or not depend on how you look at it? if cannot comment anything, than the topic should not be Guardsman FAQ - Especially for Specialist and Men.
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??? it only PS course and why cannot made available to go. it had shorten the course to 3 weeks. each coy had 3 PS and each take turn to go. any problem with that? just for 1 work year, i had all my 3 PS go for the PS course.Originally posted by Bejean:Chances are i will never go for the course. But my OC, CSM, PC, Sect Cmdrs and Men all call me Platoon Sgt. Btw do give examples of how is it possible that all platoon sgts to be made available to go for the PS course. So what is your problem?
Once again are u going to nitpick? Anyway if it makes u happier....i was never a Guardsman...
nitpick??? maybe and no, it never make me any happier even if you say you are just a cook. -
Finished 2 high 3 low, still a long way to go. 1990 was way before my time, u should be 4th or 5th mono intake?Originally posted by bcoy:I was there in 1990. All CSMs, the RSM and CO were commando/SOF, back then.
Which year of ICT are you at?
My 1st CO wasn't from school of CDO, just a regular Guardsman, later 2nd CDO was even from Artillery! My CSM stayed the same, he was originally from Infantry then gotten his Ranger tab and his Guards Beret later. -
Alright, PS Course takes 3 weeks, we are now reservist and we all dun like to go for course. And yes i am very relutant to do so.Originally posted by Joshua1975:??? it only PS course and why cannot made available to go. it had shorten the course to 3 weeks. each coy had 3 PS and each take turn to go. any problem with that? just for 1 work year, i had all my 3 PS go for the PS course.
nitpick??? maybe and no, it never make me any happier even if you say you are just a cook.
Seems that u are an OC? or even a CO, perharps u do not have manpower shortages, but sadly we at 634th are facing this big problem. If they aren't any shortages, i would never be a PS now.
You just don't see the point do u? Instead of asking questions nicely, kindly ask yourself how u started this? -
as memtion, nitpick or not depend on how you look at it? if cannot comment anything, than the topic should not be Guardsman FAQ - Especially for Specialist and Men. more so when relutant to do so.Originally posted by Bejean:Alright, PS Course takes 3 weeks, we are now reservist and we all dun like to go for course. And yes i am very relutant to do so.
Seems that u are an OC? or even a CO, perharps u do not have manpower shortages, but sadly we at 634th are facing this big problem. If they aren't any shortages, i would never be a PS now.
You just don't see the point do u? Instead of asking questions nicely, kindly ask yourself how u started this?
OC? CO? more like the trainer who takan you but too bad, you don't have the previlege to be my trainee.
manpower shortages this show how much you know.
KTHMKK, Guardsman FAQ? -
As expected, typical bullshit crap from you....as found in your other threads.....Originally posted by Joshua1975:as memtion, nitpick or not depend on how you look at it? if cannot comment anything, than the topic should not be Guardsman FAQ - Especially for Specialist and Men. more so when relutant to do so.
OC? CO? more like the trainer who takan you but too bad, you don't have the previlege to be my trainee.
manpower shortages this show how much you know.
KTHMKK, Guardsman FAQ?
MANPOWER SHORTAGES.....11 guys including PC in my platoon now..... -
BejeanSBSKOriginally posted by Bejean:As expected, typical bullshit crap from you....as found in your other threads.....
MANPOWER SHORTAGES.....11 guys including PC in my platoon now.....
KTHMKK
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The Guards Cap Badge Backing
Inaugurated on 6th April 1979, the maroon cap-badge backing with its gold border and 2 bold blue diagonal stripes are the elite symbol for the Guards. It is worn with the SAF cap badge on the beret of every soldier in 7 SIB.
The maroon base symbolises valour, courage, confidence, aggression, the will to endeavour and the Guards' Esprit-de-Corps.
The golden yellow border represents the desire for excellence in training and in overall achievement. It reminds the wearer to place the expectations and demands of the nation before self.
The diagonal stripes signify loyalty to the SAF as well as integrity and dedication expected of the selected few who wear the badge. -
I just finished my ASLC, got posted to 7SIB but got to go for Platoon Sergeant Course first.
Question
1. What does it mean for me? After my platoon sergeant course will I become a PS in Guards so soon? I thought it was always be a good sect comm then get sent to PS course get 2nd SG then become PS.
2. How in the world did they choose me to be in Guards? I'm hardly fit ( IPPT pass! Just PASS! No Silver or Gold!), SOC around 9.30min (heard Guards passing is 9.15min, glup...), no silver bayonet....
3. What would happen if I fail the Guards Conversion Course? Will I be sent to other units? Or re-course?
I'm getting really freaked out by my posting, please help, thank you! -
yup. it means you will become the NSF PS, and to hold the position of the reservist PS after you ORD. you may not become a PS immediately - you may become second to a regular PS, or understudy a current PS. due to the compressed ns duration, we do not have the luxury of having all our PSs come from men and sect comd tours.Originally posted by jzzy011561s:I just finished my ASLC, got posted to 7SIB but got to go for Platoon Sergeant Course first.
Question
1. What does it mean for me? After my platoon sergeant course will I become a PS in Guards so soon? I thought it was always be a good sect comm then get sent to PS course get 2nd SG then become PS.
