PES FAQs @ "No Hospital Specialist Memo, No Talk?!"
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for chronic hep b, most cases is pes b.Originally posted by happydays:Hi there,
Someone i know is a Hepatitis B carrier with liver test raised more than 100.
What will his possible Pes status be?
Thank you
by depending on the latest liver panel lab test, might be at most pes C. the mo might order the lab test again and review the lab result b4 giving u the final pes. -
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he never make himself clear , liver test gt 1 is enzymes , 1 is liver function .Originally posted by eac:for chronic hep b, most cases is pes b.
by depending on the latest liver panel lab test, might be at most pes C. the mo might order the lab test again and review the lab result b4 giving u the final pes. -
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they gt classification which is classified information .Originally posted by mattleesc:i am diagnosed with disabling irritable bowel syndrome, that is i experience painful bloating and cramps in the stomach region, and excessive gas and urge to defecate, which is made worst by eating and stress i.e lack of sleep. I also experience vomiting in the middle of night due to acid reflux.
i was graded a PES B despite documentations of my illness. the mo said that such a problem is not deemed eligible for downgrading?
not that i mind, but what do i do if i get such symptoms during training and vocational work? i am also on long term anti depressants used for relaxant purposes, which we all know will cause hangovers in the morning. he did not even write medicinal excuses in my form as "i can simply take another medicine which wont cause groggyness." is it really so clear cut on what category of illness will be deemed as A/B/C/E etc?
if every single thing is downgraded nt enuff combat fit soldiers .
sg lack of population .
lastime pes less strict bt die to population changes ......
i read of an article that the only guidleines they dun have on medical conditions is rare type .
it was a blood condition .
those very rare problems .
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Sorry, asked him, think its liver enzymes, ALT ... -
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u nid both to guage how well ur livers are .Originally posted by happydays:Sorry, asked him, think its liver enzymes, ALT ...
but the function one is the 1 that is more important .
i think cmpb will ask for a complete liver function test and enzymes de from u .
dun worry think the blood they draw from u also will test to verify . -
no .Originally posted by mattleesc:so i will have no basis of excuses base on medicinal related side effects and frequent stomach related problems? should i raise concerns to my unit mo once i enlist?
oh well. such is life.
but y u take anti depressant , which doc give u ? -
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enough of ur nonsense...pls... isnt u the pre-enlistee with the social disorder... u even not enlist yet and trying to act pro in giving 'advice' to others? GREAT SCOTT!!Originally posted by goldevil:they gt classification which is classified information .
if every single thing is downgraded nt enuff combat fit soldiers .
sg lack of population .
lastime pes less strict bt die to population changes ......
i read of an article that the only guidleines they dun have on medical conditions is rare type .
it was a blood condition .
those very rare problems .
that one case to case basis .
the saf "pes bible" classification is labelled SECRET, only cat 2a security clearance personnel are able to read it with authorisation. and is very limited to 1 copy per medical centre and is numbered..
the saf medical board authority classifies medical conditions not by the population factor, this is the secondary concern. the primary concern is the comparsion of the % of personnel having the medical condition. e.g. gradual rising of myopia cases, flat foot condition is common nowadays... (as compared to the 1980s).
hq medical corps board routinely screen the medical conditions and then reclassify the medical conditions into the present trends.
rare problems? lolx... the saf medical corps uses the same international indexing code for medical illness and conditions, which is similiar to the binary sorting references in libraries... wikipedia it... -
yes. the more details u provide the mo, such as any reading, figures such as lab test result... etc. the better. didnt science in school teach u the more specific ur answers such as in chemistry... the better.Originally posted by mattleesc:i am diagnosed with disabling irritable bowel syndrome, that is i experience painful bloating and cramps in the stomach region, and excessive gas and urge to defecate, which is made worst by eating and stress i.e lack of sleep. I also experience vomiting in the middle of night due to acid reflux.
i was graded a PES B despite documentations of my illness. the mo said that such a problem is not deemed eligible for downgrading?
not that i mind, but what do i do if i get such symptoms during training and vocational work? i am also on long term anti depressants used for relaxant purposes, which we all know will cause hangovers in the morning. he did not even write medicinal excuses in my form as "i can simply take another medicine which wont cause groggyness."
is it really so clear cut on what category of illness will be deemed as A/B/C/E etc?
