pull ups...i really need help
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HHAAAOriginally posted by t88:im 17 this year and im quite skinny. I can pass all my NAPFA test stations without problems except for my pullups
. Can anyone give me advice on how to train for my pullups so that i can get a silver for my NAPFA and avoid the two extra months of NS? -
Go for some dumb bell training at home or gym, about 10 times per week.
Do some pumping as well to build up some strength. It'll take a few months before you can do a few standard pull ups, from then, keep training to maintain the stamina. -
Nothing better to post? Can't even laugh properly...Originally posted by echelon:HHAAA
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Why no one mentioned the LAT pulldown machine ?
Okay first thing first. To clarify things the proper way of doing chip ups is to grip the bar shoulde lenght apart using the over-graft method. Overgraft grip is palms facing down , while undergraft is palms facing up.
To properly execute a chinup, you have to use your back muscle, commonly known in the gym as your lats. the secondary muscle group used are the forearm muscle for gripping the bar and biceps for the final curling motion of ur arm.
Therefore pushups does not help you doing chinups UNLESS your using the undergraft method which is not recommended as one of the SOC obstacles, the Swing Trainer requires you grip bars, and i have not seen one that can move through the bars using the undergraph method.
So to train your chinups.
1) Try hanging from the bar in sets of 3. this is to train up your fore arm muscle. which will help u grip the bar better.try to time your hanging times. and slowly you can progressively hang longer and develop better strength.
2) Try to go to the gym and use the LAT pull down machine. i could not pull a single chinup back in secondary school, and only after spending like 1 mth on the machine, i could do 3 chinups.
3) if a gym is not avaiable or convienet, go to the fitness park and try to pull chinups 3 times a wk. this will help you train your muscles needed to do the chin ups.
gd luck . -
i suggest you go for ptp?
cause i think ptp is pretty effective.
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agree w one-niner.. I would recommend using the LAT pulldown machine in the gym for those who can't do chinups yet. Cos its specfic (ie train the exact muscles used for chinups) and progressive (you can start with lighter weights and slowly strengthen as you go along)
Do about 3 sets of 10 pulldowns at about 80% of your max, everyday.. increase after a couple of days. initially, u'll feel the strain in your muscles but once you get used to it, then it'll be ok.
If no gym ard, doing Flex arm hang is also ok.. hang for 8-10 sec, do 5-8 sets..
For me, when i started training for pullups, I din care about the technique... I swing, i kick, i cycle in mid air.. No matter how ugly i look, die die also will do 5. eventually the muscles start to strengthen.. then I realise that i can do 5 without swinging... after that then I start to concentrate on the proper technique. -
then use 5kg dumb-bells, do bicep curls and triceps,
when free go to gym do the lateral pull-ups etc....and eat more meat.
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sigh...i haave just been humiliated pretty badly...i went down to my condo's fitness area and attempted to do dips..but as usual, i failed and my arms gave way...
this sec 2 who was playing around saw me collaspe and started mocking me for being so weak...then he challenged me to an armwrestling match which i stupidly agreed to..he trashed me in less than 10 sec..
i guess perhaps i should just work out in the confines of my house... -
hmm ...don't bother with the small kid, just do what u think its correct and apporiate.better shy now than in the future.Originally posted by t88:sigh...i haave just been humiliated pretty badly...i went down to my condo's fitness area and attempted to do dips..but as usual, i failed and my arms gave way...
this sec 2 who was playing around saw me collaspe and started mocking me for being so weak...then he challenged me to an armwrestling match which i stupidly agreed to..he trashed me in less than 10 sec..
i guess perhaps i should just work out in the confines of my house...
Take it this way dude, this sec 2 kid is going to do NS same as me as u.just thin kof it when u ORD and go on to study etc..that poor chap still haven't left right left right keep up the tempo.
go and work on the areas as i have talked abt earlier.It might be gd to invest in those chinup bars and try to watch your weight also ..cause your essentially pulling your own body weight up .. -
that's sound advice there.Originally posted by one-niner:hmm ...don't bother with the small kid, just do what u think its correct and apporiate.better shy now than in the future.
