CAn singapore really defend itself??
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No way.But it can cause quite some damage and this will help in detering any potential enemies.
Hey,singapore is so small,a few bombs here and there,thats the end.Plus,we do not have any natural resources,except people. -
ever notice how all combat camps are located along the borders?
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It's just a waste of money, but PAC-III can shoot down planes as wellsOriginally posted by LazerLordz:Which comes to why we are looking at ABM options like the Arrow, Patriot PAC-3 and the S-300 system.(ADJ Yearbook2005)
Anyway, I do hope we have a contingency plan in place should these kinds of threats start to evolve. -
Use your arc of fire sticks to poke that guy...Originally posted by one-niner:hmm not over yet, u still got to use your bayonet or fighting knife and knife everyone then use your ET blade to whack ppl, then once your exhusated, then your allowed to die if Heaven deems fit your able to die. if not we will fight the oceans,seas, we will fight the mountains and hills, but we shall never die .. -
before we talk about war... ever wondered why we would be even attacked?
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ppl would think twice to whack sg lor
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Agree!! Our defence policy is to tell our friendly neighbours that any war will be fought in their country, not in SG soil. All the damanges will be done in their homeland not ours. I believe that they knew our strategies and intend. So there is peace with our neighbours. In any case, we all want to make money not war!Originally posted by Rockhound:ppl would think twice to whack sg lor
As for other regional power, I'm more worried of Japan as their Navy & Airforce are very powerful. China's strength is in their missiles, it will take them another 5-10 years before they can project their Navy & airforce to SEA. -
I would think that Japan is less likely to pick a fight here than China, but as our RSAF and RSN have shown, it is better to build up a capability to fight in the South China Sea and northwards instead of letting the battle trickle down to the straits should be ever come under any attack.Originally posted by 84mmrr:Agree!! Our defence policy is to tell our friendly neighbours that any war will be fought in their country, not in SG soil. All the damanges will be done in their homeland not ours. I believe that they knew our strategies and intend. So there is peace with our neighbours. In any case, we all want to make money not war!
As for other regional power, I'm more worried of Japan as their Navy & Airforce are very powerful. China's strength is in their missiles, it will take them another 5-10 years before they can project their Navy & airforce to SEA.
KC-135Rs and Blk52+ Vipers are considered offensive strike capabilities..remember that we are jumping from A4 Skyhawks to the Rafale or the Strike Eagle. -
Anyone remember the incident whereby Indonesia conducted a paratrooper dropping during our National day, a few year back?
BTW, idwar sound like Anwar lolx
Singapore cannot initiate a war
Someone in the North or the South, definitely have to do the kick off
The most dangerous country now i probably China and Korea(to the world) Indonesia (to singapore)
Last time we have got the Axis forces.... will China, Korea and Russia come together in near future?
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It was a joint exercise initiated by M'sia & conducted in Johor. That was 1991. The airdrop, juz 18km away from S'pore, was codenamed Pukul Habis (Malay for 'Total Wipeout')Originally posted by OldAhPek:
Anyone remember the incident whereby Indonesia conducted a paratrooper dropping during our National day, a few year back?
Mindef responded by mobilising the armour unit. I was told that Cdo also patrolled the shores facing north. -
woah.. thts interesting.. any idea where i can get more info on this incident?
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Interesting that you should mention a unified Korea as a threat to the world.It does seem that the current Roh administration is not a very keen fan of the US defence umbrella, with respect to how the latter views and engages North Korea.Originally posted by OldAhPek:
Anyone remember the incident whereby Indonesia conducted a paratrooper dropping during our National day, a few year back?
BTW, idwar sound like Anwar lolx
Singapore cannot initiate a war
Someone in the North or the South, definitely have to do the kick off
The most dangerous country now i probably China and Korea(to the world) Indonesia (to singapore)
Last time we have got the Axis forces.... will China, Korea and Russia come together in near future?
Hmmm......
Currently, I would list the East Asian crisis as the largest threat to Singapore and her neighbours. -
As understands from our Encik at SOA in 1993, during that time, the armour vehicles were already formed up ................ rounds were chambered into the Browning 0.5" HMG.......waiting for orders to fire.......Originally posted by 84mmrr:It was a joint exercise initiated by M'sia & conducted in Johor. That was 1991. The airdrop, juz 18km away from S'pore, was codenamed Pukul Habis (Malay for 'Total Wipeout')
Mindef responded by mobilising the armour unit. I was told that Cdo also patrolled the shores facing north.
Luckily when stand-down, no one mis-fires.........
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Well,could the troop movements have been masked in the sense that the troops get transported across the border through our checkpoints in platoon sizes in containers,trucks etc.and get transported across the immigration checkpoints.And if they were compromised,they can shoot their way out.
