Officers that you salute from the bottom of your heart ?
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i only rmr saluting to the flag leh...
even in BMT i also dun feel like saluting my PC... he also nv say anything leh... in my unit,when i see my sirs, i only greet them nia... like nv salute be4... but there are some regulars i really respect lah. -
anyone ever came across officers who will stop u and say "why u didn't slaute me"?
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My friend got the opposite situation.... because he is a LCP, he usually do all the fatigue work.Originally posted by Marco_Simone:I still remember my ORD range exactly one year ago.
I(from HQ coy) was part of the advance party together with some sect coms and excuse/light duties PTEs(both from coy line)
The men were filling up sandbags and carrying them to the firing area.The SGTs just stood around and talked co-ck/cracked jokes and laughed(at the sand area)while their men were hard at work filling and carrying the heavy sandbags.I also helped out.
I felt damm pissed,so I gave them a piece of my mind:"hey SGTs,your men working so hard yet you standing there enjoying yourself,can help a bit?"
They looked so stunned.Some of them diao3 me a bit,eventually none of them helped their men and walked away.They went to the training shed to read FHM...
What the FU-CK MAN???
Then he was attached to a convoy that is going to destruct "surplus or older ammunition". Because he is not ammo trained he is not allowed to be involved in the destruction.
The destruction required digging deep and only ammo trained personnel allowed, and these happens to be specialists and officers.
So that day, my friend, the drivers, storeman that day just sit around at the tonner watching the specialist and officers dig.
But to empathise your situation, i will never allow that to happen, sergeants even though they can don't dig i don't think they should also just be cracking jokes by your side.
If i were them, i would either help out or at least supervise the situation to see how labour can be deployed so work can be done faster and more efficiently. -
not me personally... but my men always kena. and it's from ppl i expect the least, like CO, S3, etc.Originally posted by Gordonator:anyone ever came across officers who will stop u and say "why u didn't slaute me"?
But when ever i salute CO out of respect, he scolded me instead, saying, if wartime everybody salute me i kena sniper how? -
in my camp there's this ya ya COL, head of CBRE. whenever u see his blue volvo arrives, u better get ready to slaute him, or else u will sure get scolding from him.
that's not all, then next day he will surely shoot down an e-mail to the department, saying who and who didn't salute him. -
Hehe. Next time if got ops, keep saluting those officers you hate.Originally posted by Ponders:not me personally... but my men always kena. and it's from ppl i expect the least, like CO, S3, etc.
But when ever i salute CO out of respect, he scolded me instead, saying, if wartime everybody salute me i kena sniper how?
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i don't think the SGTs mentioned are sect cmdrs. coz' if they are doing that and their men are working, they are gonna get hell during exercisesOriginally posted by Marco_Simone:I still remember my ORD range exactly one year ago.
I(from HQ coy) was part of the advance party together with some sect coms and excuse/light duties PTEs(both from coy line)
The men were filling up sandbags and carrying them to the firing area.The SGTs just stood around and talked co-ck/cracked jokes and laughed(at the sand area)while their men were hard at work filling and carrying the heavy sandbags.I also helped out.
I felt damm pissed,so I gave them a piece of my mind:"hey SGTs,your men working so hard yet you standing there enjoying yourself,can help a bit?"
They looked so stunned.Some of them diao3 me a bit,eventually none of them helped their men and walked away.They went to the training shed to read FHM...
What the FU-CK MAN??? -
Wonder his children need to salute him when they woke up in the morning "Good morning Pa!"Originally posted by Gordonator:in my camp there's this ya ya COL, head of CBRE. whenever u see his blue volvo arrives, u better get ready to slaute him, or else u will sure get scolding from him.
that's not all, then next day he will surely shoot down an e-mail to the department, saying who and who didn't salute him. -
Yes,they are sect coms.Originally posted by 12qwaszx:i don't think the SGTs mentioned are sect cmdrs. coz' if they are doing that and their men are working, they are gonna get hell during exercises
19+ year old Air level kids just out from SISPEC.
By the way,I was also a SGT,not from SISPEC,but from OETI.
Cb,remember one of the kids really diao me.Knn,felt like telling him:
"hey kiddo,when I enlisted in dec 1998,where the fu-ck were you? Still in sec 2 learning how to masturbate!" -
With regards to this matter, u remember the red beret kena investigated for cheating in the IPPT back some year ago, LRI also go cheat.Originally posted by Aveme:you dun know what is politics meh? CO wants the unit to challenge for best combat unit and stuff so his achievement will look good
RSM also want to show good result to CO mah so he very insistent loh,that unless the company get 90% gold,he will specifically ask those who fail to retake and retake again. -
I had a lot of problem with those kiddo instructors at BMTC, especially when they tried to pull rank on my fellow mates in Recourse.Especially those who were PTEs at that time.Originally posted by Marco_Simone:Yes,they are sect coms.
19+ year old Air level kids just out from SISPEC.
By the way,I was also a SGT,not from SISPEC,but from OETI.
Cb,remember one of the kids really diao me.Knn,felt like telling him:
"hey kiddo,when I enlisted in dec 1998,where the fu-ck were you? Still in sec 2 learning how to masturbate!"
We bunch of soon to ORD SGTs saved a few asses
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respect is not an entitlement. it is earned!!Originally posted by Gordonator:anyone ever came across officers who will stop u and say "why u didn't slaute me"? -
Overall last time my camp officers are quite ok lah,normal loh,never pull rank but also not friendly.Bo chup is good
As for saltue,dun really bother hahaa,BMT got lah ,unit dun really care -
well that is fucked. up then but eventually these people are likely to change if they stick together into reservist when these Sgt,officer are more matured in helping out around.Originally posted by Marco_Simone:I still remember my ORD range exactly one year ago.
I(from HQ coy) was part of the advance party together with some sect coms and excuse/light duties PTEs(both from coy line)
The men were filling up sandbags and carrying them to the firing area.The SGTs just stood around and talked co-ck/cracked jokes and laughed(at the sand area)while their men were hard at work filling and carrying the heavy sandbags.I also helped out.
I felt damm pissed,so I gave them a piece of my mind:"hey SGTs,your men working so hard yet you standing there enjoying yourself,can help a bit?"
They looked so stunned.Some of them diao3 me a bit,eventually none of them helped their men and walked away.They went to the training shed to read FHM...
What the FU-CK MAN???
That is why i respected my bmt PC very much then,even though we were teken really badly but he himself will join into the tekan as well as get the SGT involved,we do push up and whatever phsycial exercise non stop,he also join in do with us,we go outfield learn leopard crawl,roll in mud and he will be the first to demostrate and get dirty as well.That is the treatment he give to even BMT recruits,showing he can and will lead by example of what he ask of his men to do,that is why even thou BMT was tough,no complains about it like so many recruits complain about their BMT.Turning ops and being lead by another PC who cannot lead by example is really a big world of difference. -
well i can only say the army system is fucked. upOriginally posted by will4:With regards to this matter, u remember the red beret kena investigated for cheating in the IPPT back some year ago, LRI also go cheat. -
the divide between men and cmdr are greater only in the schools as there's the trainee/trainer difference
whereas in unit, everyone is part of a team with their own part to play to accomplish a common goal -
My unit got too many officers so nobody actually bothers to salute. We just greet them. One of my WOs derserves respect as even though he is strict with his men, if he knows he's in the wrong, he will rather get punished than push the blame to his men.