Chemical Warfare Experience: Gas Chamber
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I recently went to Seletar Camp for an experience of tears gas in a chamber in MOPP4 suit. Stinged my eyes like hell, choking, dry throat... but overall, it was an unforgetable experience..
I think every combat unit personnels will go thru this right? Share yours...? -
yah...had it think about 4 times.... 2 times in NSF.
2 in ICT, on one occassion, was also in charged in the chamber burning the pills....
last time i remember they burn 1/2 pill to 1 pill i cannot make it liao....that's when the room is saturated....
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Guys, to set the record straight, the right term to use is 'Smoke Trainer'. And not gas chamber! It uses a mild form of riot control agent called CS gas (O-Chlorobenzylidene malononitrile). It is completely safe for for usage under ideal training circumstances provided the dosage used is in accordance to exisiting training directives and TSR
Gas Chamber on the other hand is a term that is frequently used to describe the killing faciliites that the Nazis used to great effect in the WW2. The gas that was used was Zyklon B, a form of hydrogen cynaide (blood agents as it is commonly known; a class of CW agents)
Hope this sets the record straight and people will start using the right terminology to describe the right training facilities that we use for training.
The misuse of the this 'gas chamber' phrase has created quite a urban legend on its own, and has led trainees to fear for the worst for such training, when in fact this training is even safer than taking a IPPT/life run!! It's record speaks for itself.
So guys, it is SMOKE TRAINER. -
Almost all PES fit ppl must go in....even includes technicians etcOriginally posted by Luc85:I recently went to Seletar Camp for an experience of tears gas in a chamber in MOPP4 suit. Stinged my eyes like hell, choking, dry throat... but overall, it was an unforgetable experience..
I think every combat unit personnels will go thru this right? Share yours...?
I've gone in 3 times in my NS life, once as trainee, twice as instructor in charge of the pellets
Pretty fun inside...haha. Can stay inside all e way
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Staying in MOP 4 for too long will dehydrates a person its too stuffy and hot. especially in Singapore cilmate.Originally posted by deathscythe99:Pretty fun inside...haha. Can stay inside all e way -
I knowOriginally posted by ahtansh:Staying in MOP 4 for too long will dehydrates a person its too stuffy and hot. especially in Singapore cilmate.
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but the MRF wears it as standard uniform of the day.....prolly mop3 most of the time....and mop4 during PT...runs....marches...Originally posted by ahtansh:Staying in MOP 4 for too long will dehydrates a person its too stuffy and hot. especially in Singapore cilmate. -
what is the diff betw mopp 3 and 4? and no lah. i havent seen them doing PT and runs, and seldom see them do marches in mopp 4.Originally posted by Rockhound:but the MRF wears it as standard uniform of the day.....prolly mop3 most of the time....and mop4 during PT...runs....marches... -
I forgot what else is not on.. correct me if i wrong?Originally posted by wuming78:what is the diff betw mopp 3 and 4? and no lah. i havent seen them doing PT and runs, and seldom see them do marches in mopp 4.
Mopp 1 is basic, without the top
Mopp 2 is with top
Mopp 3 is with inner gloves, boots, protective gloves
Mopp 4 is with mask -
Isn't MOPP 3 already with mask? and MOPP 4 with the outer layers of gloves and outer boot cover?Originally posted by deathscythe99:I forgot what else is not on.. correct me if i wrong?
Mopp 1 is basic, without the top
Mopp 2 is with top
Mopp 3 is with inner gloves, boots, protective gloves
Mopp 4 is with mask -
I forgotOriginally posted by LazerLordz:Isn't MOPP 3 already with mask? and MOPP 4 with the outer layers of gloves and outer boot cover?
Now that you say it....yea I think it's that way...
CD is not really an integral part of my NS life -
Not mine eitherOriginally posted by deathscythe99:I forgot
Now that you say it....yea I think it's that way...
CD is not really an integral part of my NS life -
gone thru once and only once during BCTC, got snooked by the instructors to wash our eyes under the running tap after we have removed our masks in the room.... knn bloodly stinging to the eyes....
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ya lor...singapore govt is not trying to exterminate u all by the term gas chamber...Originally posted by juay323:Guys, to set the record straight, the right term to use is 'Smoke Trainer'. And not gas chamber! It uses a mild form of riot control agent called CS gas (O-Chlorobenzylidene malononitrile). It is completely safe for for usage under ideal training circumstances provided the dosage used is in accordance to exisiting training directives and TSR
Gas Chamber on the other hand is a term that is frequently used to describe the killing faciliites that the Nazis used to great effect in the WW2. The gas that was used was Zyklon B, a form of hydrogen cynaide (blood agents as it is commonly known; a class of CW agents)
Hope this sets the record straight and people will start using the right terminology to describe the right training facilities that we use for training.
The misuse of the this 'gas chamber' phrase has created quite a urban legend on its own, and has led trainees to fear for the worst for such training, when in fact this training is even safer than taking a IPPT/life run!! It's record speaks for itself.
So guys, it is SMOKE TRAINER. -
Have you gone inside the gas chamber with ammonia gas inside?
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anyone care to run 2.4km with ur gas mask on?
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Originally posted by Mospeada:anyone care to run 2.4km with ur gas mask on?
My unit did that ... -
which unit are u from?Originally posted by askxyz: My unit did that ... -
Actually, in MOPP3, your rubber booties are also put on.
MOPP4 only requires you to add on the gloves and cover up your hood. -
ya correct.Originally posted by insouciant:Actually, in MOPP3, your rubber booties are also put on.
MOPP4 only requires you to add on the gloves and cover up your hood.
got one unit they train in gas mask for 2.4 and also play games in gas mask too -
the chemical defence unit?Originally posted by CSM:ya correct.
got one unit they train in gas mask for 2.4 and also play games in gas mask too
i dunoe wat is it called... -
Originally posted by CSM:ya correct.
got one unit they train in gas mask for 2.4 and also play games in gas mask too -
CBRE?Originally posted by alwaysdisturbed:the chemical defence unit?
i dunoe wat is it called...
Btw can get MOPP 4 in beach road?
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y do u wan dat?Originally posted by gnoik:CBRE?
Btw can get MOPP 4 in beach road?
u scared cold? -
Aiya my unit lah... 3x SCE...Originally posted by CSM:ya correct.
got one unit they train in gas mask for 2.4 and also play games in gas mask too