Shorten NS by increasing productivity
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Gosh! Are you advocating we take Personal Responsibility for our actions and decisions??? But but, that's like... unheard of!Originally posted by Gedanken:And yet plenty of people manage to stay in shape and avoid wasting time on RT. If you put half the energy into taking care of yourself that you do in coming up with lame excuses, you might actually lead a productive life. Ruminate on that.
If anything, you've convinced me that RT's a good thing - while you're out there, we're not getting swamped by this tripe.
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Of course not - that would be too easy.Originally posted by qpicanto:i suppose your job is not menial type
And no, I'm not making an unqualified statement of that. When you've been at something for 15 hours, it's much easier if your job is something you can carry out with your mind just shut off. Try providing professional advice for that stretch of time, and the next three hours will show you what a real challenge is.
Over the last 15 years I've worked in jobs that require anything from secondary school to doctorate levels of education, and across that range of roles I've come across a whole lot of high performers - child-care workers, teachers, SOF commanders, managers of US$20-million-per-day turnover companies and recognised world leaders in organisational research. The one thing all of these performers have in common is this:
THEY FOCUS ON GETTING THE JOB DONE AND HAVE NO TIME TO WASTE ON EXCUSES, WHINGING OR LONG LEISURELY BREAKS.
At this juncture it's pretty obvious that you're not particularly high on achievement orientation. A few key things:
1) RT obviously upsets you, but you choose not to do anything to prevent it
2) There seems to be no end to your supply of excuses
3) You say "increasing productivity", but what you describe is simply cutting corners
4) You like neither your work nor NS conditions, but instead of focussing on solutions to the problem, you want time off
5) You refuse to recognise the nature and objectives of your job
In other words, you're just plain irresponsible. As long as you continue to hold a "the world owes me a living" mentality, you can fairly much count on being stuck with 12 hours of menial work a day. After all, you're not giving anybody any signs that you can be trusted with any important work. Despite all that, you'll continue to whinge about how miserable your life is.
How tiresome. -
Yes, it's an awful personality flaw, I know.Originally posted by Incedrius:Gosh! Are you advocating we take Personal Responsibility for our actions and decisions??? But but, that's like... unheard of! -
Originally posted by Gedanken:
Well said!
Of course not - that would be too easy.
And no, I'm not making an unqualified statement of that. When you've been at something for 15 hours, it's much easier if your job is something you can carry out with your mind just shut off. Try providing professional advice for that stretch of time, and the next three hours will show you what a real challenge is.
Over the last 15 years I've worked in jobs that require anything from secondary school to doctorate levels of education, and across that range of roles I've come across a whole lot of high performers - child-care workers, teachers, SOF commanders, managers of US$20-million-per-day turnover companies and recognised world leaders in organisational research. The one thing all of these performers have in common is this:
[b]THEY FOCUS ON GETTING THE JOB DONE AND HAVE NO TIME TO WASTE ON EXCUSES, WHINGING OR LONG LEISURELY BREAKS.
At this juncture it's pretty obvious that you're not particularly high on achievement orientation. A few key things:
1) RT obviously upsets you, but you choose not to do anything to prevent it
2) There seems to be no end to your supply of excuses
3) You say "increasing productivity", but what you describe is simply cutting corners
4) You like neither your work nor NS conditions, but instead of focussing on solutions to the problem, you want time off
5) You refuse to recognise the nature and objectives of your job
In other words, you're just plain irresponsible. As long as you continue to hold a "the world owes me a living" mentality, you can fairly much count on being stuck with 12 hours of menial work a day. After all, you're not giving anybody any signs that you can be trusted with any important work. Despite all that, you'll continue to whinge about how miserable your life is.
How tiresome.[/b]
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Originally posted by Gedanken:
'You like neither your work nor NS conditions, but instead of focussing on solutions to the problem, you want time off'
Of course not - that would be too easy.
And no, I'm not making an unqualified statement of that. When you've been at something for 15 hours, it's much easier if your job is something you can carry out with your mind just shut off. Try providing professional advice for that stretch of time, and the next three hours will show you what a real challenge is.
Over the last 15 years I've worked in jobs that require anything from secondary school to doctorate levels of education, and across that range of roles I've come across a whole lot of high performers - child-care workers, teachers, SOF commanders, managers of US$20-million-per-day turnover companies and recognised world leaders in organisational research. The one thing all of these performers have in common is this:
[b]THEY FOCUS ON GETTING THE JOB DONE AND HAVE NO TIME TO WASTE ON EXCUSES, WHINGING OR LONG LEISURELY BREAKS.
