Exclusive Debate In SAF!!!
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In recent years, the discipline in the SAF has been deteroirating.
If you are on the opposition side, how wll you debate on this motion?
Helmi
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in point form.
1) we are a conscription, non voluntary force, draconian rules will lead to havoc if discipline is uptight and not flexbile.
2) much of the discipline in the past is based on unnecessary regimentation, though it is indirectly linked to their operational discipline, many will not see this if they are always subjected to this regimentation without the understanding the rationale.
3) current day discipline is more focused on operational aspects, i believe we still maintain the standard during outfield at a somewhat acceptable manner.
4) you teach the men about field discipline, they can't see the importance now, but during real war time i think they will keep themselves automatic as it is between HIS OWN life & death.
5) being non voluntary force, we must win hearts instead of forcing their hearts. we must make people be people to serve their countries. it is just unfortunate that some people we take this soft approach for granted and gain for their selfish reasons. -
when it's time to be serious, u work hard and do your duty. when it's time to wind down, relax, u play hard. simple as that.
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I truly agree!Originally posted by Gordonator:when it's time to be serious, u work hard and do your duty. when it's time to wind down, relax, u play hard. simple as that.
BUT when to really draw the line btw the two? -
when an actual war breaks out.Originally posted by gnoik:I truly agree!
BUT when to really draw the line btw the two? -
sounds like a report to be handed in...
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Great suggestions!!! Thanks a lot
But how will you counter if the proposition team mention that the recent dunking case and other negative, pertinent events are explicit examples that the discipline in the SAF has detorirate?
Helmi
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Tell them to serve the army first before being in the proposition.Originally posted by gatherin:Great suggestions!!! Thanks a lot
But how will you counter if the proposition team mention that the recent dunking case and other negative, pertinent events are explicit examples that the discipline in the SAF has detorirate?
Helmi
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If they served already, tell them they should know the answer.
I don't see the dunking case as a discipline problem. Its a systematic problem.
It's a problem where a tradition was simply passed down where dunking was part of the training.
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hehehe...We are from the suppply supervisors from sembawang camp.
We will debate this motion. I will be from the opposition team. More help is much appreciated...Thanks...
Helmi
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How to i counter examples like NSF caught with camera phones and NSF caught smoking in public as a clear indication that discipline in the SAF has detiorarate?
Helmi
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dude u from G1 army?
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crazy whats wrong with smoking...as long as you are not underageOriginally posted by gatherin:How to i counter examples like NSF caught with camera phones and NSF caught smoking in public as a clear indication that discipline in the SAF has detiorarate?
Helmi
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Many commanders themselves smoke. Can we say they lack disipline?Originally posted by Simon Dean:crazy whats wrong with smoking...as long as you are not underage
BTW, I had one PC who had hentai and sex videos on his laptop. My friend showed them to me while we were cleaning his office. -
SSG Francis or MSG Kanan thereOriginally posted by gatherin:hehehe...We are from the suppply supervisors from sembawang camp.
We will debate this motion. I will be from the opposition team. More help is much appreciated...Thanks...
Helmi
www.gatherinfo.com