But then again...I strongly belief that our armoured units can overrun that of our Nothern counterpart.Besides look at our airforce...we wll gain air supremacy in a matter of hours.
So yes,I'm sure we can defend ourselves but then again...we must not be overly complacent.Perhaps SAF can put units at the sea ports and borders too just to be doubly sure. -
oh , i remember !
During that period of time , no wonder there was a huge mobilisation , saw F-16 A/Bs though -
Originally posted by SpecOps87:
I cant remember which Malaysia Leader said that
......Besides look at our airforce...we wll gain air supremacy in a matter of hours....
"If You shoot, high chance your missles will hit the trees"
not exactly, but somthing like that
what he say is true leh... lolx...
If we do air raid on their administratives buildings and wipe them off one shot, then good la
If they all hide in jungles
dig deeep deeep underground command centres
then got planes also no use already.
my CO once said (during one of my exercise)
Dont worry... infantry wont so fast die one
before we charge in, we will call for arti,
if they hide in hill/mountains,
our arti will level it
lolx... tamade
now when i think back, think my CO is a joker
Long jiao wei...
Bombs dont need $$ to buy one arh?
Not water bombs and plastic bags leh
So easy, US would have won in Tora Bora (that mountain fortress Osama's suppose to be hiding) -
Either way , guided munitions have reduced the need for weapons such as SAR-21 .
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Some foreign websites that say we are doing fine in our defence:
Contemporary Security Challenges in Southeast Asia
http://carlisle-www.army.mil/usawc/Parameters/97spring/dillon.htm
SAF's training in Shoalwater Bay Training Area
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200506/s1396010.htm
Comments on RSN with the support of RSAF
http://navyleag.customer.netspace.net.au/fc_07ros.htm
What MAF ex-general said about SAF in 4 Feb 2002.
Water dispute can lead to war: Ex-general
RETIRED Malaysian army general Zaini Mohamed Said has said that the dispute over water supply is the 'most serious' among potential regional threats to Malaysia, as it could lead to a military conflict with Singapore.
The issue must be handled carefully by leaders from both sides as such a conflict must be avoided as it would only cause losses, the former army field commander said in an article published in the Malay-language Mingguan Malaysia newspaper yesterday.
In an article in the Penulis Tamu or Guest Writer column, he said there were a number of issues between nations in the region that could threaten the security of Malaysia as a sovereign country.
'Among the issues, the dispute between Malaysia and Singapore on the water issue is seen as the most serious and has the potential to become a more open conflict including in military form,' he wrote.
In the article which touched on the security of Malaysia, Datuk Seri Zaini said: 'It is crucial that the water issue be handled very carefully by the leaders and governments of both countries.
Military conflict must be avoided as it will only hurt both countries.'
The retired general is best known as the Malaysian army field commander who walked unarmed into a jungle camp full of armed Al-Ma'unah cult members in July 2000 and subdued the group's leader.
The Al-Ma'unah group, which stole more than 100 weapons from an armoury, surrendered to government troops after a four-day stand-off in Perak - but not before killing a policeman and a soldier whom they had taken hostage during the tense incident.
Touching on the military balance between the two countries, Datuk Seri Zaini said Singapore's military has 'better strength and military-technology sophistication'. 'Its military structure and doctrine is geared towards an offensive and the Republic's defence strategy is based on forward defence,' he added.
He said that while the Malaysian Army had the answer to the form and posture of Singapore's military, Malaysians must be prepared to bear the high cost and sacrifices needed to make it a success.
His column in Mingguan was wide-ranging in its discussion of issues - from his views on the Al-Ma'unah incident to general army tactics and America's war on terrorism. -
Two more links from local analysts:
Renewed Military Buildups Post-Asian Crisis: The Effect on Two Key Southeast Asian Bilateral Military Balances
www.iseas.edu.sg/ipsi32001.pdf
Force Modernisation in SEA
http://www.idss.edu.sg/WorkingPapers/WP59.pdf
However, every organisation has its weakness. Here are some SAF weakness mentioned by Huxley:
1. Are our generals bureaucrats or military strategists? (Many of them are holding appts in govt stat boards or GLCs. Makes me wonder if they are career soldiers or just another reservist like me)
2. How long & how well can NSmen fight against a professional, albeit less well-equipped and less well-educated, adversary in a hostile land?
3. Falling birth-rates.
4. Many military assets stationed overseas.
I believe Mindef never underestimate our neighbours as we continue to pursue the 3G SAF. on our part, we should take our training seriously.[/u] -
We still got silver bullets if anything fails . at most S.E.A. perish together..