At this juncture it's pretty obvious that you're not particularly high on achievement orientation. A few key things:
1) RT obviously upsets you, but you choose not to do anything to prevent it
2) There seems to be no end to your supply of excuses
3) You say "increasing productivity", but what you describe is simply cutting corners
4) You like neither your work nor NS conditions, but instead of focussing on solutions to the problem, you want time off
5) You refuse to recognise the nature and objectives of your job
In other words, you're just plain irresponsible. As long as you continue to hold a "the world owes me a living" mentality, you can fairly much count on being stuck with 12 hours of menial work a day. After all, you're not giving anybody any signs that you can be trusted with any important work. Despite all that, you'll continue to whinge about how miserable your life is.
How tiresome.[/b]
u qoted me out of context,' time off ' is meant for attending RT.
Menial jobs also mean taxi drivers, delivery men, production operators etc 12 -hr shift worker is just one example only. -
Red herrings. None of the above changes the fact that you're not willing to do what it takes to avoid RT, and that you instead choose to waste your energy making lame excuses and coming up with ways to cut corners.Originally posted by qpicanto:u qoted me out of context,' time off ' is meant for attending RT.
Menial jobs also mean taxi drivers, delivery men, production operators etc 12 -hr shift worker is just one example only.
Your latest argument is as good as noticing the colour of the walls when the house is on fire, and demonstrates not only physical but intellectual laziness.
And it's still tiresome. -
Sincerely hope that our exchanges is not construed by u and others as challenge to your authority if any that is confered upon you by the Enlistment Act.Originally posted by Gedanken:Red herrings. None of the above changes the fact that you're not willing to do what it takes to avoid RT, and that you instead choose to waste your energy making lame excuses and coming up with ways to cut corners.
Your latest argument is as good as noticing the colour of the walls when the house is on fire, and demonstrates not only physical but intellectual laziness.
And it's still tiresome. -
More off-topic rubbish. Very well, if you are so incapable of keeping your eye on the ball, someone's going to have to point you in the right direction.
Forget taxi drivers, authority, the construal of others and what not. It's all pointless, irrelevant rubbish.
What's relevant here is a simple point: you claim to want to increase productivity, so well and good. Become more productive by getting and keeping yourself in shape, thereby saving time otherwise wasted on RT, apparently so that you can continue your menial labour. Anything else you suggest regarding RT is simply a sloppy effort to cut corners. -
u know how americans access their guys/ladies in the running test rite, think quite good wat u thinkOriginally posted by Gedanken:More off-topic rubbish. Very well, if you are so incapable of keeping your eye on the ball, someone's going to have to point you in the right direction.
Forget taxi drivers, authority, the construal of others and what not. It's all pointless, irrelevant rubbish.
What's relevant here is a simple point: you claim to want to increase productivity, so well and good. Become more productive by getting and keeping yourself in shape, thereby saving time otherwise wasted on RT, apparently so that you can continue your menial labour. Anything else you suggest regarding RT is simply a sloppy effort to cut corners. -
Yeah, thought so - your point's gone down in flames, and now you're just trying to slither away.
Ah well, whatever helps keep you going, I suppose. Truth be told, if I had to see a slacker like you every time I looked in the mirror, I'd probably have a hard time waking up every morning too.
Tell you what, I've got a great idea for you. Why not move to Egypt? You can continue living in denial, and you'd have no NS liabilities. -
i found the grading system quite gradual.think they have no broad jump or something but push up by minute how much one can do.Originally posted by Gedanken:Yeah, thought so - your point's gone down in flames, and now you're just trying to slither away.
Ah well, whatever helps keep you going, I suppose. Truth be told, if I had to see a slacker like you every time I looked in the mirror, I'd probably have a hard time waking up every morning too.
Tell you what, I've got a great idea for you. Why not move to Egypt? You can continue living in denial, and you'd have no NS liabilities.
actually i am not averse to running passed actually.
'slither away' not very nice leh. -
Gedanken, no point arguing wif him liao, he just dun get it.Originally posted by Gedanken:Yeah, thought so - your point's gone down in flames, and now you're just trying to slither away.
Ah well, whatever helps keep you going, I suppose. Truth be told, if I had to see a slacker like you every time I looked in the mirror, I'd probably have a hard time waking up every morning too.
Tell you what, I've got a great idea for you. Why not move to Egypt? You can continue living in denial, and you'd have no NS liabilities.