Runners in the SAF are wrongly used
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Now that you brought this up, I remember in my unit, how my CO's runner was treated really well. Besides the fact that he was a pretty likeable guy, most of the officers and specialists treated him with some deferrence. I still remember seeing once how the HQ CSM actually asked him if he could do guard duty.Originally posted by Eikei:I think a runner's role outfield is pretty much fixed but the definition of a job scope of a runner in camp is very much more diversified.
Back in camp, my runner helps with AOPs, telting maps, copying maps, doing up presentation charts, typing stuff, collating results, collecting money and so on. He helps in falling in the platoon and when my commanders are unavailable, he marches my platoon to the cookhouse.
I've seen some people abuse their runners even outfield. I know of a CO who made his runner go back to base to collect food and cook for him. Even ate his runner's food. Honestly most of the time the people abusing runners are the specs, not much of the officers. Some specs see the runner as a dangerous position due to his proximity to the PC. Outfield when I'm down, my chain of command goes PC --> Runner --> PS until the PS is properly briefed by my runner then will the PS take over cos my runner practically knows the whole situation and plan all the time.
But the fact that your runner was such an integral cog to how you ran your platoon and obviously was smart enough to do both the combat side of things along with the admin side, proves my point (in my other post) to doubters out there that some LCPs in key positions should be promoted to CPLs and even sometimes given opportunities to hold higher appointments.
Just to round out the story, my CO's runner after ORD, went on to a pretty good US university and got 2 degrees. -
Wah...in that case...i can become general already!!... WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!Originally posted by Eikei:I think a runner's role outfield is pretty much fixed but the definition of a job scope of a runner in camp is very much more diversified.
Back in camp, my runner helps with AOPs, telting maps, copying maps, doing up presentation charts, typing stuff, collating results, collecting money and so on. He helps in falling in the platoon and when my commanders are unavailable, he marches my platoon to the cookhouse.
I've seen some people abuse their runners even outfield. I know of a CO who made his runner go back to base to collect food and cook for him. Even ate his runner's food. Honestly most of the time the people abusing runners are the specs, not much of the officers. Some specs see the runner as a dangerous position due to his proximity to the PC. Outfield when I'm down, my chain of command goes PC --> Runner --> PS until the PS is properly briefed by my runner then will the PS take over cos my runner practically knows the whole situation and plan all the time. -
in ur dreamsOriginally posted by mhcampboy:Wah...in that case...i can become general already!!... WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!! -
My runner was definitely deserving of a CPL. He didn't even mind serving the extra months just to become a CPL, unfortunately due to educational requirements, there is no way to promote him. He was one of the first to get the LCP though. Its quite hard to find someone who is enthusiatic enough to bother to learn his jobscope well enough.
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Originally posted by Eikei:My runner was definitely deserving of a CPL. He didn't even mind serving the extra months just to become a CPL, unfortunately due to educational requirements, there is no way to promote him. He was one of the first to get the LCP though. Its quite hard to find someone who is enthusiatic enough to bother to learn his jobscope well enough.
he dun want to be free arh? -
Hahaha strange but true.
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he must be rich also.Originally posted by Eikei:Hahaha strange but true.
go out work part time also more money
oh well there are weird pple around i guess -
He's just interested in and proud of his work I guess.
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cook food?Originally posted by insouciant:During active time, I saw a CO send his runner to go clean his bunk, cook food for him, etc. Even saw one runner sent up a tree to pluck rambutans!
wah lao, we serve NS to be soldiers not maids leh...