unhappy abt life in tekong and future vocation
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honestly i feel quite unhappy abt my life in tekong. for waht reasons i cant really specify. it;s quite complex to even list out or anything.
*like not getting along with platoon mates, sgt keep thinking i am trying to keng when i simply dun want to see the MO when i am not feeling well or injured.
**why i dont want to see the MO is because of 2 reasons.
***there was this monday where ard 5-6 ppl reported sick for various reasons(cant remember what they were) and they all got 1 guard duty each because my PS thinks that monday was quite slack, just 1 PT in the morning and lectures for the rest of the day. i nearly went to the MO because i occasionally experience really bad back pains (not those sudden sharp pains) even when i just lie down on the bed or even when i just standing up straight.
***2nd reason is because i dont want to miss PT lessons especially now when there isnt much admin time during the day for me to see the MO and i have to burn weekends if they want me to retake some lessons.
another thing is that i just feel that i dont quite like the life and time in tekong.
i believe i will get flames for saying this because some may think i am dismissing NS as a waste of time.
No. Neither am i saying i am too high class to be suited for NS etc etc.
But what i am saying is that i wish to apply what i've learnt in poly during my vocation. my batch is a leadership batch, so most of us will go to ocs or sispec.
not that i look down or hate going to command sch(nothing of that sort), but it's just that while i am trying to my identity in NS, i realise what i yearning for is to at least practise to a certain extent something related to my diploma.
yes i will practise my rifle drills, running, listening and following commands, learn discipline etc and know that these are important.
i wonder whether i feel this way is because i feel disengaged from the life, lessons and trainings in tekong. but waht i do know is i have started to discover my aims or waht i am looking for in NS.
perhaps some might not consider such a vocation/choice as "NS life" or think i am, at best, half a soldier.
anyway the next time i can reply to this thread is next fri or sat.
meanwhile, just give me some comments.
thanks.
Book in, Book in day
edited: once during a lesson my PS screamed at me right in the face but i didnt feel anything at all until ard lunch time on the day i was booking in. i was thinking abt some com games then it suddenly struck me. then i suddenly became extremely stressed out and my breathing was accelerated and i was breaking out in cold sweat.
the mere thought of booking in simply demoralises me and makes me extremely stressed out, it's not the usual "sian book in liao" type of thinking but much worse. -
What diploma do you possess?
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Life in NS only starts when you're in unit.
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Welcome to the real world of SAF...
In 2 years time you will find that you forget where u were in your BMT... -
studied a bio diploma.Originally posted by LazerLordz:What diploma do you possess? -
get aliveOriginally posted by bismarck:honestly i feel quite unhappy abt my life in tekong. for waht reasons i cant really specify. it;s quite complex to even list out or anything.
*like not getting along with platoon mates, sgt keep thinking i am trying to keng when i simply dun want to see the MO when i am not feeling well or injured.
**why i dont want to see the MO is because of 2 reasons.
***there was this monday where ard 5-6 ppl reported sick for various reasons(cant remember what they were) and they all got 1 guard duty each because my PS thinks that monday was quite slack, just 1 PT in the morning and lectures for the rest of the day. i nearly went to the MO because i occasionally experience really bad back pains (not those sudden sharp pains) even when i just lie down on the bed or even when i just standing up straight.
***2nd reason is because i dont want to miss PT lessons especially now when there isnt much admin time during the day for me to see the MO and i have to burn weekends if they want me to retake some lessons.
another thing is that i just feel that i dont quite like the life and time in tekong.
i believe i will get flames for saying this because some may think i am dismissing NS as a waste of time.
No. Neither am i saying i am too high class to be suited for NS etc etc.
But what i am saying is that i wish to apply what i've learnt in poly during my vocation. my batch is a leadership batch, so most of us will go to ocs or sispec.
not that i look down or hate going to command sch(nothing of that sort), but it's just that while i am trying to my identity in NS, i realise what i yearning for is to at least practise to a certain extent something related to my diploma.
yes i will practise my rifle drills, running, listening and following commands, learn discipline etc and know that these are important.
i wonder whether i feel this way is because i feel disengaged from the life, lessons and trainings in tekong. but waht i do know is i have started to discover my aims or waht i am looking for in NS.
perhaps some might not consider such a vocation/choice as "NS life" or think i am, at best, half a soldier.
anyway the next time i can reply to this thread is next fri or sat.
meanwhile, just give me some comments.
thanks.
Book in, Book in day
edited: once during a lesson my PS screamed at me right in the face but i didnt feel anything at all until ard lunch time on the day i was booking in. i was thinking abt some com games then it suddenly struck me. then i suddenly became extremely stressed out and my breathing was accelerated and i was breaking out in cold sweat.
the mere thought of booking in simply demoralises me and makes me extremely stressed out, it's not the usual "sian book in liao" type of thinking but much worse. -
then what you want to be in? chemical warfare officer?Originally posted by bismarck:studied a bio diploma. -
dun be sad la. come to msn..i need to talk to u
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i sense a few things here:Originally posted by bismarck:honestly i feel quite unhappy abt my life in tekong. for waht reasons i cant really specify. it;s quite complex to even list out or anything.
