PES FAQs @ "No Hospital Specialist Memo, No Talk?!"
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Hey ppl, i'm asking for a friend:
I'd like to find out whether it's possible to "upgrade" to PES B again if some1 who was originally PES B got downgraded due to whatever reasons?
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First, PES status is given on the medical condition. So downgrade got Perm PES or Temp PES status.Originally posted by i_heart_icecream:Hey ppl, i'm asking for a friend:
I'd like to find out whether it's possible to "upgrade" to PES B again if some1 who was originally PES B got downgraded due to whatever reasons?
Thanks
Temp status are those status that will be reviewed later on. So one might be able to given Perm upgrade or downgrade after each Medical Board/Review. Or given a further Temp status for further observation.
Once, u are Perm status, it will be unlikely to upgrade unless the person somehow manage to "cure" his illness. However, if a person's medical condition can be "cure" it will be unlikely he/she be given a Perm status.
So the question is: Is ur friend's PES Temp or Perm? -
sigh i am PES D for 3 mths.. wonder when wil be my next reviewing be??
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thanks 4 the info octegaOriginally posted by octega:First, PES status is given on the medical condition. So downgrade got Perm PES or Temp PES status.
Temp status are those status that will be reviewed later on. So one might be able to given Perm upgrade or downgrade after each Medical Board/Review. Or given a further Temp status for further observation.
Once, u are Perm status, it will be unlikely to upgrade unless the person somehow manage to "cure" his illness. However, if a person's medical condition can be "cure" it will be unlikely he/she be given a Perm status.
So the question is: Is ur friend's PES Temp or Perm?
i didn't ask him whether it's a temp or perm though.. haha.. -
before the 3 months are up lorOriginally posted by kenshin_himura:sigh i am PES D for 3 mths.. wonder when wil be my next reviewing be?? -
need help here!
hey i got a history of sinus and the doc once said my nose was crooked inside.This results in me feeling breathlessness after some exercises,and having to always breathe thru my mouth.Also i have eczema sometimes and a little hunchback which always aches when i carry heavy loads for a period of time.Just got my posting and was wondering some questions...:
1)if i get a letter of recommendation to downgrade from a private specialist will the MO review it?or will he disregard it as its not by a government specialist?thanks in advance -
Hi guys, i'm concern about my medical status and want to know likely which PES i'll be in. Here's my condition:
-FlatFoot
-Mild Hypertension(High Blood Pressure)
Here's the process of my Medical Examination:
1)I booked my appointment for medical examination and started collecting all my medical reports including the above 2. I got a letter from the SGH podiatrist for my flatfoot and a letter from my GP regarding my Hypertension as my GP is the one reviewing my BP for a long time.
2)I went for the Medical Examination on the appointment date and go through all the normal precedure. I thought i'm gg to be given a PES status on the spot but i wasn't. The MO gave me a PES D for 3 mths and asked me to get an update of my condition from my GP and podiatrist and told me to ask both my doctors whether my condition can recover in 2-3 weeks
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3)I went back and get the update from both my doctors and went back to the MO in 1 mth time. The MO then send me for a 24hr Ambulatory Blood Pressure Measurement(ABP). So i have to go back for this thing on a next day.
4)Back on another day for the ABP in the morning and then go back home for the measurement and go back to the CMPB the next day to remove the device. (Btw, its a pain in the ass for the ABP becoz its like a person strangling your arm for 24hrs haha and more imptly, i am not allowed to bath
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5)After the ABP is removed, spoke to the MO and i was told that my condition is quite bad as my Blood Pressure is constantly high(including my heart beat rate). So i got send to a specialise in NUH and again given a PES D.
6)I went to the hospital and the doctor there agrees that my BP has been high and wanted to know about my heart beat status. So this time she's going to send me for a AECG(Ambulatory ECG) to measure my 24hr heartbeat. I booked an appointment and is going but i was told by CMPB to go back and get a letter from them so the consultation will be free. So i went back to the CMPB and get the letter.
7)My appointment for the AECG is coming and i have to go NUH to put on the device. And have to go back the next day to remove the device(No bathing again!
OMG haha).
8 )Then the appointment to consult the specialise is not on the same day with the removal of the device so i have to go back to NUH for another appointment.
