Adjusting to civilian life
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Calling all NSman, especially those recently ORD personel, how is your Civilian Conversion Course? any problem adjusting to civilian life?
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if u havent got a job or enter into uni then, those few months of zo bor can be killing....
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in uni hv to think too much leh... not a good start for CCC
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That depends on what you're doing after you ORD.
I had quite a bit of time to adjust. + i went for a 3 month holiday overseas.
Came back, started out on a new job. A little awkward @ first but got the hang of it real quick.
I guess my CCC was quite smooth.
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use less vulgarities
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if you treat yourself as a civilian during your NS term, there isn't much to readjust to. other than learning how to think again.
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I zuo bo lan after ORD and started thinking "DAMMN, shld have use the leaves eariler, rather than storing them for ORD leave"
So unless, u got lobang to keep urself occupied immediately after ORD, distribute the leave throughtout NS term. If not, it can be a DAMMN long zuo bo lan period from time of clearing leave to time when u finally got something to do after ORD . -
wow, u are rich...Originally posted by nomood:I had quite a bit of time to adjust. + i went for a 3 month holiday overseas. -
this is something i find very interesting. imagine a CPL and a 2LT, both diploma holders, ORD at the same time, they apply for the same job as an engineer, i find that both of them are the same, eventhough one is a man and one is an officer, once outside they are equal.
but i believe the CPL can adjust better to the working world outside as compare to the officer. for example the CPL might be a clerk in his NSF days so he'll has a idea on how office management is run.
the CPL is also used to interacting with superiors, listening to orders and getting the job done. but for the 2LT, it might be more difficult since he is used to giving out the orders, less of the get-down-and-do-it type.
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May not be unless the officers dun change their mindset. If they continue wif the kinda attitude, won't go far in the coporate world.Originally posted by Gordonator:this is something i find very interesting. imagine a CPL and a 2LT, both diploma holders, ORD at the same time, they apply for the same job as an engineer, i find that both of them are the same, eventhough one is a man and one is an officer, once outside they are equal.
but i believe the CPL can adjust better to the working world outside as compare to the officer. for example the CPL might be a clerk in his NSF days so he'll has a idea on how office management is run.
the CPL is also used to interacting with superiors, listening to orders and getting the job done. but for the 2LT, it might be more difficult since he is used to giving out the orders, less of the get-down-and-do-it type.
just my 2 cents, what do u think?
Thats why you see many become taxi drivers so that they become their own boss. -
Very true.Originally posted by Gordonator:this is something i find very interesting. imagine a CPL and a 2LT, both diploma holders, ORD at the same time, they apply for the same job as an engineer, i find that both of them are the same, eventhough one is a man and one is an officer, once outside they are equal.
but i believe the CPL can adjust better to the working world outside as compare to the officer. for example the CPL might be a clerk in his NSF days so he'll has a idea on how office management is run.
the CPL is also used to interacting with superiors, listening to orders and getting the job done. but for the 2LT, it might be more difficult since he is used to giving out the orders, less of the get-down-and-do-it type.
just my 2 cents, what do u think?
Anyway I enjoyed my free time..worked on my photography and was part of a local film production.So no time wasted.. -
depends lah some employers may feel that a person has leadership qualities if he is officer during NS especially those govt orgs.Originally posted by Gordonator:this is something i find very interesting. imagine a CPL and a 2LT, both diploma holders, ORD at the same time, they apply for the same job as an engineer, i find that both of them are the same, eventhough one is a man and one is an officer, once outside they are equal.
but i believe the CPL can adjust better to the working world outside as compare to the officer. for example the CPL might be a clerk in his NSF days so he'll has a idea on how office management is run.
the CPL is also used to interacting with superiors, listening to orders and getting the job done. but for the 2LT, it might be more difficult since he is used to giving out the orders, less of the get-down-and-do-it type.
just my 2 cents, what do u think? -
This was hard for me initially, i swore like mad in army...Originally posted by crazy monkey:use less vulgarities
After more than a year, i'm a more refined person liao -
for jobs seeker, u may want to check out this thread for writing the winning resume and other job seeking tips. good luck.
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=159991 -
hahaOriginally posted by Gordonator:this is something i find very interesting. imagine a CPL and a 2LT, both diploma holders, ORD at the same time, they apply for the same job as an engineer, i find that both of them are the same, eventhough one is a man and one is an officer, once outside they are equal.
but i believe the CPL can adjust better to the working world outside as compare to the officer. for example the CPL might be a clerk in his NSF days so he'll has a idea on how office management is run.
the CPL is also used to interacting with superiors, listening to orders and getting the job done. but for the 2LT, it might be more difficult since he is used to giving out the orders, less of the get-down-and-do-it type.
just my 2 cents, what do u think?
my 2IC told us this during our EI survey.
" if u go sispec or ocs it will look good on yr resume because when they compare u with another job seeker with the same grades but with a rank of a cpl, they will choose the sispec/ocs guy.
why? because they have some leadership skills and can lead, inspire and work with others in a grp at work"
me: err.......*speechless*
anyway i do wonder if he has a vested interest when he said that... -
no more $4 anymore.
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then how about those 3sgs from OETI? they do technical things in ns will it increase their chances of applying a job?Originally posted by bismarck:haha
my 2IC told us this during our EI survey.
" if u go sispec or ocs it will look good on yr resume because when they compare u with another job seeker with the same grades but with a rank of a cpl, they will choose the sispec/ocs guy.
why? because they have some leadership skills and can lead, inspire and work with others in a grp at work"
me: err.......*speechless*
anyway i do wonder if he has a vested interest when he said that... -
Well i just ord about a few months ago n i was an armt tech too,i think the stuff learn in army is completely useless in searching for a job in the society.Unless working as a tech in ODE,that one i am not sure liao.Originally posted by chikopek:then how about those 3sgs from OETI? they do technical things in ns will it increase their chances of applying a job? -
When you receive a call-up.......the feeling is really sian
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ODE might take you in, but you still need your certs.It's not as if you are joining them as a retired 1WO.Originally posted by KenPlus:Well i just ord about a few months ago n i was an armt tech too,i think the stuff learn in army is completely useless in searching for a job in the society.Unless working as a tech in ODE,that one i am not sure liao. -
Adjusting to CV life? No problems, the moment u recieve ur pink ic back into ur hands... u will adjust! =D
It was an auto-adjustment for me... so it was quite easy. No more SOC, no more IPPT, no more SGT sayang me... doo da doo da daeee!!!! -
i never went for civillian conversion course. wat for?Originally posted by Gordonator:Calling all NSman, especially those recently ORD personel, how is your Civilian Conversion Course? any problem adjusting to civilian life? 
its not about wat they tell u there, its about wat u plan for your life. -
strange, i'm actually looking forward to it.Originally posted by maggot:When you receive a call-up.......the feeling is really sian -
what film?Originally posted by LazerLordz:Very true.
Anyway I enjoyed my free time..worked on my photography and was part of a local film production.So no time wasted..
army daze? -
Originally posted by SMAPLionHeart:what film?
army daze? 