PIE, Eng Neo Exit @ 1200H
-
the print press is no longer the only source of information bro ....Originally posted by will4:I sure the sentencing will not be published in the newspaper.
look at where we are now ...
-
onz! tell me time place and pm me ur no! we go anytime! i too bored at home ler!Originally posted by LazerLordz:]
okay la, Mandai Rd's The Prata House can or not? 
-
Very near my camp. good good.Originally posted by binZ:onz! tell me time place and pm me ur no! we go anytime! i too bored at home ler!
i'm the one who saw the commotion. so i deserved a treat also. if not for my discovery den no such thread, den no treat for u.
so a prata for me is not too much heh?
-
ok ok ok.. 1 prata for u~ happy? =DOriginally posted by casshern:Very near my camp. good good.
i'm the one who saw the commotion. so i deserved a treat also. if not for my discovery den no such thread, den no treat for u.
so a prata for me is not too much heh? -
sweee, my prata will be mushroom + cheese + onions + chocolate + straberry + banana + milkOriginally posted by binZ:ok ok ok.. 1 prata for u~ happy? =D -
Lost apache? U mean it wasn't one of our VF-1S that had to gerwalk land cos its Navigation system got attacked by virus, and had to make an emergency landing? The M-16 story was just a false cover for the Lost apache, which itself was a false cover for our downed valkryie.
-
Originally posted by iveco:It is the bloody truth about life as a Singaporean. Frankly, I am all for lowering the voting age.
What would it help with a lowered voting age? -
Depends on how u want to manipulate the statistics.
-
For once, I'm inclined to support Iveco.Originally posted by deathscythe99:
What would it help with a lowered voting age?
Personally, and to many others too, if you are old enough to bear arms and be a soldier, you are old enough to vote in your nation's elections.To disallow our serving NSFs a vote and a say, is very regrettable.
But that's an issue for another time.So let's not have anymore of that here.Thanks.
-
It's not too much.Originally posted by lwflee:49 days DB is too much! I dun think anyone will really complain if he gets a non-custodial or a very short custodial sentence. After all he at least served his NS, unlike some we know!
Of the loss and eventual recovery of rifle cases i know, they have been getting 3 to 4 months DB.
Not to mention a de-commissioning also. This is as much as i would say. -
if u can find such a prata shop around, i buy the prata for u~ >.<Originally posted by casshern:sweee, my prata will be mushroom + cheese + onions + chocolate + straberry + banana + milk -
You are judging the legth of the sentence with reference to precedence. I am saying that 49 Days is too much full-stop. Its a different matter altogether.Originally posted by Ponders:It's not too much.
Of the loss and eventual recovery of rifle cases i know, they have been getting 3 to 4 months DB.
Not to mention a de-commissioning also. This is as much as i would say.
Losing a rifle is at worse a crime of recklesness. More liklely, it is due to inadvertant carelessness. I do not think we should punish someone so severely for being careless, especially when the rifle has been recovered. I also think that the consequences of losing a rifle has been overstated. It is not a huge matter that one or two Sg made rifle has found its way into terrorist hands. As long as the numbers are low, and the loss has been properly recorded, and accoutned, no one can accuse singapore of supplying arms to terrorists. -
I am not actually in opinion with this. Cuz let's say if indeed it is due to inadvertant carelessness, but if it caused subsequent larger repercussions, such as terrorists gotten the arms, or a shot fire at mac donalds or goldsmith shops, etc...people die etc...who's gonna account for it or ultimately the source still boils down to the lost rifle.Originally posted by lwflee:You are judging the legth of the sentence with reference to precedence. I am saying that 49 Days is too much full-stop. Its a different matter altogether.
Losing a rifle is at worse a crime of recklesness. More liklely, it is due to inadvertant carelessness. I do not think we should punish someone so severely for being careless, especially when the rifle has been recovered. I also think that the consequences of losing a rifle has been overstated. It is not a huge matter that one or two Sg made rifle has found its way into terrorist hands. As long as the numbers are low, and the loss has been properly recorded, and accoutned, no one can accuse singapore of supplying arms to terrorists.
Same thing in civil suits, careless (might be inadvertent) driving causes people to die (knock down accidents), or careless construction worker never put chains properly end up the whole load fell and smashed to his colleague causing instant death, careless mah-pu-poh (rag collector) accidentally dropped a large TV from 6th floor HDB etc.
