well ok. throw him in DB then. and kill of whatever tiny culture we're so desperately trying to build.Originally posted by dragg:that's double standard.
just because his carreer is unique does not mean he deserves to be given special treatment.
well, too bad i am not in the position to decide.Originally posted by HENG@:well ok. throw him in DB then. and kill of whatever tiny culture we're so desperately trying to build.
Like i said, mozart, chopin n bach never had to serve in NS or deal with bullshit like reservist. maybe thats why we have nothing to be really proud of in the cultural world.
I am glad he did. It shows someone is thinking more with their hearts n minds than thinking with the book.Originally posted by dragg:well, too bad i am not in the position to decide.
he obviously got away with it.![]()
Originally posted by iveco:for Fuck??? ORD and ROD together? kum lan
[b]Pianist pays NS dues - 28 years later
In 1994, The Straits Times quoted a lawyer who said that one of his clients, a 39-year-old French citizen, was arrested at the airport on arrival, fined and made to complete nine months of training.
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send 007 to UK to catch him ah?Originally posted by Gordonator:haha. SAF should have send MPs to catch him back to serve his NS back in 1977, when he's still a singapore citizen.![]()
Mossad is a real bastard indeed. They kidnapped Vanunu from Italy and brought him back to face an 18-year jail term for revealing Israel's nuclear ambitions.Originally posted by HENG@:send 007 to UK to catch him ah?
we're not quite totally as bastard as the Mossad leh.![]()
They still have the victim syndrome. They think that just becos they suffered the holocaust they can use that as an excuse to be a menance and use strong-arm tatics.Originally posted by iveco:Mossad is a real bastard indeed. They kidnapped Vanunu from Italy and brought him back to face an 18-year jail term for revealing Israel's nuclear ambitions.
Which is why we have to be careful not to adopt too much of Israeli mentality.Originally posted by HENG@:They still have the victim syndrome. They think that just becos they suffered the holocaust they can use that as an excuse to be a menance and use strong-arm tatics.
"They kidnapped Vanunu from Italy and brought him back to face an 18-year jail term for revealing Israel's nuclear ambitions."Originally posted by the Bear:to those who rant on his side, what do you think?
he was a singapore citizen who committed an offense before he became a UK citizen..
now, if he became a UK citizen before NS, there would not be an issue...
however, he committed the offense knowingly..
it IS a matter of sovereignty... i don't think you singapore bashers would even think about that..
so, are you saying that the crimes people have committed cannot be pursued by the country where the crime was commited because the perp is an alien?
what i would say is that he got of easily.. but looking at the circumstances, how else would you want to "punish" the man?
let it be..
as for the Mossad.. "victim mentality" or not, they do things that i would support... in a world where a slip would see them annihilated, would you, as an Israeli, sleep better with them on the prowl?
yea. but that never takes into account the absoluteness of how the world benefits as a whole does it?Originally posted by the Bear:nuclear secrets.. think about it..
i'd say any country, can deal with their own people who are guilty of treason..
seriously...
You cannot become an UK citizen before the age of 18.By the time you are 18, the SAF act has already been in force over you.It's a no-win situation.Anyway, case is closed and the long term future of Singapore in the nurturing of culture and the arts takes precedence over punitive punishment.Originally posted by the Bear:to those who rant on his side, what do you think?
he was a singapore citizen who committed an offense before he became a UK citizen..
now, if he became a UK citizen before NS, there would not be an issue...
however, he committed the offense knowingly..
it IS a matter of sovereignty... i don't think you singapore bashers would even think about that..
so, are you saying that the crimes people have committed cannot be pursued by the country where the crime was commited because the perp is an alien?
what i would say is that he got of easily.. but looking at the circumstances, how else would you want to "punish" the man?
let it be..
as for the Mossad.. "victim mentality" or not, they do things that i would support... in a world where a slip would see them annihilated, would you, as an Israeli, sleep better with them on the prowl?
Sometimes international interests have to take precedence over narrowminded national interest.That is the basis of a global civil society movement.Originally posted by HENG@:yea. but that never takes into account the absoluteness of how the world benefits as a whole does it?
Better we know about their nuclear ambitions, than to have them suddenly lob one at us one day, without us even knowing they have nukes.
Or more unpleasantly, lets not have the events of Tom Clancy's Sum of All Fears happen to us.