NS Adjustment Disorder: Call SAF Counselling Hotline
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It's sad that ARC still has such MOs. I suggest you go look up your OC, and if it fails, go see the School 2IC.Originally posted by Unknown_X:oh ya, u might wanna complain abt yr pc to the person next in command abt his heck care attitude.
too bad the nice guy left.. -
go commit suicide is totally a bad idea pls dun not tryOriginally posted by Unknown_X:1) go to the next person in the chain of command. (oc, csm, co bla bla bla)
2) ask s1 branch to quickly go collect the dockets.
3) go find mp.
4) call saf hotline.
5) when all else fails, go commit suicide. -
All the regular always believe that the NSF are all Keng-ing... That there is never a genuine case...
I really hope you get a good conclusion to this...
It sucks when you are really sick and they always think you are keng and punish u even more... Scared no one to do the sai-kung for them. -
Hi threadstarter.
Sorry to hear about the f**ked up PC you have in your company.
The next time your skin bleed, be sure to come into body contact with your PC.
Let him know how irritating and disgusting it can be.
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I think this even goes more so for training, in the schools. They will always figure you to be kenging. Usually, a unit environment can be slightly better.Originally posted by jianfish9:All the regular always believe that the NSF are all Keng-ing... That there is never a genuine case...
I really hope you get a good conclusion to this...
It sucks when you are really sick and they always think you are keng and punish u even more... Scared no one to do the sai-kung for them.
Next time before you report sick, ask the medic if your unit MO is in. Just pressure the MO and show them your skin conditions.
Sigh, I know some MOs are willing to give the benefit of the doubt on most medical matters, so they also don't want to play play. But in this case, I guess they figure it for only a skin condition and is not life threatening, so they don't bother. -
You are already C9L9, doubt if you can be downgraded further. Your problem seems to be with the uniform but you are a technician who needs to come into contact with oils and therefore required to wear protective gear. Seems to me your problem is one of vocation rather than a medical issue. Your specialist has recommended re-vocation and I think your MO will probably support that on medical grounds.
However, the decision about vocation and the responsibility for bringing in the medical dockets lies with manpower, not the MO. -
Quite true, save for the fact that Manpower is an almost non-existent branch in OETI.Originally posted by oxford mushroom:You are already C9L9, doubt if you can be downgraded further. Your problem seems to be with the uniform but you are a technician who needs to come into contact with oils and therefore required to wear protective gear. Seems to me your problem is one of vocation rather than a medical issue. Your specialist has recommended re-vocation and I think your MO will probably support that on medical grounds.
However, the decision about vocation and the responsibility for bringing in the medical dockets lies with manpower, not the MO.
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hmm.... a fresh medical grad doc tryin to act pro...
if ur PC said this way, he is challenging u to see if u dare to go to his superior. if genuine case, then y not GO for it! my advise is to type a formal letter... no use talking wan... and go c a specialist for ur respiratory problem... consult e specialist for some test and diagnosis... NSC is skin only... combine these two hospital specialist letters from two diff medical departments is the best.
one thing as others advises: be persisent... if u stop, they think u trying to keng but unsuccessful then stop. dont be afraid of these cb pple. when ur case is genuine, u hv the right to fight for it and press on. this is a very basic soldier right they cant take away.Originally posted by egaroiax:
Went to the MO today again. Unluckily he was just a replacement for our camp's MO for today. He told me even with my 2 specialist letter from NSC, both coming from profs, 1 from england the other local. He said if he was my camp MO he wouldn't even excuse me uniform at all.
Got back to normal duties today, made to do extra sai kang cause superiors believed my A&E case wasn't serious even thou i was coughing badly. =( I'm seriously at a blur. Chief clerk told me the medical dockets would be coming in by wednesday and my CSM is out on standby for a week. Standing in his place is a MSG who's rather nice but still told me he can't do anything abt my case. My PC hinted that i could go ahead and see the OC and CO on this matter but it won't help at all so i seriously am wondering what is going on.
My enzema seriousness is up to the point whereby when there's sweat/sand/oil or any other foreign stuff that comes into contact with the affected area it will just exaggerbate and start bleeding and stuff till the point whereby my steriod cream don't help. My cream has just been upgraded from 1% to a 3% content rating of steriod strength and i don't like it. Will calling the SAF hotline help? I'm still asking around for help but already 1 week into this unit and many of the staffs, masters and WOs think i'm keng-ing already.
Bah.. I'm trying to make the best outta army and all it seems is trying to bring me down. ~_~ -
next time go see MO, also bring all the creams and medicines u taking in the past and present. show evidence that ur medications' strength is upgraded.
if ur camp MO is still bo chup, then ask him politely as u dont want to challenge his medical authority, "Sir, do u think my medical condition warrants a medical review by the medical board?" -
Medical board on what grounds? The bloke has already been downgraded for his condition...change of vocation is not the purview of the MO..it's up to the unit.Originally posted by Luc85:next time go see MO, also bring all the creams and medicines u taking in the past and present. show evidence that ur medications' strength is upgraded.
if ur camp MO is still bo chup, then ask him politely as u dont want to challenge his medical authority, "Sir, do u think my medical condition warrants a medical review by the medical board?" -
Talk to your CO/OC. Explain the situation and ask to be xferred to a less demanding role. Might work.