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Originally posted by kenshin_himura:sigh i am PES D for 3 mths.. wonder when wil be my next reviewing be?? Wait without any further appointment? Why? Didn't you book your next appointment? what's your reason for PES D?
For me, i book an appointment immediately after i got my PES D everytime i went back~ Read my post and see how many time i went back to CMPB. I booked an appointment everytime~
I think you better call back to CMPB to double comfirm. And better call back a few times at different time, coz sometimes the ppl there dun answer properly. -
Is there no one who can help?
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After the NUH doctor has decided the status of your condition and written to CMPB. Your PES status will depend on what the NUH doctor says.Originally posted by joeacid:7)My appointment for the AECG is coming and i have to go NUH to put on the device. And have to go back the next day to remove the device(No bathing again! OMG haha).
8 )Then the appointment to consult the specialise is not on the same day with the removal of the device so i have to go back to NUH for another appointment.
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I am weak in socialisation .
everyyear , teacher wrote in report book eg a quiet boy who needs to improve on his socialization or he is an introvert that needs to widen his social circle .
mine is a severe case .
must I tell the MO on duty or dun tell as this is embarrasing ?
I scare the MO ask me see psychaitrist seh , so embarrassing , no1 in my house has ever seen a psychaitrist .
Wad abt my anxiety while measuring BP ?
I alway have high BP because of feeling nervous , that's y my blood sugar always normal and only my BP is high . ( more than 160)
I tio 24 hours monitering be4 , i hate it cannot bathe and remove it , it causes itchiness on my skin . But i pass my monitering , because I feel less nervous at home comapred to hospital .
I scare I tio 24 hour BP monitering again .
Must I bring my previous 24 hour BP monitering results done previously ?
wad abt the medicine I am taking , must I show MO ?
I have to avoid certain food , must I tell MO ?
must I bring my healthbooklet ? It contains info like I have phomosis ( thick fore skin of my dick) and eyesight record . I have thick foreskin removal surgery be4 .
my eyesight is 550 on left and 500 on right ( not sure now , long time haven't screen) , moderate only not that severe .
as for medical records , I can't bring it leh . My doctor keeps in his clinic drawers , can I just bring a summary of all my sickness or have tobring whole stack ?
whole stack contains all sickness from 6 years old to now .
my ENT doctor even took pictures of my inner throat and nose . must I show ?
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ok first of all, i have to state that i am not experienced whatsoever.. but this is what i feel.Originally posted by Taiwanpolitics:I am weak in socialisation .
everyyear , teacher wrote in report book eg a quiet boy who needs to improve on his socialization or he is an introvert that needs to widen his social circle .
mine is a severe case .
must I tell the MO on duty or dun tell as this is embarrasing ?
I scare the MO ask me see psychaitrist seh , so embarrassing , no1 in my house has ever seen a psychaitrist .
Wad abt my anxiety while measuring BP ?
I alway have high BP because of feeling nervous , that's y my blood sugar always normal and only my BP is high . ( more than 160)
I tio 24 hours monitering be4 , i hate it cannot bathe and remove it , it causes itchiness on my skin . But i pass my monitering , because I feel less nervous at home comapred to hospital .
I scare I tio 24 hour BP monitering again .
Must I bring my previous 24 hour BP monitering results done previously ?
wad abt the medicine I am taking , must I show MO ?
I have to avoid certain food , must I tell MO ?
must I bring my healthbooklet ? It contains info like I have phomosis ( thick fore skin of my dick) and eyesight record . I have thick foreskin removal surgery be4 .
my eyesight is 550 on left and 500 on right ( not sure now , long time haven't screen) , moderate only not that severe .
as for medical records , I can't bring it leh . My doctor keeps in his clinic drawers , can I just bring a summary of all my sickness or have tobring whole stack ?
whole stack contains all sickness from 6 years old to now .
my ENT doctor even took pictures of my inner throat and nose . must I show ?
sorry for all my questions .
it is better to let them know of your condition, than to let them find out, and then blame you for not telling them in the first place.
after all, you dont want to endanger yourself of make your life in the army any worse. -
If someone is perm-downgraded from PES B due to hearing-problems after ORD FFI, which PES status is he most likely accorded? He lost total hearing in 1 ear and partial hearing in the other due to gunnery practice. Hopefully he won't go PES F, hate to lose a good soldier in my unit.
