where do i do now?
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just completed bmt, i guessed being in a welfare coy didnt really benefit me afterall. though i trained otot but then now still fail ippt. so now i go unit become men? co said you cant go to command schools if you fail ippt, is that true? because i know of a sgt that went to sispec although he failed his ippt during bmt.
erm, i think i done reasonably well for my sit test, peer appraisal and other components. is it possible for me to make it to sispec? i'll be more than happy to make it there. -
thx to all of u failures...i'm so busy nw..
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Failing IPPT doesn't mean much, you can still be in command school for combat support or service ..
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sorry pti.Originally posted by alwaysdisturbed:thx to all of u failures...i'm so busy nw..
erm command school for support? confirm cant go sispec? -
I thought failed IPPT => go for BMT recourse?Originally posted by thousandisland:just completed bmt, i guessed being in a welfare coy didnt really benefit me afterall. though i trained otot but then now still fail ippt. so now i go unit become men? co said you cant go to command schools if you fail ippt, is that true? because i know of a sgt that went to sispec although he failed his ippt during bmt.
erm, i think i done reasonably well for my sit test, peer appraisal and other components. is it possible for me to make it to sispec? i'll be more than happy to make it there.
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Now fail ippt oso can pass out le. Not like last time!Originally posted by cornyfish2000:I thought failed IPPT => go for BMT recourse? 
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Wow, the world has changed so much. Too many people must have been failing their IPPT.Originally posted by gnoik:Now fail ippt oso can pass out le. Not like last time! 
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put it this way, pass IPPT comfirm can go SISPEC, the more outstanding ones will go OCS. but that doesn't means fail IPPT cannot go command school. of course lah, they will give priority to those who pass, and select the rest from those who fail.Originally posted by thousandisland:just completed bmt, i guessed being in a welfare coy didnt really benefit me afterall. though i trained otot but then now still fail ippt. so now i go unit become men? co said you cant go to command schools if you fail ippt, is that true? because i know of a sgt that went to sispec although he failed his ippt during bmt.
erm, i think i done reasonably well for my sit test, peer appraisal and other components. is it possible for me to make it to sispec? i'll be more than happy to make it there. -
thousandisland u frm ptp batch???...y u all so enthu wanna go command schs one...of cos for me i m praying damm hard i dun go there now man...but i pass my ippt n soc also...i jus hope my peer appraisal n sit test fail so i wont go sispec man...so my chance of going to more relaxed unit is very slim??..shit man..n i dun understand 1 thing..i m not a left hander..so how m i going to handle the new sar21??..sar21 is a right handed rifle rite???...
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yah ptp batch. erm, i wan tougher training to get fitter both physically and mentally. ns took 2 years of my life, might as well make the best of it.
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very good! that's should be the correct mindset. that's also exactly what i've been trying to encourage everyone, namely since you are already in it, might as well make the best out of it.Originally posted by thousandisland:yah ptp batch. erm, i wan tougher training to get fitter both physically and mentally. ns took 2 years of my life, might as well make the best of it.
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yah but kinda disappointed even after 3 months still cant pass lah. if only i was in ninja or mohawk.
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Which station u fail in IPPT?Originally posted by thousandisland:yah but kinda disappointed even after 3 months still cant pass lah. if only i was in ninja or mohawk. -
when will u get to know ur posting?
meanwhile u having a break rite? take this time to train up on ur fitness.. go 4 runs, swims, etc.... -
if they hvn't meet the quota entries for command schs den they'll look into those who failed borderline cases....dats y some made it though they fail...Originally posted by Gordonator:put it this way, pass IPPT comfirm can go SISPEC, the more outstanding ones will go OCS. but that doesn't means fail IPPT cannot go command school. of course lah, they will give priority to those who pass, and select the rest from those who fail.
but when u go ocs, sispec or ur specialist course...u hv to pass...otherwise its back to square one...out of course... -
Not true. Dun worry. From my experience, if ur poly result and A level result is veri good and u are not the trouble maker of the platoon, Likely u will go to OCS or SISPEC. At the end of the BMT, there will be this peer appraisal thingy, this one must be good if u wanna go OCS. They will want to list the top5 ppl u like of the platoon and top 5 u dislike most. RUMOR, or should I say it is the truth, if ur name is high on everyone's list, u go to OCS, BUT if u kanna the bottom of the list.........., u might end up in siong units like Guards.