2. How in the world did they choose me to be in Guards? I'm hardly fit ( IPPT pass! Just PASS! No Silver or Gold!), SOC around 9.30min (heard Guards passing is 9.15min, glup...), no silver bayonet....
3. What would happen if I fail the Guards Conversion Course? Will I be sent to other units? Or re-course?
I'm getting really freaked out by my posting, please help, thank you!
the selection of personnel to a certain combat arm is largely from factors other than fitness though a minimum standard of that is required. afterall, fitness can be trained.
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no offend, in order to cut cost or for whatever reasons, SAF has degraded it WOSE quality.Originally posted by jzzy011561s:I just finished my ASLC, got posted to 7SIB but got to go for Platoon Sergeant Course first.
Question
1. What does it mean for me? After my platoon sergeant course will I become a PS in Guards so soon? I thought it was always be a good sect comm then get sent to PS course get 2nd SG then become PS.
2. How in the world did they choose me to be in Guards? I'm hardly fit ( IPPT pass! Just PASS! No Silver or Gold!), SOC around 9.30min (heard Guards passing is 9.15min, glup...), no silver bayonet....
3. What would happen if I fail the Guards Conversion Course? Will I be sent to other units? Or re-course?
I'm getting really freaked out by my posting, please help, thank you!
i had come across a few PS just like your case who was send to PS course right after SISPEC/ASLC and take over PS role right away when back in unit. SAD. Platoon SGT are Platoon 2nd in comd. He need to be well verse in his job. In short, tons of experience.
Just one example, to carry out a area defence, what must he do before, during and after? If he has not done any as a sect comd, how is he going to do it well as a PS?
One more point, time spend with man. From what I see, hear and feel. These PS dun really get much respect like what 'we' get in the past. They dun get the command and respect much from the man. Reason are they are not steady (buey zai) be it in command and control or people management.
Most regular PS in the past work their way up from sect comd tour which lasted 2 years and some even longer as they went over to support coy as sect comd.
Well, all this comes down to the retaining of manpower as SAF cannot retain 'us' in the past, even today people are leaving. To fill up the vacum, steps are skip.
NCOs are the backbone of any and every ARMY. Till today in US ARMY, any new commission officer post to a unit, he need to under study his Platoon SGT for as long as 6mths before he take over command. That can oni happen in a regular ARMY and we are not. Still it sad to see this is happening in SAF.
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SAD... compressed NS duration... in the beginning NS was oni 2 years, we just move back that all.Originally posted by wuming78:yup. it means you will become the NSF PS, and to hold the position of the reservist PS after you ORD. you may not become a PS immediately - you may become second to a regular PS, or understudy a current PS. due to the compressed ns duration, we do not have the luxury of having all our PSs come from men and sect comd tours.
the selection of personnel to a certain combat arm is largely from factors other than fitness though a minimum standard of that is required. afterall, fitness can be trained.
if you fail GCC, likely that you will recourse.
it really defeat the purpose of NS if the unit is ineffective to carry out orders. my last tour was in ATEC and i had witness how ineffective it was. PC down, PS not sure what to do, man sit around waiting for order. Hey war over. -
Are platoon sergents fulltime NS men now? When I was doing my NS, the platoon sergents were all regulars, with at least one tour (2 years) as a section commander before promoted to platoon sergent. Some of them had signed on after their NS - meaning they had served 2 years as men, 2 years as section commander, before serving platoon sergents.
Platoon sergents are very important and are the backbone of the platoon. They are the most experienced guys that keep things going. Even the platoon commanders learn from them.
Some of the better units trained all their men to take over should the commanders go down.
Somehow - I feel standards have dropped.
The Israeli army guys serve 3 years, and that includes operational duties. Yet their system is the opposite of ours - all serve as men for the first year, the best are chosen for NCO positions in the second year. And from the NCOs - the best are chosen as officers. All their leaders have at least some experience as solders first. -
you meant NSF? mostly yes, almost all PL SGT are NSF now.Originally posted by bcoy:Are platoon sergents fulltime NS men now? When I was doing my NS, the platoon sergents were all regulars, with at least one tour (2 years) as a section commander before promoted to platoon sergent. Some of them had signed on after their NS - meaning they had served 2 years as men, 2 years as section commander, before serving platoon sergents.
Platoon sergents are very important and are the backbone of the platoon. They are the most experienced guys that keep things going. Even the platoon commanders learn from them.
Some of the better units trained all their men to take over should the commanders go down.
Somehow - I feel standards have dropped.
The Israeli army guys serve 3 years, and that includes operational duties. Yet their system is the opposite of ours - all serve as men for the first year, the best are chosen for NCO positions in the second year. And from the NCOs - the best are chosen as officers. All their leaders have at least some experience as solders first.
the advancing/career path for regular NCO has cut short in order to fill up the vacuum. some dun even do the sect comd tour at all.
you will be vey SAD if you see them doing defend, example for obstacle setting. they dun even know how a proper triple con was to be set up and not to memtion flare and other rountine that need to be carry out in a defend.
during movement just 'balonglong' like a man. during an attack, fail to control/assit the PC from the rear ie to say push/motivate the man and the worst, PC down he cannot take over command.
it getting worst as this had happen for some years and some of the 'regular' had since become a CSM.