Take it this way dude, this sec 2 kid is going to do NS same as me as u.just thin kof it when u ORD and go on to study etc..that poor chap still haven't left right left right keep up the tempo.
go and work on the areas as i have talked abt earlier.It might be gd to invest in those chinup bars and try to watch your weight also ..cause your essentially pulling your own body weight up ..
don't be like me - i left it till the last minute and ended up failing my napfa by 1 pullup, which resulted in my going for ptp. don't spend an unnecessary 2 months extra in ns!
and if you're (un)lucky enough to be enlisted into a mono-intake unit, ptp might well be one of the shiongest parts of your NSF life. -
thanks for your encouragement but it was super humiliating lorhz...
what do you think..a sec 2 beating a j1..sigh...honestly pple..do u tink im damn weak? -
yea..just wanted to get honest opinions on my physical strength compared to the average...
im 17 years...1.78..51kg...0 pullups..3 assisted pullups 25 pushups max..0 dips? am i really very weak compared to average? -
aiya.. nobody is born strong.. think abt it.. every strong man has to start from being weak, including that sec 2 guy that humiliated u! if u give up now, u'll always be his shou xia bai jiang.
last time i used to swim like s-hit.. my breast stroke looked like doggy paddle like dat.
super humiliated when kenna overtaken by chio bu!! but i made the concious effort to train harder, and train in the correct manner.. now pretty ok in my swimming liao. 
scared of humiliation is not a reason to quit. in fact, it should be motivation to do even better.
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sometime humiliation also got it good sideOriginally posted by t88:thanks for your encouragement but it was super humiliating lorhz...
what do you think..a sec 2 beating a j1..sigh...honestly pple..do u tink im damn weak?
, that is make u train more than u could take. -
u are very thin.Originally posted by t88:yea..just wanted to get honest opinions on my physical strength compared to the average...
im 17 years...1.78..51kg...0 pullups..3 assisted pullups 25 pushups max..0 dips? am i really very weak compared to average?
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I can do 50 pushup 90%maxOriginally posted by Gordonator:u are very thin. 
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i know...dats most probably why im weak tooOriginally posted by Gordonator:u are very thin. -
work on putting on some weight first.Originally posted by t88:i know...dats most probably why im weak too -
bicep is the one in front right? i tot the tricep is used too... and how come i do i feel like chest muscle also used? O_OOriginally posted by one-niner:Why no one mentioned the LAT pulldown machine ?
To properly execute a chinup, you have to use your back muscle, commonly known in the gym as your lats. the secondary muscle group used are the forearm muscle for gripping the bar and biceps for the final curling motion of ur arm.
anw.. no muscle can eat protein powder..
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eat powder grow meat only but not increase strength.
bicep is the one in front right? i tot the tricep is used too... and how come i do i feel like chest muscle also used? O_O
anw.. no muscle can eat protein powder.. Mr. Green
excess meat = extra burden
can eat, but still hav to train. -
Chinup is an excerise that uses much of your body muscles..as u go up, the LATs pull up the body ..with the rest of the body becoming tense to help in the chinning processOriginally posted by mrblitzer21:bicep is the one in front right? i tot the tricep is used too... and how come i do i feel like chest muscle also used? O_O
anw.. no muscle can eat protein powder.. -
being thin is better than being heavy to pulling chiniups...Most of my thin frens are able to pull quite a lot of chinups once they were strong enough ..as they bone mass were light and they required the mini strenght to pull due to their light body frame.Originally posted by t88:i know...dats most probably why im weak too
Don't give up ..just contiune training as per normal, go to the gym and pull the lats pulldown ..do situps...be confident...i'm sure you will be able to pull your chinups.... -
how your pull up liao?
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Lose weight. I was about 1.8m and 63Kgat the end of BMT. Could do 12.Originally posted by t88:im 17 this year and im quite skinny. I can pass all my NAPFA test stations without problems except for my pullups . Can anyone give me advice on how to train for my pullups so that i can get a silver for my NAPFA and avoid the two extra months of NS?
I'm sure you've got some weight to lose...
EDIT: OMG! Your already 53kg! You're doomed. Resign yourself to PTP. -
i can nearly do 1 now...improving slowlyOriginally posted by jerry82:how your pull up liao?