I did my BMT in January 2003. Then, the OCS wannabes were trying to wayang or should I say make themselves look smart in front of other, by criticising others leadership. There were those that gang up together, to vote for one another in the top5 list, and they even try to align with others to vote a particular guy into the bottom5. I was actually one of the victim that was sabo-ed into the bottom5. Bcos, I got 18 points for IPPT and I did well for my sit test, but my A lvl CMI. Thus the OCS wannabes, purposely put me into the bottom5 eventhough I didn't offend them. In the end, I end up in 3rd Guards -
erm pullups - 5, broad jump - 203. haha that's why im kinda misantrophic and mentally fatigued after my bmt - all the politics and stuff, just for the sake of going to ocs. i think i did resonably well for sit test and my peer appraisal should be top 10 or 15.Originally posted by tarutaru:Which station u fail in IPPT?
er getting posting next weekend. yah i'll be doing my runs and pullups to maintain my fitness. if suay suay become men also resign to fate le. but hopefully get into mp then can join the drill coy. -
Aiya. you have to think this way. must know those generals also can't do ippt mah. so if they can't pass, then those recruits also no need to pass liao. if not, later the recruit say how come generals can fail ippt we cannot. right or not?Originally posted by gnoik:Now fail ippt oso can pass out le. Not like last time!
Army dam c0ck up nowadays -
FYI, many of the COLs and GENs can rack up decent IPPT results despite their appearances. Those who encountered COL Looi Eng Chai some time back should know what I mean.
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OMG.is wad u said true???...i thot only the very fit ones will go to guards???...u got 18pts for ippt but wad u got??..silver??...wah biang A lvl results will affect wan meh????....did u manage to get 2A n 2AO passes??...omg man i m getting my posting tis wk too...if i kena guards i rather go get run down by car liao.....Originally posted by equlus84:Not true. Dun worry. From my experience, if ur poly result and A level result is veri good and u are not the trouble maker of the platoon, Likely u will go to OCS or SISPEC. At the end of the BMT, there will be this peer appraisal thingy, this one must be good if u wanna go OCS. They will want to list the top5 ppl u like of the platoon and top 5 u dislike most. RUMOR, or should I say it is the truth, if ur name is high on everyone's list, u go to OCS, BUT if u kanna the bottom of the list.........., u might end up in siong units like Guards.
I did my BMT in January 2003. Then, the OCS wannabes were trying to wayang or should I say make themselves look smart in front of other, by criticising others leadership. There were those that gang up together, to vote for one another in the top5 list, and they even try to align with others to vote a particular guy into the bottom5. I was actually one of the victim that was sabo-ed into the bottom5. Bcos, I got 18 points for IPPT and I did well for my sit test, but my A lvl CMI. Thus the OCS wannabes, purposely put me into the bottom5 eventhough I didn't offend them. In the end, I end up in 3rd Guards -
u ahve no idea how things have changed. Now fait ippt cannot break 0 in chinup also can go Sispec and OCS.Originally posted by cornyfish2000:Wow, the world has changed so much. Too many people must have been failing their IPPT.
Ok then, maybe failed IPPT also can go OCS.
So threadstarter, Dun worry still got chance. Just pray hard enough i guess -
is that so? if that's the case, what kind of standards are future instructors going to set for their men? how are they going to inspire, motivate and set an example for their men when they themselves are not fit in the 1st place? how good a role model can they be?Originally posted by Archtomato:u have no idea how things have changed. Now fait ippt cannot break 0 in chinup also can go Sispec and OCS.
So threadstarter, Dun worry still got chance. Just pray hard enough i guess -
I thought the system has changed and the criteria tightened?Originally posted by Gordonator:is that so? if that's the case, what kind of standards are future instructors going to set for their men? how are they going to inspire, motivate and set an example for their men when they themselves are not fit in the 1st place? how good a role model can they be?
Archtomato, when are you referring to? This year or the time before August 2005? -
i kinda agree with you but one thing i have in mind is that fitness can be built up but leadership and inner qualities cannot be honed within a year or two. sometimes i feel that ocs is really a sportsman's game in the fact that as long as you have been actively involved in some sports, your fitness is up there. hence, you're almost on your way to ocs. undeniably, fitness is the most essential criteria for commanders in saf.Originally posted by Gordonator:is that so? if that's the case, what kind of standards are future instructors going to set for their men? how are they going to inspire, motivate and set an example for their men when they themselves are not fit in the 1st place? how good a role model can they be?
but how about those borderline cases in which their fitness pales in comparison but are definitely more oustanding leaders than those mentioned previously? do we abandon them? one more point to note too, my sgt once told me that we alvl students should be fortunate because once your fitness is up to mark you are on your way to command school. he has had ite intakers who were excellent leaders with fitness and they tried to boost them to ocs/sispec but they just couldnt make it because of their education level. i feel kinda indignant for them. meritocratic we may be, but shouldnt we give the ite students a second chance to prove themselves? -
true. for commanders, his ability to lead is indeed more important than his fitness level. especially true for commanders in combat units where they will stay on with the same men all the way till they ORD, maybe even during reservist. and the various trainings, exercises and missions they will go through with their men will also put their leardership skills to the test.
but for BMTC, the commanders gets new men every 2 or 3 months. leardership although still equally important but i believe this is the period the recruits buck up on their fitness level to better prepare them for the road ahead. thus instructors must be fit so as to provide a good role model.