Commandos verus Naval Diving Units
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well people wich one u think is more capable and well trained? post yr views here...
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Each & everyone has thier own roles & capabilites in thier operations...so i'll pass this one.
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They do different things, how to compare? On what basis?
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well...on which basis...erm i find it hard to compare btw these two elite forces...naval diving units like do the same stuffs as commando like parachuting n rapelling n they are also specialise in diving which commandos do not...from my point of view i think naval diving unit is more siong but they do not receive the kind of recognition commandos get...nevertheless my interest lies towards commandos
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I like naval divers more... keke.
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why do you think hendon has such a deep pool for ? .... Hint: it's not for water survival training alone ...Originally posted by Special Splint:well...on which basis...erm i find it hard to compare btw these two elite forces...naval diving units like do the same stuffs as commando like parachuting n rapelling n they are also specialise in diving which commandos do not...from my point of view i think naval diving unit is more siong but they do not receive the kind of recognition commandos get...nevertheless my interest lies towards commandos
but yeah ... everyone has a different mission ... there's no way to compare ... and we shouldn't ..
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haha then what else is it used for then...rear fishes inside?Originally posted by Fatum:why do you think hendon has such a deep pool for ? .... Hint: it's not for water survival training alone ...
but yeah ... everyone has a different mission ... there's no way to compare ... and we shouldn't .. 
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As the rest of the guys have said, it's apples and oranges. I'm happy to have plenty of respect for divers and the job they do.
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i wonder what happens if the divers meets jaws.. or those giant squids. while doing a job...
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haha jaws n giant squuids in Singapore?? No la what naval divers should be aware of are jellyfishes n stonefishes...both species r highly dangerous n some might be poisonous n prove to be fatal with with their attacks...commandos shd worry that the birds pierce through their parachute haha just kidding...Originally posted by BadzMaro:i wonder what happens if the divers meets jaws.. or those giant squids. while doing a job... -
NDUs truly command respect, how many of us can survive their 'hell-week'?
pity tat they do not have more recognition den the commandos.. theres a saying "all divers can b commandos but not all commandos can make it as a diver"... (dun let the cdos heard tis) -
I was a medic for NDU.. though i am not from ndu... got a few commandos went there for diver training... they couldn't tahan the physical regime...
From my commando and NDU friends... all I can say is NDU should be more siong, and the NDU divers should be more fit BUT combat fit wise commandos should win hands down... since they are more cross-trained than the divers -
but i still think commandos better...naval divers do all the shit stuff but still way below the commandos interm of their recognition...i have alot alot of friends who are mad about commandos but when i ask about naval divers...they asked 'whats that??'
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For those who had been to NDU's cookhouse....there's a chinese motto taken from the Taiwanese Underwater Demolition Group or some will call Taiwan Navy Seal "Qi Shan Mo Qi Shui"= written on the wall of the cookhouse....it means you can bully the mountain but never bully the sea....so who is better...is up to u to guess
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How to we recognise a NDU? Their beret is any special color?
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Apart from the unique NDU PT kit that they don and their super tan complexion... it'll be through their Professional Diver badge...Originally posted by Icemoon:How to we recognise a NDU? Their beret is any special color?
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U can recognise them by their professional diving badge..Originally posted by Icemoon:How to we recognise a NDU? Their beret is any special color?
their beret is the same as in the whole navy - navy blue...
their pt shorts are khaki colour, same as those US guys... -
well said.Originally posted by riken1974:For those who had been to NDU's cookhouse....there's a chinese motto taken from the Taiwanese Underwater Demolition Group or some will call Taiwan Navy Seal "Qi Shan Mo Qi Shui"= written on the wall of the cookhouse....it means you can bully the mountain but never bully the sea....so who is better...is up to u to guess
anyway those in the know will know that NDU's training is perceptively much tougher then that of commandos. my reasining as on to why commandos are more recognized is because they are a larger unit, and hence their highly ballooned version of 'tough' training becomes more common through word of mouth.
i mean, seriously, ask any girl if they've heard of adf, the people who have real actual peace keeping experience? or if they have heard of chemical defense unit, what with their SOC in MOP4 (or 1? can't remember). or hey, who would have heard about our dearest air defense artillary?
chances are that they haven't. but chances are that they'd have heard about their citizen army classmates moaning about how tough commando training is.
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Ya i do have to admit NDU training is much tougher since they spend most of the time in the water...and their hell week --120hrs of non-stop physical exertion with only a mere 2-3 hrs of sleep! Guess they have already learnt whats the meaning of mind over body BUT! after all those tough trainings,their recognition is so minute compared to the prestigous red berets...for me i rather go for commandos n earn the kind of recognition n respect rather than to go through a much more tougher physical regime n only to be thrown far back in the majority minds....From what i know commandos trainings aren't easy too...they r as hard cos they do lots and lots of running which not everyone can take it...btw god bless me when i enter commandos for BMT...
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intepretation: you'd like to jump in on the bandwagon chasing the illusory prestige that is commandos? ie: less work for more prestige?Originally posted by Special Splint:Ya i do have to admit NDU training is much tougher since they spend most of the time in the water...and their hell week --120hrs of non-stop physical exertion with only a mere 2-3 hrs of sleep! Guess they have already learnt whats the meaning of mind over body BUT! after all those tough trainings,their recognition is so minute compared to the prestigous red berets...for me i rather go for commandos n earn the kind of recognition n respect rather than to go through a much more tougher physical regime n only to be thrown far back in the majority minds....From what i know commandos trainings aren't easy too...they r as hard cos they do lots and lots of running which not everyone can take it...btw god bless me when i enter commandos for BMT...
hmm, i suppose you're right. who wouldn't want that?
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Hmm...so far. NDU commands greater respect because of the naval duties.
The rest are confidential lo. -
commando trainings r tough as well n it is not easy to be a commando...u cant say less work for more prestigedepend on individual thinking la...Originally posted by nomood:intepretation: you'd like to jump in on the bandwagon chasing the illusory prestige that is commandos? ie: less work for more prestige?
hmm, i suppose you're right. who wouldn't want that? -
Can give a brief training courses list Commandos and NDUs will go thru?
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commandos tough on land lor while NDU tough in water...haha
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but clearly as an individual you agree that commandos get more prestige for a lot less work? allow me to quote you from 2 posts earlier...Originally posted by Special Splint:commando trainings r tough as well n it is not easy to be a commando...u cant say less work for more prestige depend on individual thinking la...
SpecialSplint: for me i rather go for commandos n earn the kind of recognition n respect rather than to go through a much more tougher physical regime n only to be thrown far back in the majority minds
edit: realized people have a tendency to mis-read, so making it clearer....
paiseh to all who have replied due to my lack of clarity in format. paiseh paiseh...