Nid Advise before Medical Check up...
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Hi guys, I'm actually going for medicaly check up soon.
I had back problem and needs to have to show the proves of my medical reports. But it seems that, it does not means that the medical reports from any government hospitals are really acceptable by them.
For eg.
My elder brother, his knee Cap for problem... got into PES C2L2... where the hospital doctor says that he's not suppose to do any heavy work at all.
Then later.... he went in... knee cap got to go for 2 operations after the forcing of training... until the last day of his ORD... still got MO say he is "Chao Keng" one...
The was a Sportsman... basketball lover... now.. after NS..and the 2 operations... he can't even lead normal life now... can't stand for long... walk for long... cannot run.. cannot jump... basically.... RUINED......
Do u guys know any doctors that are really powerful enough to prove my problem and that the MO at the medical centre will understand and respect the reports the doctor says? Thanks alot... -
frankly, if any ambulance chaser sees this, the MO will die a horrible death
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yah... somemore ... he's still not downgraded to PES E... = Still got Reservice...Originally posted by the Bear:frankly, if any ambulance chaser sees this, the MO will die a horrible death -
just get what ever prove u have. and show them u really are sick
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yup thanks i know... but the problem is... juz like wat my brother had... he also had proven his injuries... but... still... the proves are there... but the doctors report are not strong enough.... that's why i nid u guys to gimme some ideas of whichever u guys had...Originally posted by martin_lim85:just get what ever prove u have. and show them u really are sick -
erm i only know go and find specialist to go and help you write letter.Originally posted by joeacid:yup thanks i know... but the problem is... juz like wat my brother had... he also had proven his injuries... but... still... the proves are there... but the doctors report are not strong enough.... that's why i nid u guys to gimme some ideas of whichever u guys had...
if really got things wrong with you btu the MO never give face then go and find your MP bah -
If your MO decides to play God with your reports, try to see another MO at another camp, say when you are attached out or something.Originally posted by hisoka:erm i only know go and find specialist to go and help you write letter.
if really got things wrong with you btu the MO never give face then go and find your MP bah
If while in BMTC, let your superiors know what you have in detail,so that the MO can be further convinced.I had a OCT ( DR) who was an absolute ass, till my specialist sort of screwed him over the phone.
IIRC, that douche bag is now a staff medical officer in the RSAF. -
Ic... but for my brother's case is that... the 1st MO has already written a report to another MO in the next camp he went to and what happens is that the report has something to do with "Chao Keng" one. That's why no matter which MO it is... unless... U know what? the worse ever thing is that when he calls up the hotline... The thing actually went down to the MO and S1 (Coz he's in S1 branch that time). He is accused of being mentally impaired and sent for mental check-up every wk... *I forgot which camp he went to for the mental check-up.. but it's for all the mental problem ppl*Originally posted by LazerLordz:If your MO decides to play God with your reports, try to see another MO at another camp, say when you are attached out or something.
If while in BMTC, let your superiors know what you have in detail,so that the MO can be further convinced.I had a OCT ( DR) who was an absolute ass, till my specialist sort of screwed him over the phone.
IIRC, that douche bag is now a staff medical officer in the RSAF.
He was forced unofficially to drop his so call "Complain" through the hotline....
Looking for another MO is also useless.... my brother was sent to the NUS medical HQ for decision... but becoz the MO who sends his currents report has got P.S in it... it's useless.... and
the worse thing is when his specialise didn't help him... and even says that "I did my job by juz giving him MCs as requested".... BULLSHIT!!! When we asked our specialise about why he's injuries hasn't recovered after the 2nd operation, he juz say things like "It just takes time", he'll automatically give MCs!!! + he is a specialise!!! How would he have given MCs when ppl doesn't have problems!!! and does it means that anyone can get MCs on request?!!!He says all of the above when the HQ MO asked about his MCs and conditions....
While one the other hand... when he was in BMT... he's direct Platoon Segent is the one who actually made him do "extra jobs" when he has the 6 mths MC for no heavy work... and there goes the 1st time operation.... he almost lose his leg... when he reaches the hospital... the doctor says that if he were to be late for another few hours... he would have lost his leg...
If wanna say complain to MP... tried... useless... covered...
Complain to CO? ... worse.. made his life more miserable for him... imagine... "IMMEDIATE ACTIONS" where made where special messages press on his superior... even the ones who are nice to him will also hate him now... make them troublesome... and things likdat....