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hi. i am PES C L2. Buden i am excused for upper body limb due to my forearm fracture. wad will i expect for my BMT? am i still required to carry arms?
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Hi guys i just recently found out about this forum. Was directed here by another singapore forum.
I already ord. For around 6 years. About 3 yrs ago i had a corneal ulcer in my right eye that was very painful. During all that time as was not called up for reservist did not bother to get a specialist letter. This year was asked to go back to camp to update particulars, which i did. After that I went to get a specialist letter from the national eye center. This is because i have a deep corneal ulcer in my right eye that affects my vision so that i can see outlines only from my right eye. My left eye is fine except that it has a 500 degrees. So you can see that i have coordination problems etc cos of my eye problem.
Here is the procedure:
MO stated that i do not need an appointment. I guess as i am now an nsman and a civilian maybe that's why (is this true?) So i showed him my letter. Apparently he had a chart there and he said something along the lines of pes C9 or something like that. He got a clerk to write down my specialist letter word for word and copied it into the computer, later the clerk photocopied my letter and then the letter was returned to me. I was given an excuse ippt for 2 months. He asked for my particulars, contact number etc etc. Then he said my camp would contact me.
Here are my questions:
How long does it take for the medical board to come to a decision?
Does the MO that you saw that day have any say in the decision making of your pes status? The MO merely copied down the letter that i had into a pc and also rejected 2 other letters that i brought because he said one letter stated that i was seeing the specialist for further review and another did not have a specific case. I read in one of the posts that even if the MO or some clerk or puts in a special request the final decision is still up to the board.
It has been 1/1/2 weeks since i last saw the MO, how long does one normally have to wait. ARe there different criteria for reservists and active service men?
I was a pes A RP and in fact did not take any sick leave during that time and even during BMT or on course, but it seems they do not even have that record in my e-ns website, maybe they have a record that only higher ups in mindef can see?
Sorry i was a bit out of topic, but what do u think of my situation? What kind of circumstances influence the decisions of the medical board? IS the decision based on one man or based on voting by each board member? Also does the kind of specialist affect their decision? Like an associate professor's reccomandation be taken more into account than a newly appointed specialist?
Is there only one national medical board that oversees all the NS ppl in singapore or a few boards? SO the head of the board is a lpt-col/col MO as i read from here, is he also some kind of specialist or asso prof in hospitals or is he just purely based in the army?
SOrry for being so long winded, it was just that these questions popped into my head while typing this -
i'm a c9l9 going into army in oct 06
what is modified bmt?
what does a c9l9 have to do for modified bmt?
will i be excused for any activities like road march, running and ippt
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My friend has very high myopia (over 1000 degrees both eyes) and slight colour blindness (red and green). What PES grading is he likely to get?
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Originally posted by corebooster:hi. i am PES C L2. Buden i am excused for upper body limb due to my forearm fracture. wad will i expect for my BMT? am i still required to carry arms?
You can confirm with the MO again during ur BMT. But most cases I see, will explicitly state on the medical certificate that u will be excuse arms. -
Originally posted by skerrit:Hi guys i just recently found out about this forum. Was directed here by another singapore forum.
I already ord. For around 6 years. About 3 yrs ago i had a corneal ulcer in my right eye that was very painful. During all that time as was not called up for reservist did not bother to get a specialist letter. This year was asked to go back to camp to update particulars, which i did. After that I went to get a specialist letter from the national eye center. This is because i have a deep corneal ulcer in my right eye that affects my vision so that i can see outlines only from my right eye. My left eye is fine except that it has a 500 degrees. So you can see that i have coordination problems etc cos of my eye problem.
Here is the procedure:
MO stated that i do not need an appointment. I guess as i am now an nsman and a civilian maybe that's why (is this true?) So i showed him my letter. Apparently he had a chart there and he said something along the lines of pes C9 or something like that. He got a clerk to write down my specialist letter word for word and copied it into the computer, later the clerk photocopied my letter and then the letter was returned to me. I was given an excuse ippt for 2 months. He asked for my particulars, contact number etc etc. Then he said my camp would contact me.
Here are my questions:
How long does it take for the medical board to come to a decision?
