Random thoughts
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Mmm.. Just wondering what happen if some country decided to attack us on a Sat/Sun or PH?
As you all know, there will be no one in the camp.
So who will be mobilised 1st? NSF or NSmen? -
regulars of course. they are paid to defence the country.
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too few regulars to defend... so logically would be NSmen....Originally posted by Gordonator:regulars of course. they are paid to defence the country. -
there is something call recall mob..heard of it? no? go slp then..Originally posted by gnoik:Mmm.. Just wondering what happen if some country decided to attack us on a Sat/Sun or PH?
As you all know, there will be no one in the camp.
So who will be mobilised 1st? NSF or NSmen?
u sure no one in camp? very sure? 100% no one?
NSmen will be recall 1st.. -
there will always be unit on stand-by, even on festive seasons. eg 5SIR, 6SIR they all.
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Last time tio standby really sian ah
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Yes, there is always a unit on standby. You obviously have not entered SAF yet.
As to who mobilize 1st ~ stupid question. If another country attacks Singapore, the whole damn military along with the police, civili defense and gosh knows who else will be mobilizing. -
Ever heard of Alert Red?Originally posted by gnoik:Mmm.. Just wondering what happen if some country decided to attack us on a Sat/Sun or PH?
As you all know, there will be no one in the camp.
So who will be mobilised 1st? NSF or NSmen?
And yah, NSMen first. NSF's aren't even considered full fledged soldiers until they ORD.
Hence the acronym ORD, which stands for Operationally Ready Date.
I suspect NSFs will help in equipping the NSMen first... recall, draw arms, etc etc... -
if really singapore under attack i will not wait to be mobolised...i will volunteer....serious...MY country leh....u attack...i smak u until ur mother dun reconise u sia...
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That's why we have all those alert mannings, brother. Then if we do come under attack, whichever unit is on standby can be deployed as a holding force. I suppose they'll engage the enemy forces in a holding action until the rest of the SAF can be mobilised and deployed.
This was what happened during the Yom Kippur War. Egypt and Syria launched a combined attack on Israel, thinking that since it was a public holiday, operational readiness would be low. They thought it would take 24 hours for the Israeli reserve to reach the front lines, but they did so in just 15 hours. -
In singapore if they reach the front line , singapore lose liaw
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Just like how a lion hunts , when a tiger hunts for it's prey , it will ruffle some bushes.
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In this modern era , with AWACS and satellites , i don't think it's possible for other countries other then our 2 neighbours to launch a surprise on us.
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Originally posted by ipjh79:if really singapore under attack i will not wait to be mobolised...i will volunteer....serious...MY country leh....u attack...i smak u until ur mother dun reconise u sia...
I would too. And I certainly hope that most of us have similar mindsets.
I'm not so interested in protecting *my country* per se, but it represents the mass of land where the freedom of my family, friends and vested interests are. That in itself is enough to warrant me defending it. -
Hmm, no lar. Lose in the sense that our economy/infrastructure would be severely damaged, since we have no buffer zones.Originally posted by SMAPLionHeart:In singapore if they reach the front line , singapore lose liaw
But a total washout isn't likely...
This is where the media has gotten me; i actually have quite a fair bit of confidence in the defence of singapore.
That said, things could turn out the WWII way, where we were expecting the british to defend us. In retrospect, that has turned out to be the joke of the century. Those can't-fight-now-gotta-break-for-tea soldiers... -
We cannot allow WW2 to happen again.If you feel you have a stake, please stay and fight.If you have none, just don't hinder those who have.Fair enough I guess.Originally posted by nomood:Hmm, no lar. Lose in the sense that our economy/infrastructure would be severely damaged, since we have no buffer zones.
But a total washout isn't likely...
This is where the media has gotten me; i actually have quite a fair bit of confidence in the defence of singapore.
That said, things could turn out the WWII way, where we were expecting the british to defend us. In retrospect, that has turned out to be the joke of the century. Those can't-fight-now-gotta-break-for-tea soldiers... -
this remind me of some questions that my friend asked some of the officers when they come to poly. he told me that other classes have the so call 'planted' questions so the officers will be able to reply them.
his class didn't prepare any question so he shoot out something like this. he asked the officers that if there will a sudden attack from out M neighbour, especially during the eve of chinese new year, how long do u think is able to mobilise everyone back (talking able NS man). And also how many ppl will be willing to come back.
the officers were there standing dun know how to answer his question. so you can imagine about it. think about it.
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The officers on the ground may not know..but the ones in the really vital units do.You can't expect Public Affairs dept to be the SOF right.Originally posted by freedom4ever:this remind me of some questions that my friend asked some of the officers when they come to poly. he told me that other classes have the so call 'planted' questions so the officers will be able to reply them.
his class didn't prepare any question so he shoot out something like this. he asked the officers that if there will a sudden attack from out M neighbour, especially during the eve of chinese new year, how long do u think is able to mobilise everyone back (talking able NS man). And also how many ppl will be willing to come back.
the officers were there standing dun know how to answer his question. so you can imagine about it. think about it. -
These kind of thing how to reply on spot what.
some things how to guarentee?
if the officer say mobilise within 8 hours , then take 8 hours and 1 minute oso cannot what right? then the student will find way to jam the officers on public affairs lah..i also encounter before , got this idiot student keep on asking question during an open house , feel like pointing the howitzer and shuffing into his ass -
Alot of factors actually depends when it comes to defense , it is in the heart and minds of individuals.
You can't have men who drank beer the night on chinese new year's eve to protect singapore within 8 hours what.
Neither can you say the whole 350,000 ns men will be ready to fight when the time comes. -
true lar...if ppl drunk...how to protect singapore?but remember...singapore is a multi-racial country...got other races what...also got some who dun drink...then the family members of the dtrunk ppl can try to make them sober again...
in war...there is bound to have death and injuries...no matter how powerful the enemy is, there is bound to have a weakness...stick as 1 and strike on the enemy's weakness....we are real men....if a time comes, fight for ur country... -
Actually it would take all of the military and government to be sleeping for any country to launch a surprise attack on us.
Unless the launch 1 or 2 battalions only, which will be a pretty futile effort, otherwise mobilizing multiple units - draw arms and ammo, have transport unit start moving in our direction, have ships manourvering to take better blockade or attack positions, numerous aircraft loading and taking off, will definitely draw attention from various monitoring units.
Radar, humit, signals, satellite and other assets would pick up such movements pretty darn quick. -
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be4 they even attack
our navy or airforce would have sensed them and informed the army and in turn they will activate all the Nsmen and NsFs -
Remember somewhere during the 80's Natinoal Day? M***y*ia threathened to attack singspore because of the visiting israeli officials or something?? The tanks were waiting if any m***y*ian soldier crosses the border???
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got one time national day happen b4.....malaysia and indo were having some airborne exercise....CDO were mobilised i think..