How to handle NSFs?
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Got a bunch of NSFs today. We were briefed to be more strict towards them,
"can be friend friend but you gotta understand that they are NSFs and they have the mentality that they are just here to serve and f**k off, so you have to be more strict towards them and watch how they work, because you will be signing for the job they've done which means any mistake, you are responsible"
I for one am not keen on NSFs posting to my unit.
I don't think I can even bring myself to being strict except when it comes to actual work. And I can't trust NSFs considering that I was a NSF myself AND I see the mentality of NSFs in the other NSF squadrons.
How to handle them so they won't step all over me? I'm not rank conscious at all and I think most of the people at my unit are not. We've never had NSFs and I guess this will be a culture shock not only for them but for us too. -
Let them know from day one that it is all about professionalism.Teach them to take pride in their work.Reward them well when they do a good job.Realise and accept that their mentality will always be different and boosting their morale and sense of ownership in their job is better than punishing them for the smallest mistake.Originally posted by kopiosatu:Got a bunch of NSFs today. We were briefed to be more strict towards them,
"can be friend friend but you gotta understand that they are NSFs and they have the mentality that they are just here to serve and f**k off, so you have to be more strict towards them and watch how they work, because you will be signing for the job they've done which means any mistake, you are responsible"
I for one am not keen on NSFs posting to my unit.
I don't think I can even bring myself to being strict except when it comes to actual work. And I can't trust NSFs considering that I was a NSF myself AND I see the mentality of NSFs in the other NSF squadrons.
How to handle them so they won't step all over me? I'm not rank conscious at all and I think most of the people at my unit are not. We've never had NSFs and I guess this will be a culture shock not only for them but for us too.
Be nice to them, you don't have to play rank, just remind them of your seniority and expertise.People respect a lao jiao and especially one who is knowledgeable of his stuff.
Try to treat them as fellow soldiers and professionals, the NSF's mind is filled with the idea that life has passed them by and their 2 yrs are wasted, so make them feel important. -
The way i see it, NSFs are divided into JC group, and the Poly, ITE, Mono-intake group.
For JC group, u have to stamp authority. U can try and befriend them, but they will be quick to exploit that frenship. In the end you'll still have to use yur rank.
For the other grp, u have to win their respect, gain their frenship. Once you guys become close, they will be very loyal towards u, and will unlikely screw u over.
Of course, this is a general observation, and as with everything in life, there will be exceptions
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Agree with Zooish's analysis.... btw what unit are u from??? It also has to take into account of the unit's culture...Originally posted by Zooish:The way i see it, NSFs are divided into JC group, and the Poly, ITE, Mono-intake group.
For JC group, u have to stamp authority. U can try and befriend them, but they will be quick to exploit that frenship. In the end you'll still have to use yur rank.
For the other grp, u have to win their respect, gain their frenship. Once you guys become close, they will be very loyal towards u, and will unlikely screw u over.
Of course, this is a general observation, and as with everything in life, there will be exceptions -
be nice hor. i very scared i go in den superiors scream here and there.
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this is true..Originally posted by Zooish:For JC group, u have to stamp authority. U can try and befriend them, but they will be quick to exploit that frenship. In the end you'll still have to use yur rank.
the jc platoon in my coy got whacked mercilessly....
sometimes they juz deserve it.....
while the poly platoons had quite a good experience(although we did get whacked now and then just for the fun of it)..... -
Not all JC sourced NSFs are bad stuff, and i know of poly grads who keng like there's no tommorrow.Lol.Originally posted by Zooish:The way i see it, NSFs are divided into JC group, and the Poly, ITE, Mono-intake group.
For JC group, u have to stamp authority. U can try and befriend them, but they will be quick to exploit that frenship. In the end you'll still have to use yur rank.
For the other grp, u have to win their respect, gain their frenship. Once you guys become close, they will be very loyal towards u, and will unlikely screw u over.
Of course, this is a general observation, and as with everything in life, there will be exceptions -
Mostly the JC group like that one.. once u show authority they will become very obedient... The poly group are made up of older people so they more mature? -
Nah... no JC students here, they've gotta have a diploma at least!
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oh come on not all nsf are that bad i mean yeah we have a serve and fark off attitude (nothign wrong with that personally) but they will do the work they have to do lah. no need to be extra strict etc lah jsut treat them like humans and you will get response one
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show them respect and they will show you respect.
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as my OC once said.....i try to quote as accurately as possible...Originally posted by kopiosatu:Nah... no JC students here, they've gotta have a diploma at least!
'I kinda like Poly students...they will keng most of the time and find the easiest method to solve the problem...while JC students would work harder and have the same outcome...and in that sense...i'm sorry to say that JC recruits are stupid'
the gist was like that...kinda funny sounding though...the JC recruits found it abit insulting...till they saw how the poly recruits do their work....lol.......
as always.,....there are exceptions.... -
i think most importantly we should remain sincere, treat them with respect, and just be yourself. anyway these are basically how we should treat anyone else. so there really is no difference, even with NSFs who are your subordinates, except here, the system empowers you over them.
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duplicated.
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Are they going to maintain the Blk52+?Originally posted by kopiosatu:Nah... no JC students here, they've gotta have a diploma at least! -
no, SP.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Are they going to maintain the Blk52+?
But i learnt that they'll be there to provide hands and legs only. Either way, whatever they do must really supervise.
Choppers are harder to maintain anyway. -
I smell some discrimination..
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set a good example for them. never ever let them see u slack or do anything u are not suppose to do, or else they will think that they can do it too, which will led to lots of problems later.
always remind them of the responsibilities of their job and how others' works can be affected if they chao keng/ take unnecessary MCs outside etc. teach them to think and work as a team instead of been self-centred and only thinking about themselves.
ya u know typical characteristics of NSFs. -
dun worry too much..Originally posted by kopiosatu:Got a bunch of NSFs today. We were briefed to be more strict towards them,
"can be friend friend but you gotta understand that they are NSFs and they have the mentality that they are just here to serve and f**k off, so you have to be more strict towards them and watch how they work, because you will be signing for the job they've done which means any mistake, you are responsible"
I for one am not keen on NSFs posting to my unit.
I don't think I can even bring myself to being strict except when it comes to actual work. And I can't trust NSFs considering that I was a NSF myself AND I see the mentality of NSFs in the other NSF squadrons.
How to handle them so they won't step all over me? I'm not rank conscious at all and I think most of the people at my unit are not. We've never had NSFs and I guess this will be a culture shock not only for them but for us too.
not all NSFs r bad...
in fact sum had better mentality towards their job compared to sum regulars..
i m jus stating the fact...
sum of the units.... dun be surprise ... majority of the work r done by NSFs in aiding their superiors who r normally regulars in yearly events like LRI and countless inspections... and the unit performs excellent for it... sum even got best unit for the year...
so , as long as their attitude is rite.. nuthing will go wrong...
cheers..... -
i agree with that. a good superior that takes care of his men will motivate NSFs to do their work.