*like not getting along with platoon mates, sgt keep thinking i am trying to keng when i simply dun want to see the MO when i am not feeling well or injured.
**why i dont want to see the MO is because of 2 reasons.
***there was this monday where ard 5-6 ppl reported sick for various reasons(cant remember what they were) and they all got 1 guard duty each because my PS thinks that monday was quite slack, just 1 PT in the morning and lectures for the rest of the day. i nearly went to the MO because i occasionally experience really bad back pains (not those sudden sharp pains) even when i just lie down on the bed or even when i just standing up straight.
***2nd reason is because i dont want to miss PT lessons especially now when there isnt much admin time during the day for me to see the MO and i have to burn weekends if they want me to retake some lessons.
another thing is that i just feel that i dont quite like the life and time in tekong.
i believe i will get flames for saying this because some may think i am dismissing NS as a waste of time.
No. Neither am i saying i am too high class to be suited for NS etc etc.
But what i am saying is that i wish to apply what i've learnt in poly during my vocation. my batch is a leadership batch, so most of us will go to ocs or sispec.
not that i look down or hate going to command sch(nothing of that sort), but it's just that while i am trying to my identity in NS, i realise what i yearning for is to at least practise to a certain extent something related to my diploma.
yes i will practise my rifle drills, running, listening and following commands, learn discipline etc and know that these are important.
i wonder whether i feel this way is because i feel disengaged from the life, lessons and trainings in tekong. but waht i do know is i have started to discover my aims or waht i am looking for in NS.
perhaps some might not consider such a vocation/choice as "NS life" or think i am, at best, half a soldier.
anyway the next time i can reply to this thread is next fri or sat.
meanwhile, just give me some comments.
thanks.
Book in, Book in day
1. you mentioned not getting along with platoon mates.
2. you have chronic health problems that is contributing to unhappiness such as sgt thinking you are keng-ing.
3. you feel that you are unable to apply what you have learnt during ns - not sure if this is directly or indirectly causing unhappiness but let's leave it as that first.
4. your "NS identity".
i think getting along with platoon mates is really quite important, esp since you have to spend most of your time with them. why do you say you are not getting along? what is causing this? i think there is a need to look into this if you want to at least have a group of persons if not friends whom you can work and live happily with.
you should also seek medical advise on your back condition, esp since i think your condition renders it necessary. no point trying to suppress it and get by with NS - it is not going to do anyone good, esp yourself.
your third point - sense of self-worth perhaps? i believe the third and forth points are closely related, and even that the third and forth points are consequences of unhappiness due to the first two points.
in the end its really having a positive attitude towards things, even if you think they are pointless, even if you think you cant apply them. but the fact is you have to go through it so why not do so with a more positive outlook? it will certainly make you happier.
and to have a positive outlook, the first two points should be addressed. only when these corollary contributing factors can be addressed, when you can serve your time while functioning fully and with a cordial and harmonious relationships with your peers, can you really develop a positive outlook. i think if that can be done, the third and forth points would go away themselves.
my five cents worth.
good luck!
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to me, recruit life is the best. no responsibilty, no worries... jus need to train n train n train.. enjoy ur recruit life n make the best out of it cos when u get posted to unit, u will miss ur botak days... i definitely miss mine..... sigh~
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recourse bmt till you ordOriginally posted by monoslayer:to me, recruit life is the best. no responsibilty, no worries... jus need to train n train n train.. enjoy ur recruit life n make the best out of it cos when u get posted to unit, u will miss ur botak days... i definitely miss mine..... sigh~ -
haha. i felt the same way last time la. give it some time to get use to it. like when i was posted to ERS, training was tough, but it was fun and exciting oso.. felt happy to book in to see friendly faces in my dorm again.
maybe its the getting along with other platoon mates is the key. having great support from friends is very impt. try to find out why u're not very welcomed, maybe is ur attitude? -
i am pretty sure it is your attitude. From your initial posting on the thread, it is very easy to detect that you have already isolated yourself from your platoon mates simply because you are thinking too much about things concerning, "how to get a posting i deserve.", "can i get into command school", etc.
