WO who calls junior officer by name.
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There's a 2WO in my unit who do not address junior officers as sir.
Is he unprofessional? -
yes.Originally posted by whypay88:There's a 2WO in my unit who do not address junior officers as sir.
Is he unprofessional? -
Colleagues mah, buddy buddy mah.
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wait teo charge ahOriginally posted by whypay88:There's a 2WO in my unit who do not address junior officers as sir.
Is he unprofessional? -
Would you as a 19 year old charge a man old enough to be your father?
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If he tried to rape me, of course!Originally posted by LazerLordz:Would you as a 19 year old charge a man old enough to be your father? -
i would if that guy gave me work unreasonablyOriginally posted by LazerLordz:Would you as a 19 year old charge a man old enough to be your father? -
It would be a landmark eventOriginally posted by LazerLordz:Would you as a 19 year old charge a man old enough to be your father? -
call by name is at least better than being called by surname right?
example,
encik to 2LT: "john, can u help me check whether the meeting is..."
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encik to 2LT: "teo, can help me check whether the meeting is..." -
If he steps out of line, yes.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Would you as a 19 year old charge a man old enough to be your father?
Well, but more often then not WOs will buddy buddy with superior officers. That way they pretty much assure themselves of a happy ending in the event of minor disputes with junior officers.
Also, i'm only a 3sg nia... so can't charge people. Not that I want to, really... wrecks lives. Personally if you ask me, officers in NS are given too much power really... what (sending someone to jail/DB) would usually take a criminal court to decide is being replaced by an officers' recommendation. Which to my knowledge of 2 cases, are usually approved.
No need for such harsh steps. People are just there to serve NS; not committing robbery, etc etc.... -
Most junior officers don't mind being called by name by WOs.
At least, not the total jerks who somehow got bars on the shoulders.
As my BMT PC once said, 'I ought to be the one calling those guys 'Sir' - not the other way round.' -
Yup , they definitely know the grounds and operations better than the 1year 2nd LtOriginally posted by fudgester:Most junior officers don't mind being called by name by WOs.
At least, not the total jerks who somehow got bars on the shoulders.
As my BMT PC once said, 'I ought to be the one calling those guys 'Sir' - not the other way round.' -
I wouldn't mind...Originally posted by fudgester:Most junior officers don't mind being called by name by WOs.
At least, not the total jerks who somehow got bars on the shoulders.
As my BMT PC once said, 'I ought to be the one calling those guys 'Sir' - not the other way round.'
As long as work gets done, and all are happy
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the prefect solution is that junior officers address warrants officers as enciks and enciks address them as Sir. fair right?
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That's the way.Respect their age and experience.Originally posted by fudgester:Most junior officers don't mind being called by name by WOs.
At least, not the total jerks who somehow got bars on the shoulders.
As my BMT PC once said, 'I ought to be the one calling those guys 'Sir' - not the other way round.' -
hey if the enlisted call the WOs encik will kenna gan or not?
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It is not what he call you that matters.Originally posted by whypay88:There's a 2WO in my unit who do not address junior officers as sir.
Is he unprofessional?
If your 2WO call you by your name "John" - sometime it is a sign that is good, that is he is close to you and is your buddy. That is a good thing .
It is more to the attitude he is towards you, some can call you "Sir" but behind you call you "moron". If this is the case - I rather he call you by your name.
Most of us officers will kind of face this type of problem when first commission. You just have to learn, you can make people call you "Sir" only 2 ways - one is forcefully force them or to let nature take it course just do your best and earn the respect of them for them to even automatically call you "sir" and even salute you from real respect. -
In my unit even the platoon sgts address their pc by nameOriginally posted by whypay88:There's a 2WO in my unit who do not address junior officers as sir.
Is he unprofessional? -
this will have to depend on the relationship between them.
i've seen privates address 1-3sgs by name, or senior specs addressing WOs by name. our own WO sometimes addresses our idiot 3bar as simply 'oi'. -
what i found really said is when i saw a 2WO speak to another 1WO as though he were a recruit. and it's not like the latter was those fierce, strict types. just that the former was extremely hum chee.
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Why wanna let the rank control our freedom of speech n working... I feel tat rank really restrict a lot of things.
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nothing wrong with a warrant officer addressing a junior officer by his name, if the junior officer is his son, both working in the same unit.
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wah very hard to see nowadaysOriginally posted by Gordonator:nothing wrong with a warrant officer addressing a junior officer by his name, if the junior officer is his son, both working in the same unit. -
imgine this.Originally posted by martin_lim85:wah very hard to see nowadays
encik: "Ah boy ah! go take for me the document CO wanted."
2LT: "Pa, cannot find leh."
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encik: "Ah Boy ah! later book out, help me buy dinner, your mother not cooking today."
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2LT: "Pa, tomorrow u on off, can i drive your car to camp?"
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We are a citizen army.So don't always think that insubordination is intended.Originally posted by Gordonator:imgine this.
encik: "Ah boy ah! go take for me the document CO wanted."
2LT: "Pa, cannot find leh."
or
encik: "Ah Boy ah! later book out, help me buy dinner, your mother not cooking today."
or
2LT: "Pa, tomorrow u on off, can i drive your car to camp?"
just for laughs.