Does the MO that you saw that day have any say in the decision making of your pes status? The MO merely copied down the letter that i had into a pc and also rejected 2 other letters that i brought because he said one letter stated that i was seeing the specialist for further review and another did not have a specific case. I read in one of the posts that even if the MO or some clerk or puts in a special request the final decision is still up to the board.
It has been 1/1/2 weeks since i last saw the MO, how long does one normally have to wait. ARe there different criteria for reservists and active service men?
I was a pes A RP and in fact did not take any sick leave during that time and even during BMT or on course, but it seems they do not even have that record in my e-ns website, maybe they have a record that only higher ups in mindef can see?
Sorry i was a bit out of topic, but what do u think of my situation? What kind of circumstances influence the decisions of the medical board? IS the decision based on one man or based on voting by each board member? Also does the kind of specialist affect their decision? Like an associate professor's reccomandation be taken more into account than a newly appointed specialist?
Is there only one national medical board that oversees all the NS ppl in singapore or a few boards? SO the head of the board is a lpt-col/col MO as i read from here, is he also some kind of specialist or asso prof in hospitals or is he just purely based in the army?
SOrry for being so long winded, it was just that these questions popped into my head while typing this
How long does it take for the medical board to come to a decision?
Depends. Sorry dude, from past experiences in my unit no definfate answer on the waiting period.
Does the MO that you saw that day have any say in the decision making of your pes status?
Depends if he sits on the medical board or not. If not then chances he has no power, just recommendations.
It has been 1/1/2 weeks since i last saw the MO, how long does one normally have to wait. ARe there different criteria for reservists and active service men?
From past experiences, most NSMen will call repeatly week after week to check. I am not saying u shld do that but as you know most clerks in units are NSF and NSF being NSF follows a simple way of doing things:-
Can forget, will forget. Can hack-care, will hack-care. Can drag, will drag.
I was a pes A RP and in fact did not take any sick leave during that time and even during BMT or on course, but it seems they do not even have that record in my e-ns website, maybe they have a record that only higher ups in mindef can see?
Not sure on this, maybe a medic can answer you on this one.
Ususally, the chairman on this board is a specialist in the respective field. Usually (ususally) holding dual roles, as a doctor and as a MO. He/she (ususally COL/LTC) holds the most power to decides. Of course, a doctor well-known in the medical community does hold some weight in influencing the outcome but in the end it will be up to the chairman. -
Originally posted by jeffpenguin:i'm a c9l9 going into army in oct 06
what is modified bmt?
what does a c9l9 have to do for modified bmt?
will i be excused for any activities like road march, running and ippt
thanks
Modified BMT training in essence is still the same as normal BMT for the PES A/B.
The only difference here is training is modified (in some cases reduce) to suit the medical condition of PES C personnels. For example, PES C1 require to do IPPT whereas PES C2/C9 are not.
You will do as per the training program states unless ur medical condition permeantly excuse u from doing certain training. Example, U are permeantly excuse Running,Marching and jumping then most likely u do not need to road march, run or do IPPT. -
My medical board chairman was Head Soldier Performance Center. From what I know, they are SAF MOs.
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thanks for your advice. i greatly appreciate it.Originally posted by octega:
Modified BMT training in essence is still the same as normal BMT for the PES A/B.
The only difference here is training is modified (in some cases reduce) to suit the medical condition of PES C personnels. For example, PES C1 require to do IPPT whereas PES C2/C9 are not.
You will do as per the training program states unless ur medical condition permeantly excuse u from doing certain training. Example, U are permeantly excuse Running,Marching and jumping then most likely u do not need to road march, run or do IPPT.
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My fren tio PES C, L2...
He says that the MO said he got some haemoglobin problem. My fren suspects that the reason is he dehydrated himself the day b4 so as to reduce some weigh. He scared he tio PES BP. Now, he regrets it and wants to 're-PES'.
I suggested to him that, to check with a GP first, whether he really got some haemoglobin problem.
Is it possible for him to retake the check-up to get a new PES status? SHould he check with a GP 1st or directly call CMPB to retake check-up ? -
Hi,
I would like to check with u guys. I am currently asthmatic, shortsighted and tore my right knee ligament. Do i still stand a chance for PES A or B ?
thanks in advance