NS and 5 day workweek.
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I have 1 question to ask , we will be doing BMT for 3 months , after that followed by an 8-5 pm job for 5 days every week.
Nothing more right?
i won't be doing anything more then that... -
Do i get over time pay ?
and i would like to ask if my rights are covered under ministry of manpower.
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See whether you end up in sispec or ocs loh.
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If i don't go both?Originally posted by ditzy:See whether you end up in sispec or ocs loh. -
If they ask me to go overseas , must i really go overseas?
I don't like to travel to other countries for training , so i also hope they will cater for me.
I also would not want to be placed in the frontline of warfare.
A pay of about $500 would also be sufficient for me.
Im proficient in MS word , excel , access and VB . -
Must emphasise how many times, conscripts don't get pay, they get allowance. A-L-L-O-W-A-N-C-E, allowance. You want pay, you sign on, simple as that.
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Still the same sh|t, maybe sh|ttier, maybe not as sh|tty.Originally posted by SMAPLionHeart:If i don't go both? -
Ok loh, you stay back and cover all the duties whilst your mates go overseas.Originally posted by SMAPLionHeart:If they ask me to go overseas , must i really go overseas?
I don't like to travel to other countries for training , so i also hope they will cater for me.
I also would not want to be placed in the frontline of warfare.
A pay of about $500 would also be sufficient for me.
Im proficient in MS word , excel , access and VB .
Ok loh, let you be encik's right hand man. Free up his work. -
How are the working conditions like?
Where can i seek redress if we get punished? -
faintOriginally posted by SMAPLionHeart:If they ask me to go overseas , must i really go overseas?
I don't like to travel to other countries for training , so i also hope they will cater for me.
I also would not want to be placed in the frontline of warfare.
A pay of about $500 would also be sufficient for me.
Im proficient in MS word , excel , access and VB . -
declare 302 ba!
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Smappy ah, if we can choose, no one wants to go overseas. But it will be a wonderful experience. If you really dun wanna go, then keng lor...Originally posted by SMAPLionHeart:If they ask me to go overseas , must i really go overseas?
I don't like to travel to other countries for training , so i also hope they will cater for me.
I also would not want to be placed in the frontline of warfare.
A pay of about $500 would also be sufficient for me.
Im proficient in MS word , excel , access and VB .
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Unless this is your father's army or you are medically downgraded. Otherwise please wait long long for the 8-5 job every week.Originally posted by SMAPLionHeart:I have 1 question to ask , we will be doing BMT for 3 months , after that followed by an 8-5 pm job for 5 days every week.
Nothing more right?
i won't be doing anything more then that...
As mentioned countless times in some threads, an NSF is not drawing a paycheck from an employer. SAF gives an allowance, and hence no overtime pay. Your employment rights are not covered by MOM as you are conscripted and not employed (unless you sign on).Originally posted by SMAPLionHeart:Do i get over time pay ?
and i would like to ask if my rights are covered under ministry of manpower.
Thanks.
If you are ordered to go overseas for training. Yes, you must go unless you have a very good and valid reason not to (Such as next-of-kin pass away etc). The reason of "don't like to travel" is not a reason, it is a lame excuse. Nobody wants to be a the frontline if he can choose, but somebody got to get the SHIT job done, so I guess there isn't much choice. I stressed again that you are not getting a paycheck, it is an allowance. As to how much, it depends on your rank and vocation. No Big deal in being proficient in Microsoft Office applications. Throw a stone in a camp, chances are that you will strike a couple who knows them as well.Originally posted by SMAPLionHeart:If they ask me to go overseas , must i really go overseas?
I don't like to travel to other countries for training , so i also hope they will cater for me.
I also would not want to be placed in the frontline of warfare.
A pay of about $500 would also be sufficient for me.
Im proficient in MS word , excel , access and VB . -
K... if you are PES A or B... forget about 8 to 5 unless you end up in service side.
So if you don't want to be frontline... that means service... so you need to get a rank of Third Sergeant (3SG) to get a pay of $500.
If you want to get $500.... then best if you become a COMBAT (front line) Corporal. But you will not get this rank until you near ORD.
Where to seek redress, they are plenty of redress avenues PROVIDED you have solid and valid reason you are treated unfairly.