And next thing, EVEN if IT is due to carelessness (inadvertent), but IF the person is PERPERTUALLY careless due to his less than care nature, bo-chap, etc, then some punishment may be good in a sense, it may shake him up and bring him to senses the repercussions of his actions, so that next time, after ORD, he will NOT make even greater or deadlier mistakes.
-
Aiyah, why waste taxpayers money keeping him in DB? Give him a dishonourable discharge gao dim liao.
-
then there'll be lotsa lost rifles around the island.
-
if he's a NSman, dishonourable discharge doesn't matter..
-
So many people questioned why 400 men are necessary to search for an M16 . Its the same reason why this thread got 10 pages. Forummers are thinking, M16 only what so worked up on it? Then why is so many ppl interested in this incident? So ironic.
And so many conspiracy theories, relax man it really was only one M16.
Secondly everybody knows SAF is kiasu what.
That section kenna 10 day SOL my camp DO confirm super sian. haha every hour must go let them report to him. Not sure tts true. Not sure of that guys punishment also will see... -
I agree. If we do not take a tough stance on certain issues, guess we will not have such a respected judicial system. For example the tough stance on armed robbery and kidnapping.Originally posted by nightzip:I am not actually in opinion with this. Cuz let's say if indeed it is due to inadvertant carelessness, but if it caused subsequent larger repercussions, such as terrorists gotten the arms, or a shot fire at mac donalds or goldsmith shops, etc...people die etc...who's gonna account for it or ultimately the source still boils down to the lost rifle.
Same thing in civil suits, careless (might be inadvertent) driving causes people to die (knock down accidents), or careless construction worker never put chains properly end up the whole load fell and smashed to his colleague causing instant death, careless mah-pu-poh (rag collector) accidentally dropped a large TV from 6th floor HDB etc.
And next thing, EVEN if IT is due to carelessness (inadvertent), but IF the person is PERPERTUALLY careless due to his less than care nature, bo-chap, etc, then some punishment may be good in a sense, it may shake him up and bring him to senses the repercussions of his actions, so that next time, after ORD, he will NOT make even greater or deadlier mistakes.
Imagine the case where the 3 armed robbers land in Tekong. If the gahmen mentality is , " Aiya, only 3 armed robbers with 2 pistols nia, in Tekong somemore.Accounted for. No worries no worries ."Then the next thing you know, armed robberies in Pasir Ris , DBS in Shenton way being emptied etc.
Remember the May Bank in Bukit Timah being robbed by a robber with fake pistol ?
I'm glad the gahmen is tough on these few areas though there are other area where the gahmen can improve on. -
I have a friend from OCS who lost his M 16 in Mandai . This was earlier than my time in the early 80s. M16 was later found by the topo instructors. But he was not charged.Originally posted by Guile:I think its because the item is lost at a location where it is easily accesible by the public. its beside the road and near a golf course.
So they arent taking any chances as who knows some illegal may be harbouring in that area and happen to stumble upon it.
Somebody may have noticed the comotion at the area while travelling along the road and called a reporter.
The trainee is gonna get DB for sure, i knew someone in my unit who lost a rifle and was sent to db too.
But they waited till he finished his junior term and OOCed him and made him repeat in SAFINCOS.
He is still very sore about this episode, after so many years. -
If some asshole sabo his mate by taking and hiding his stuff (be it rifle, magazine, jerry can or whatever), after that forgetting where it was, won't it be terrible for that guy who 'lost it'?
-
agreed... i will have the "rather kill wrongly den to let off any" kind of approachOriginally posted by pufferfish_79:I agree. If we do not take a tough stance on certain issues, guess we will not have such a respected judicial system. For example the tough stance on armed robbery and kidnapping.
Imagine the case where the 3 armed robbers land in Tekong. If the gahmen mentality is , " Aiya, only 3 armed robbers with 2 pistols nia, in Tekong somemore.Accounted for. No worries no worries ."Then the next thing you know, armed robberies in Pasir Ris , DBS in Shenton way being emptied etc.
Remember the May Bank in Bukit Timah being robbed by a robber with fake pistol ?
I'm glad the gahmen is tough on these few areas though there are other area where the gahmen can improve on. -
Hahha.. the Butt number come out in 4D... but tiao zi...