I know a guy who managed to di just that - well, not exactly. He tried to commit suicide, was interviewed by the CO thereafter, and was transferred out of the unit to a less demanding role. -
I beg to differ. The Chairman of my Medical Board asked if I would prefer to remain in my vocation or be re-vocated.I believe they have some influence over such matters.Originally posted by oxford mushroom:Medical board on what grounds? The bloke has already been downgraded for his condition...change of vocation is not the purview of the MO..it's up to the unit.
But if he is already C9L9, what the MO could have done, IMHO is to send a few mails the way of the S1 and S3 Branch to keep them on their toes. -
SAF Hotline any use? Call just call and seek assistance. I know there is no limits put on calling the hotline, although some units try to impose seeking help through the chain of command 1st.
Honestly, if I were you, I would go talk to my MP already. I dun really give a damn since no one cares. I feel sad for you, because all my previous superiors were people with a listening ear (except when I). -
The MO can recommend re-vocation on medical grounds but in this case he already has such a recommendation that would have been endorsed by the MO. There is no role for medical board now...it's up to the unit.Originally posted by LazerLordz:I beg to differ. The Chairman of my Medical Board asked if I would prefer to remain in my vocation or be re-vocated.I believe they have some influence over such matters.
But if he is already C9L9, what the MO could have done, IMHO is to send a few mails the way of the S1 and S3 Branch to keep them on their toes. -
SAF Hotline any use? Call just call and seek assistance. I know there is no limits put on calling the hotline, although some units try to impose seeking help through the chain of command 1st.
if you go to MP, your unit won't charge you for not following GOM or insurbodination meh? they'll probably use that as an excuse to give you more sh*t back in camp lor.
Honestly, if I were you, I would go talk to my MP already. I dun really give a damn since no one cares. I feel sad for you, because all my previous superiors were people with a listening ear (except when I). -
Your PC can be charged for insubordination-not obeying the orders of the MO(who is higher than him in rank and appointment)Originally posted by dork3d:If your PC doesn't adhere to the excuse chit, try arranging an appointment with your unit S1 (Manpower Officer) and explain your condition to your S1.
He can also be charged for ill-treatment.
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Hmm.Originally posted by oxford mushroom:The MO can recommend re-vocation on medical grounds but in this case he already has such a recommendation that would have been endorsed by the MO. There is no role for medical board now...it's up to the unit.
Ic..
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blow this up to the press .. let whole of sg koe .. sure ur problem can kena address .. let ur parents do the fuss .. saf needs such "motivation" .. trust me.. their motto .. 'the decisive force' can say pui ccb knn .. as long as no complaints .. nothing will be better ..
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Don't get him in trouble for not going through the chain of command. If he gets charged he is the one who will sign extras..Originally posted by Saint`:blow this up to the press .. let whole of sg koe .. sure ur problem can kena address .. let ur parents do the fuss .. saf needs such "motivation" .. trust me.. their motto .. 'the decisive force' can say pui ccb knn .. as long as no complaints .. nothing will be better ..
There is a legitimate way to bypass your PC and unit S1....call the SAF Counselling Centre and tell them your story. They will make enquiries with your unit especially if you sound as if you are about to jump off a building. External pressure from MINDEF will be quite effective and you are certainly within your rights to call the Counselling Centre for help.. -
i think SAF is short handed for ppl in these kind of vocations because nowadays too many ppl downgrading.
they know ur condition can not be fatal so they not worried u collapse or anything serious which will land them in trouble.
u talk to ur OC or CO they shld do something -
i wonder how's the young man now.
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If they are short-handed, tell that to the fellas who wanted to sign on last year and were rejected due to over-staffing.Originally posted by mrwonderful:i think SAF is short handed for ppl in these kind of vocations because nowadays too many ppl downgrading.
they know ur condition can not be fatal so they not worried u collapse or anything serious which will land them in trouble.
u talk to ur OC or CO they shld do something -
then the question here is... y is he posted to a vocation where he is already proven medically unfit for due to his condition in the Vocational Advisory? isnt it obvious that his current health deteriorate due to his job scope?Originally posted by oxford mushroom:The MO can recommend re-vocation on medical grounds but in this case he already has such a recommendation that would have been endorsed by the MO. There is no role for medical board now...it's up to the unit. -
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find chief clerk or someone who can help u in the s1 br. request to be revocated. and like someone mentioned, bring along all yr medication and proof that yr condition have worsened.