I think the most important thing to do now is to reassess yourself in term of social skills. -
Hiya, u do sound rather stressed. Ya, i agree with the rest that you do need to get along with your platoon mates quite well. Or failing which, at least stay neutral, or straddle a comfortable point in between them disliking you and actually shunning or ostracizing you.Originally posted by bismarck:edited: once during a lesson my PS screamed at me right in the face but i didnt feel anything at all until ard lunch time on the day i was booking in. i was thinking abt some com games then it suddenly struck me. then i suddenly became extremely stressed out and my breathing was accelerated and i was breaking out in cold sweat.
the mere thought of booking in simply demoralises me and makes me extremely stressed out, it's not the usual "sian book in liao" type of thinking but much worse.
understand that you cannot allow ill feelings to breed. so you must have at least a few close friends in bmt.
in any case, like you, i didn't like bmt very much. at that point in time, i thought that the ps seem to like to tekan me as well, but seriously you have to understand the flip side. he needs (and probably wants) to mantain a certain amount of friendliness to command a minimal amount of respect.
life may or may not get better in the army, depending on where you get posted to, and as what. however, the basic dynamics remain the same. as you undersatnd it better you'll find that things are easier to bear and life will generally get easier.
hang in there! it's only 2 more years! and sgforums is an excellent place to rant! -
not to worry, BMT is only 3 months. real army life begins when u are in unit. the only thing u need to focus in BMT is,
1) get along well with your section mates and platoon mates.
2) do your best in whatever u do, passing IPPT, SOC, range etc.
the rest of the things like tekan by sergeants, where u will be posted to etc u can just leave one side 1st. always think of the bright side, perhaps change your mindset, think positive.
is there anyone nice enough down there u can trust, talk to? like your sec comn, CSM, PC or even OC? why not has a word with them, get things off your chest. see how things can work out.
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Stop whining.
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i thought it was good that he rants here. be supportive laOriginally posted by Kuali Baba:Stop whining.
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Guess I am considered lau jiao since I was enlisted 21 years ago....some of you were not born then..Recruit life then was really much worse...
Do make an effort to fit in with your platoon mates and be part of the gang. Offer to help whenever you are able to....when I came back from a really shack log PT one day, I found out my buddy who was attend C in bunk had cleaned and oiled my rifle ready to send arms. I was most grateful....
The one lesson I learned about surviving NS is not to think too far. Mentally gear yourself to get through each day, one day at a time...and thank god each night you go to sleep that you are one day closer to book out...Each time you book in, thank god you are one week closer to pop..
Some people will think that is too passive but I am no garang soldier...just wanted to do my duty and get through it. I did....far from top recruit or cadet but I survived, without too many extras either... -
i am not going to comment on anything except ...
your mum gave birth to u.
is ur duty to serve NS .. so u LL need to servce .. unless u cut of fur LJ .. that is another thing (i am not being patrioti over here. like u, i hate ns)
but ... please .. take good care of yourself ...
your mum will be the suffering party if you get yourself injured
also .. seek treatment for your back ... like u, i ignore my back pain .. turned out to be slipped disc .... -
recruit book in le....
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poor boy...
bismarck u in which coy now? -
the trouble with a small command level is that they stick together like hyenas. one dun like = all dun like. Unless of course, he knew at least one of htem previously. finding someone to trust is important, but i'd say to not place such misguided and implicit trust that they can't do their job without him feeling betrayed.Originally posted by Gordonator:not to worry, BMT is only 3 months. real army life begins when u are in unit. the only thing u need to focus in BMT is,
1) get along well with your section mates and platoon mates.
2) do your best in whatever u do, passing IPPT, SOC, range etc.
the rest of the things like tekan by sergeants, where u will be posted to etc u can just leave one side 1st. always think of the bright side, perhaps change your mindset, think positive.
is there anyone nice enough down there u can trust, talk to? like your sec comn, CSM, PC or even OC? why not has a word with them, get things off your chest. see how things can work out.
anyway yah, @ the end of the day the command level in bmt (as with other units, but significantly more pronounced here) is really just concerned about statistics. ie: pass ippt + gold, good soc timing etc etc. and you'll find that they'll give little to no trouble. though of course, i fail to see how that can be achieved with persistant back pains.
+ yah, hang in there. i hope things will only get better as bismarck progress in ns & make more friends. if it dosen't then he'll seriously need to reconsider how he is like as a person in real life. NS, to me, is one of the best litmus test as on to how people thrive in a near equal world, since there are no chances for promotion and everybody really just wants to make friends, be popular and move on. -
dun worry after bmt you get post out dun need to see those farkers again
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No experience here,but what I can say is that, when u are stuck in a crappy situation u are in like now, situation will automatically improve over time,no questions asked. Its just to take notice of all the little things happening around you which will help u realise that it is uplifting. Bite harder and hang in there, don't ever let go as this will make u feel worse. Life has never been about getting to then end, but its more about the process you go through to get to the end.
Besides, if you say that your bio diploma got no use, den I think i'm worse off,I'm studying business now lehz...how to make use of my poly learnt skills?haha,dun worry, i'm sure u will pull through.Do keep us updated yeah?cheers!
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farkers are everywhere, sometimes we don't realise the farkers turn out to be ourselves.Originally posted by crazy monkey:dun worry after bmt you get post out dun need to see those farkers again We see the world as full of farkers, the world sees us as farkers.