This would be things like, I am asked to work day and night because i am a chinese, or i am the only one in the entire company being asked to go for field camp while the company stays in bunk.
If you are PES C, chances of getting 8 to 5 is very high. But same rules apply if you want to get $500 pay. This case only way is to get 3SG rank.
As for going overseas, do you mean posted there or go overseas for training?
For posting there, you MAY have the choice to say no. BUT if no one says yes, you will be randomly chosen. Overseas posting is the only other way you can get good pay without getting rank. A LCP to CPL may get aroudn $800-1000 monthly.
For training there, you cannot say no. but you can don't go based on medical/personal reasons. For medical, it has to be, an injury WARRANTING a temporary downgrade, or you currently have severe contagious illness. Things like flu, fever, you still go. -
wait.. i am not done yet...
your knowledge in VB, MS office suites don't help unless you go to those few rare postings where you will be involved in MS Office tweaking. but i emphasise.. it's rare.. because SAF's computing is outsourced.
and your 5 Day workweek..... you are in luck. Most non-schools unit are on 5 day workweek scheme. But it doesn't mean you are safe on weekends. They will have many excuses to make you stay in camp on weekends. -
with your type of attitude, i can tell you your life in NS now,
you will ganna the worst shit and will be powerless to complain because people like you are perceived as too troublesome to tekan you directly because as a commander, i know that you will create problems for me, like going to the CO, S1, calling up Mindef, writing long letters, you are the type that will go through all that trouble, so either I ship you out to a rival commander so that you can be his problem or I get mutual understanding with the encik to innocently let you "have it" whenever we get the chance
the crap that you have to deal with, even though when you commit sucide, it will be officially declared as "he is a troubled boy with mental problems", case close, no one will be blamed.
my advice to you is: its only 2 years, bite the bullet and dont expect SQ type of services handed down to you -
Wha.
looks like ive enrolled into Hitler's Youth camp. -
Clap clap clap well said.Originally posted by ditzy:Still the same sh|t, maybe sh|ttier, maybe not as sh|tty. -
i have a friend posted as an a veh tech in 1g. he rarely ever needs to even touch vehicles, he spends most of his time behind the computer. at home.Originally posted by Ponders:your knowledge in VB, MS office suites don't help unless you go to those few rare postings where you will be involved in MS Office tweaking. but i emphasise.. it's rare.. because SAF's computing is outsourced.
he's a graphic designer. -
not to worry, for a so-called super white horse like yourself, u will be exempted from NS. yes in fact COA will come down to your house and personally hand your certificate of exemption and medal.
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Well last time my unit used to claim 5day work week for regulars only. And my boss keep threatening us with that and say if we dun do our job well.. he can always ask us to come back on saturday.
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You wish... If saturday and sunday got training you still have to go for it... You think really 5 days week ah????Originally posted by SMAPLionHeart:I have 1 question to ask , we will be doing BMT for 3 months , after that followed by an 8-5 pm job for 5 days every week.
Nothing more right?
i won't be doing anything more then that...
and the compulsory 5 days might be 24hrs in camp if you are in stay in unit...
5 days week started before I ord but I don't see 5 days week at all...
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Something only a man can take.Not a man-child.Originally posted by SMAPLionHeart:How are the working conditions like?
Where can i seek redress if we get punished?
Better not begin flaming..I delete threads without hesitation if you begin to launch fireballs.
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Higher chance if you are proficient in SAP software.Originally posted by Ponders:wait.. i am not done yet...
your knowledge in VB, MS office suites don't help unless you go to those few rare postings where you will be involved in MS Office tweaking. but i emphasise.. it's rare.. because SAF's computing is outsourced.
and your 5 Day workweek..... you are in luck. Most non-schools unit are on 5 day workweek scheme. But it doesn't mean you are safe on weekends. They will have many excuses to make you stay in camp on weekends. Working in MIS is something of an eyeopener. -
Haha... you only need to be proficient in physical and mental... Only thing you do in there is training and Sia Kang...Originally posted by SMAPLionHeart:If they ask me to go overseas , must i really go overseas?
I don't like to travel to other countries for training , so i also hope they will cater for me.
I also would not want to be placed in the frontline of warfare.
A pay of about $500 would also be sufficient for me.
Im proficient in MS word , excel , access and VB .