OCS Sword is real or fake?
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ya..they have been issuing ceremonial swords to all officers...for how many years..that I'm not sure..Originally posted by i-SHOT:Dude, since when did they give swords out to all officers? At least not during my time; only sword winners were given one. That is great news if they are giving it to all OCS graduates; they deserve one.
And the sword is neither fake nor real, it's simply a ceremonial sword. And as was mentioned, it does come engraved with your name, your class and your rank. Here's a pix. Anyone recognise the gent handing out the sword? If you do, you're probably an old fart like me
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it looks like Winston Choo handing out the swords.My Wing Comd did tell me back in the 80s, swords were only given out to SOMs and SOHs, and anyone else who wanted to buy a sword had to pay for one out of their own pockets.
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Yeah bro, it is indeed him. Whatever happened to the general? FYI, I don't think they were even offering the swords for sale during my time. Anyway, like I said, I'm very glad to hear all the officers are getting one. It's a piece of pride and joy that has travelled with me all over the world.Originally posted by one-niner:it looks like Winston Choo handing out the swords.My Wing Comd did tell me back in the 80s, swords were only given out to SOMs and SOHs, and anyone else who wanted to buy a sword had to pay for one out of their own pockets. -
How about issuing bayonets to the 2SGs (Combat) and above. Those that finish the platoon sergeant course? (how about those UNSHARPENed bayonets?)Originally posted by Ponders:SISPEC and SAFWOS was actually considering giving out bayonets to fresh specialist back in early 2000s. They plan to give it as a milestone for the first & subsequent graduate batch of SISPEC in SWI.
But they got issues to settle.
1) Swords to officer is a long and international tradition. I have known no armies giving any symbols of rank to NCOs other than RSMs.
2) Swords are "fake" as in other than symbol, they don't have much practical use . Unless you sharpen it yourself.
3) Bayonets are the real stuff. a new bayonet from ALB is actually sharp and a weapon.
4) there are approximately 2600-2800 3SGs being appointed annually. I think it will be a cost issue.
5) 3SGs get promoted by vocaton and there is no ceremony for all Army Specs. organising one will be diffucult since their Speciality course varies in duration. WO claimed this will not put any meaning to the bayonets if ceremonies are small scale.
So in conclusion. SISPEC and SAFWOS did not conclude anything.
Anyway, all this info i got is from a SISPEC conference back then.
or issuing baton to the CSMs when they finish the CSM course?
You can consolidate all the CSMs in the whole WORKYEAR who had attended the CSM course, ask them to go back to PLC camp or SAFWOS to have a big ceremony. (low cost, good morale booster, and the baton is not sharp). -
Mr Choo enjoying a gd life along with Denis Foo and Europa HoldingsOriginally posted by i-SHOT:Yeah bro, it is indeed him. Whatever happened to the general? FYI, I don't think they were even offering the swords for sale during my time. Anyway, like I said, I'm very glad to hear all the officers are getting one. It's a piece of pride and joy that has travelled with me all over the world. -
Good for him. Thanks for the info, bro.Originally posted by one-niner:Mr Choo enjoying a gd life along with Denis Foo and Europa Holdings -
The sword is not technically a "real" sword" it's just a piece of shaped steel
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A trophy is also made up of scape metal yet it is still prize after by many sportmen. The meaning behind these possesion are far-etch than the material itself.Originally posted by |-|05|:The sword is not technically a "real" sword" it's just a piece of shaped steel
Beside, the sword are meant to be use for ceremonial event not to poke enemy. SAF can well-afford guns.