what makes a good specialist?
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Goronator, i thought u yourself is a specialistOriginally posted by Gordonator:tell u all ah. the specialists (admin) in my departments are living lives like a king. they do nothing. all they know to do is push all their work to us.
everyday come late to work, ordered man to buy breakfast, then wayang here wayang there to encik as though they are doing work, then talk cock with eachother, sleep, smoke, play around like a childish kid with each other then go home. 
tell me which part of their job justify the $700+ they are getting every month? 
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in a way yes. cos i'm doing a specialist's job, their job!Originally posted by sans-culotte:Goronator, i thought u yourself is a specialist -
hmm.. time to raise the issue and claim their pay?Originally posted by Gordonator:in a way yes. cos i'm doing a specialist's job, their job! 
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no point. just give me the rank to justify all the work i'm doing for them.Originally posted by YI:hmm.. time to raise the issue and claim their pay? 
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What is a good specialist?
Simple. One who can inspire trust and repect in his men and does not have the mentality that respect is a privilege which comes with the stripes.
Easier said than done, of course.
Once I had an siao instructor who came down extremely hard on the men for absolutely no reason at all. He likes to instill fear in people. One day he told all of us that by instilling fear, he was instilling respect in us for him.
Balls to you, instructor. It is people like you who make the world such a terrible place to live in. Instilling fear in people will only lead to hatred - and that was what we all felt about him.
As a little green muppet called Yoda once said, 'Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hatred, hatred leads to suffering.' -
Gunnery Sgt. Hartman = A good specialist.
He sums it up best:
Because I am hard you will not like me. But the more you hate me the more you will learn. I am hard but I am fair. There is no racial bigotry here. I do not look down on niggers, kikes, wops or greasers. Here you are all equally worthless. And my orders are to weed out all non-hackers who do not pack the gear to serve in my beloved Corps. Do you maggots understand that? -
He's deluded, not to mention one track-minded and thinks he's the best thing in the company after an off pass right?Gee.Originally posted by fudgester:What is a good specialist?
Simple. One who can inspire trust and repect in his men and does not have the mentality that respect is a privilege which comes with the stripes.
Easier said than done, of course.
Once I had an siao instructor who came down extremely hard on the men for absolutely no reason at all. He likes to instill fear in people. One day he told all of us that by instilling fear, he was instilling respect in us for him.
Balls to you, instructor. It is people like you who make the world such a terrible place to live in. Instilling fear in people will only lead to hatred - and that was what we all felt about him.
As a little green muppet called Yoda once said, 'Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hatred, hatred leads to suffering.'
Respect is something you earn frm your actions and your competency in your job.Making others fear you for no apparent reason or justification only gives you false respect,and when your back is turned, God knows how many insults are hurled at you. -
Well.... he did at least teach me one good thing:Originally posted by LazerLordz:He's deluded, not to mention one track-minded and thinks he's the best thing in the company after an off pass right?Gee.
Respect is something you earn frm your actions and your competency in your job.Making others fear you for no apparent reason or justification only gives you false respect,and when your back is turned, God knows how many insults are hurled at you.
How NOT to be a commander.
Well, I'd rather let him be than continue slugging him out on an online forum. Pitiful maggots like him will receive their just deserts soon enough.... Those kind of people will eventually find ways and means of making themselves suffer. -
why is it that specs litterally filled up the thread. where is the opposite camp? i am really looking forward to a more lively exchange.
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See whether ur unit respect n recognize spec or not... Like my last time unit, they dun give a damn abtspec, to them spec r men, same treatment with the men. So do u think i'll give a damn abt being a gd spec??
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My personal opinion: Specs are very guai lan regardless whether in BMT or units.
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It's a shame you were not in my unit..you would have been terribly surprised.Originally posted by gnoik:My personal opinion: Specs are very guai lan regardless whether in BMT or units.
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It's a shame you were not in my unit..you would have been terribly surprised.Originally posted by gnoik:My personal opinion: Specs are very guai lan regardless whether in BMT or units. -
true true...but it is difficult to gain respect...to a man, a slack spec is a gd spec, cos everyone slacks together...a garang spec is a gd spec...provided he garang on his own, n dun arrow me...Originally posted by firewizard:rank is what u wear,respect is what u earn -
a spec mus be well balanced...Originally posted by khk:true true...but it is difficult to gain respect...to a man, a slack spec is a gd spec, cos everyone slacks together...a garang spec is a gd spec...provided he garang on his own, n dun arrow me...
my view of a good spec = fun time...enjoy wif us...when it's time to be serious..he can be very very serious...he must know his men well... -
a spec doesn't haf to b serious when it's time to b serious...a capable spec can joke n get things done at the same time...anyway wat's impt is to get things done...preferably in the most effortless way...n men can provided valuable feedback on the best ways to do things as they are the ones on the ground doin the shitOriginally posted by firewizard:a spec mus be well balanced...
my view of a good spec = fun time...enjoy wif us...when it's time to be serious..he can be very very serious...he must know his men well... -
ah i wonder why care so much abt being a gd spec or bad spec... Serve ur sentence den fuc k off from the organisation la.... U gd or bad, SAF n ur unit will not recognise ur effort de, u r juz a NSF why wanna be so garang...
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my seccom once told me
a good spec is subjective
to him..
a good spec is one that leads from the front
goes thru every hardship with his men
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cos if u r a bad spec, the men will suffer...dun forget they are also nsf serving ns...n as a spec, u can make a diff in their ns life...they r men u noe...not slaves...same goes for officers...Originally posted by Ogbunwezeh:ah i wonder why care so much abt being a gd spec or bad spec... Serve ur sentence den fuc k off from the organisation la.... U gd or bad, SAF n ur unit will not recognise ur effort de, u r juz a NSF why wanna be so garang... -
tt's a leader...n a gd spec is definitely not a manager...Originally posted by Rockhound:my seccom once told me
a good spec is subjective
to him..
a good spec is one that leads from the front
goes thru every hardship with his men
and enjoy the good times with his men -
earn your stripes!
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most important..earn ur respectOriginally posted by Gordonator:earn your stripes!