if u enlisted, ur condition worsen or really render u unable to function properly to training and later vocational work... just go see the camp doctor and provide the latest condition u experiencing... best if supported by letters/memo from govt. hospital specialists... if only with ur own mouth words, its not convincing to the mo to prepare ur case statement for any pending medical downgrade to its formational medical board chairman. -
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no, govt/private specialist letters will be sufficient, though govt. ones is preferred since saf is also under govt. but since the specialist is some sort of an eminent senior consultant, his letter is good enough. the letter's wordings oso plays a part. e.g. is it strongly-worded?Originally posted by mattleesc:hi eac, thanks for the reponse. i read a few posts back i realised goldevil was well..not a MO or anything close.
anyway, i did provide a specialist letter. i was referred to him after visiting various specialist as this guy is supposedly the president of some irritable bowel syndrome support group or something, as corny as it sounds. so i assume he would be able to provide a proper diagnosis.
are you saying i need a government specialist letter instead? for my case, my illness is mainly symptom base, because any other reason would be due to potential cancerous colon cysts etc which er, would suck really bad. so its hard for me to get some proper test proofs because my various scopes and barium meals turned out negative.
as per medication, how does is the consumption of relaxants/anti depressants which have negative side effects like hangovers and drowsiness being regulated?
the cmpb doctors give u pes b, but if u enlisted, u r strongly urged to seek another mo advice at the camp, as a second opinion. the mo there might prepare ur case as pending downgrade. pls note that there r many medical board chairman, mostly saf regular mo ranked MAJ and above. since the cmpb doctor gave u pes b, just accept it. then wait till enlist, then go to the medical centre there. again, bring all relevant documentations to give the mo there. though most tekong mo sucks since the no. of chao keng recruits they seen daily. but since ur case is genuine, he will exercise his professional judgement.
saf routine medical board proceedings is now based by formations. which means decentralised. so thats explains the many chairman. a medical board consist of a chairman usually MAJ and above, and 2 other nsf CPT doctors to conduct, to provide fairness and the factors to consider for each cases to give a final pes to the person.
to ur problem, did the specialist did all available possible tests?
for anti-depressants regulations, only the doctors knows as most these medications are prescribed to psychological patients. if there r non-drowsy medicine available, then ask for the camp mo to prescribe them. if the standard saf medical centre don have such drugs, then he will write a prescription form to allow u to get it from the govt. hospital pharmacies. it will be fully subsidied as long as u use ur 11b for register and b4 payment. pls note that medication is fully subsidied if it is listed under the govt. standard drug list schedule... by experience... -
does pes c1l1 gets to wear the camo plus face paint camo carry rifle de training mah?
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yes, the modified fieldcamp package and the technical handling of the rifle package includes that.Originally posted by Freedom Fighter:does pes c1l1 gets to wear the camo plus face paint camo carry rifle de training mah? -
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thanksOriginally posted by eac:yes, the modified fieldcamp package and the technical handling of the rifle package includes that. -
c1l1 got chance to carry rifle?
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yes, and this should be in the bmt thread.... ok...Originally posted by Freedom Fighter:c1l1 got chance to carry rifle?
both the dummy wood rifle and the real one... -
I have seen another pschiatrist n he used to be a regular in the SAF medical services. He prescribed some medicine. I have not shown the medicine to MO.Originally posted by eac:if ur reservist mo already knew and documented the medications ur taking. no need to arrange for another appt. no point.
I felt quite sleepy after taking the medication. What I need to know is after letting the MO at MMI seen my medication, what will he do next to I?
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got chance to shoot?Originally posted by eac:yes, and this should be in the bmt thread.... ok...
both the dummy wood rifle and the real one...
does c1l1 get to hold grenade?
I AM GOING TO NS IN 16 HOURS!!! -
As far as i know you should have the chance for both as long as the reason you gotten your pes C makes you excuse from those information.Originally posted by Freedom Fighter:got chance to shoot?
does c1l1 get to hold grenade?
I AM GOING TO NS IN 16 HOURS!!!
Please note this is not the topic to ask such questions so please direct them to the BMT topic instead -
he will just note down the new medications and observations in the medical review.Originally posted by will4:I have seen another pschiatrist n he used to be a regular in the SAF medical services. He prescribed some medicine. I have not shown the medicine to MO.
I felt quite sleepy after taking the medication. What I need to know is after letting the MO at MMI seen my medication, what will he do next to I?
Arrange for a medical board?
whether or not again a medical board review is strictly up to his own discretion. -
How do the MO determined the kind of medication the NS personnel taking will justify a medical baord?Originally posted by eac:he will just note down the new medications and observations in the medical review.
whether or not again a medical board review is strictly up to his own discretion.