Do Platoon Sergeants have enough experience?
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Originally posted by Altis84:hrmm don from tekong? f coy ah... he used to me my ps loh.. super garang.. kaoz.
Foxtrot platoon 4.Originally posted by Cens:Pls, let's not get started on stories of 2SG Don.
oh my, since when has 2SG Don became a legend? as if the garang OC is not enough, the paltoon 4 guys still got him to endure. -
Let's just say a MSG in the US Army is allowed to be a Abrams Tank Commander in ops, and a platoon 1st Sergeant is given the role of acting Platoon Commander.Originally posted by fudgester:I think we can dedicate one whole sticky on that.
Anyway, let's get back to the thread, shall we?
Let's face it.... optimally the platoon sergeant ought to be the most experienced person of all in the platoon. If I'm not wrong, the average age of the PS in a US army platoon is about 28 or 29. Contrast this to the SAF - we can have pimply-faced 19 year olds as platoon sergeants.
Heck, in many cases the men end up being older than the PS.
There's nothing much we can do about this. We're a conscript army, and we don't have the sufficient manpower to allow the situation where the PS is a highly-experienced soldier in his late twenties who has seen it all. I guess the only thing we can do is to firm up the standards for the PS selection process and make sure that not any green soldier can become a PS.
Inevitably there will be some black sheep, and I've come across total jerks who think that the stripes on their sleeves entitle them to respect and fear from the masses. Nothing we can do about getting rid of jerks in the Army, but at least we can try to prevent some of them from getting stripes on their sleeves.
Age and experience matters more in a force where being sent to war is a career path.No way can you have a pimply 19 year old PS being combat ready in both mind and spirit, but that's our limitations, and we hope that we can overcome this with our tech.
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local rank ? tats worse.Originally posted by Marco_Simone:Btw,I was an air level sergeant also,but I was not from SISPEC.I was a chao PTE and chao CPL for several months before I became 3SG so I could understand how enlistees feel and empathize with them.Unlike those stuck up people from the command schools.Get rank so fast without really seeing the world -
no not local rank, he's a technician.Originally posted by crazy monkey:local rank ? tats worse.
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i c. last time in my Coy some guys from other platoon got local rank because not enough specialist. knn neber go sispec got promote just because they are Air level when they do COS anyhow arrow the men ccbOriginally posted by Gordonator:no not local rank, he's a technician. 
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was recently told that sg officers are laughted during their training over in Thailand cause these are just young, untested people who happen to read a couple more books but never had any real combat experience in comparison to those in Thailand... Don't know true or not. But I tend to believe this. -
Originally posted by Gordonator:no not local rank, he's a technician. Specialist Technicians have to do combat resupply roles too.And they get service pay.
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The Canadian Army has platoon Warrant Officers as 2i/c of a platoon.Originally posted by fudgester:I think we can dedicate one whole sticky on that.
Anyway, let's get back to the thread, shall we?
Let's face it.... optimally the platoon sergeant ought to be the most experienced person of all in the platoon. If I'm not wrong, the average age of the PS in a US army platoon is about 28 or 29. Contrast this to the SAF - we can have pimply-faced 19 year olds as platoon sergeants.
Heck, in many cases the men end up being older than the PS.
There's nothing much we can do about this. We're a conscript army, and we don't have the sufficient manpower to allow the situation where the PS is a highly-experienced soldier in his late twenties who has seen it all. I guess the only thing we can do is to firm up the standards for the PS selection process and make sure that not any green soldier can become a PS.
Inevitably there will be some black sheep, and I've come across total jerks who think that the stripes on their sleeves entitle them to respect and fear from the masses. Nothing we can do about getting rid of jerks in the Army, but at least we can try to prevent some of them from getting stripes on their sleeves.
Why not reduce the number of specialist ranks and use newly promoted 2WOs as Platoon 2i/cs? This would provide an experienced adviser for the platoon commander and a role model for specialists and soldiers. -
don is famous lah... even the rsm loves him. Kaoz.... super garang loh... first few days of ptp "qie" us with pushups every evening... one of my sect mate even got heat exhaustion wahahahaOriginally posted by Gordonator:Foxtrot platoon 4.
oh my, since when has 2SG Don became a legend? as if the garang OC is not enough, the paltoon 4 guys still got him to endure.