That's why i need is powerful medical report from a specialise... do anyone hav one to recommend? -
I just wonder if a MO referral to Military Medicine Institute will work
Being at MMI for my NS I see many orthopaedic cases coming to us, and sometimes medical boards are held. I've seen many people with difficulty walking coming for medical board despite being at MMI for just 2 weeks only. -
mine only just a small doctor to write letter to MO only
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it definitely works but then you must get referred there first. anyway i read the thign i think you jsut have to insist one they ask you to retract you must grit your teeth and dun get forced cos if not you will have to suffer if really go mp also cannot then go write to pm president and go internet and newspaper lor use the power of the media and publicity if you have to... btu thats the last straw i guessOriginally posted by kuekj:I just wonder if a MO referral to Military Medicine Institute will work Being at MMI for my NS I see many orthopaedic cases coming to us, and sometimes medical boards are held. I've seen many people with difficulty walking coming for medical board despite being at MMI for just 2 weeks only. -
I think your brother's case is just one of the rarer suay cases..
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Yah... properbly one of the most suay~ Anyway, got any docotrs out there to recommend for my back problem pls?
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some cases are more straight forward
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Yup i think so~ but i dun wan the same problem to lies on me... so i wanna get myself prepared. Coz i know my back more than anyone... if i strain it too much... i'll end up in operation too... and if that happens...Originally posted by tarutaru:some cases are more straight forward -
If you have letters from specialists, your MO will arrange for medical board. Regardless of which specialist you get, it is the Medical Board that will decide on PES grading. There are lots of orthopaedic surgeons in the SAF, including the Chief of Medical Corps himself. So if they disagree with the specialist outside, they can overrule.
BTW, there is a secret book by which the SAF MOs decide on PES grading. The grading given reflects the kind of activity MOST patients with the condition can handle. Some people suay suay will have a condition that is not downgradable by the secret book but can be worsened by physical activity. I also suffer from a joint problem that got worse after NS. During army, they say cannot downgrade 'cos not bad enough....by the time I ROD it was so bad that I have to undergo operations and they downgraded me, after I have gone through all the shit.
What to do? Accept your fate lor....who ask you to be born Singaporean male instead of foreign talent? -
yah... but my brother has already went through it once... he got ruined... that's why i'm concern abt it... becoz i know i had Back problem... I'm sure not all specialise are accepted by them... especially the pte hospital ones... there muz be some specialise that they respect and recognised... I wonder where are they...Originally posted by oxford mushroom:If you have letters from specialists, your MO will arrange for medical board. Regardless of which specialist you get, it is the Medical Board that will decide on PES grading. There are lots of orthopaedic surgeons in the SAF, including the Chief of Medical Corps himself. So if they disagree with the specialist outside, they can overrule.
BTW, there is a secret book by which the SAF MOs decide on PES grading. The grading given reflects the kind of activity MOST patients with the condition can handle. Some people suay suay will have a condition that is not downgradable by the secret book but can be worsened by physical activity. I also suffer from a joint problem that got worse after NS. During army, they say cannot downgrade 'cos not bad enough....by the time I ROD it was so bad that I have to undergo operations and they downgraded me, after I have gone through all the shit.
What to do? Accept your fate lor....who ask you to be born Singaporean male instead of foreign talent? -
Anyone knows? one any doctors from SGH, NUH, TTS, AH, SATA?
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SGH got good doctors but u need to pay for your own MRIOriginally posted by joeacid:Anyone knows? one any doctors from SGH, NUH, TTS, AH, SATA? -
Whichever doctor you go to the medical board will make up its own mind. If you are looking for a specialist that the Medical Board will most likely agree with, it will have to be a senior SAF MO.
The Chief of Medical Corps, BG (Dr) Wong Yue Sie is a Visiting Consultant at SGH Department of Orthopaedics. You make appointment to see him...if he agrees to downgrade you, I guarantee no SAF MO will disagree.. -
wah... but that one too "Special" doctor le wor~ u sure it's possible?Originally posted by oxford mushroom:Whichever doctor you go to the medical board will make up its own mind. If you are looking for a specialist that the Medical Board will most likely agree with, it will have to be a senior SAF MO.
The Chief of Medical Corps, BG (Dr) Wong Yue Sie is a Visiting Consultant at SGH Department of Orthopaedics. You make appointment to see him...if he agrees to downgrade you, I guarantee no SAF MO will disagree..
Got anyone other than him? haha. Can try lar, but i nid an alternative~ -
Any other doctor to recommend?
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I don't see why not as long as you are willing to payOriginally posted by joeacid:wah... but that one too "Special" doctor le wor~ u sure it's possible?
Got anyone other than him? haha. Can try lar, but i nid an alternative~ -
damn..I didn't get himOriginally posted by oxford mushroom:Whichever doctor you go to the medical board will make up its own mind. If you are looking for a specialist that the Medical Board will most likely agree with, it will have to be a senior SAF MO.
The Chief of Medical Corps, BG (Dr) Wong Yue Sie is a Visiting Consultant at SGH Department of Orthopaedics. You make appointment to see him...if he agrees to downgrade you, I guarantee no SAF MO will disagree..
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a little aside...
i've a friend who got extra heart sound during his primary 5 check-up. will it affect his PES? generally he's rather fit and doesn't have any medical problem besides tt extra heart sound.