GCC: How to become a Guardsman Warrior/ Khaki Beret?
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Go get some heavy duty umbrellas...Buy some sandbags and a can of spray paint...Make a beret outta the sandbag..And not foegetting a pair of swimming trunks..
Find the highest building nearest to mindef..At 2am jump from the top of the building towards mindef in your swimming trunks...( Open ur umbrellas on the descend of coz )
Once landed..find the nearest building and spray "Ready to Strike" on the walls...Soon your recruiters will come to bring u away for an interview...
When asked why did u do it..Remember to answer..I was attempting to infiltrate ur territory from within, heliborne.
And when asked why are u in ur trunks..Tell them u thought of attempting a costal hook but could not find a proper water feature.
Gurantee they will take u in....
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......to prison.Originally posted by Twice A Day:Go get some heavy duty umbrellas...Buy some sandbags and a can of spray paint...Make a beret outta the sandbag..And not foegetting a pair of swimming trunks..
Find the highest building nearest to mindef..At 2am jump from the top of the building towards mindef in your swimming trunks...( Open ur umbrellas on the descend of coz )
Once landed..find the nearest building and spray "Ready to Strike" on the walls...Soon your recruiters will come to bring u away for an interview...
When asked why did u do it..Remember to answer..I was attempting to infiltrate ur territory from within, heliborne.
And when asked why are u in ur trunks..Tell them u thought of attempting a costal hook but could not find a proper water feature.
Gurantee they will take u in.... 
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WEl, guys, so much about going intop Guards. So there is no sure way to a Guards vocation in NS? BTW, I would like to know how one gets chosen to be a Guardsmen? Wad are the requiements?
And wad can expect when I am chosen to be a Guards? -
Isnt the answers enough for you?Originally posted by acwire_2125:WEl, guys, so much about going intop Guards. So there is no sure way to a Guards vocation in NS? BTW, I would like to know how one gets chosen to be a Guardsmen? Wad are the requiements?
And wad can expect when I am chosen to be a Guards?
Ok. I repeat again. You have five chances to become a Guardsmen.
ONE. Is to sign on. And like I mentioned...its only a chance. Doesnt mean you will get it.
TWO. You will be called to enlist str8 into the Guards Formation. Meaning BMT as an infantryman in Guards formation. After bmt then u will train for your GCC. Also depends on chance.
THREE. You will have your bmt in Tekong but after POP you will be enlisted to Guards formation. Normally this kind of cases you will be in their support company doing recce and stuffs or a guards rifleman. You will attend GCC.
FOUR. After POP, you will go to command school. sispec/ocs. then after you graduate from there and hopefully you are posted to Guards Formation. You will attend GCC.
FIVE. After POP from bmtc, if you are posted to Guards Formation as a support service, ie driver, storeman, clerk etc....... You may request from your S1 to go for the GCC. But this only apply if you are in Guards Formation.
GCC stands for guards conversion course.
All of the above are chances. There is no way you can become a guardsman at your own will.
Obviously you need to be fit to become guardsman. Guardsman are trained like infantry except they specialize in heliborn.
Does this answer your doubts? -
YEs, thank you very much.
Now, we'll move on about the Guards Conversion Course. How tough is it and wad can we appect from it? -
Its tough if you do not trained for it.Originally posted by acwire_2125:YEs, thank you very much.
Now, we'll move on about the Guards Conversion Course. How tough is it and wad can we appect from it?
Basically the conversion course by itself is not hard. there are 3 major things you must complete.
Heli-rappelling, a 10 km run and complete a coastal swim.
Not hard right? Its the rigorous training that made it hard. -
To tell you ...
There is nothing special in being a guardsman other than the beret you wear.
A guardsman receive INFANTRY training, only that you have to go thru GCC to obtain the Beret.
For Specialist and Officer, the GCC is more structured but still varies from GCC to GCC as the syllabus is determined by RSM based on guidelines by HQ Guards.
Sometimes, when the normal training program do not permit for extra , RSM usually allow a informal GCC where the compulsory items to be a guardsman are done by installments.
e.g. some 3GDS/7SIB commanders just go thru a 2 day summary exercise to obtain the beret simply because the ATEC and overseas training schedule don't permit the commanders to be away from their company lines for too long.
another example is that one may have failed GCC, but he only require to complete the failed items to get the beret without having to go thru the entire course again.
For Enlistees, there is no formal GCC other than the AIT you go thru after BMT. This AIT again varies from CO to RSM's requirements.
Some SIR receive even tougher AIT because their CO is either a guardsman himself or a commando. Therefore his expectations of his man is higher thus wanting a tough AIT.
To answer the other questions, you may be a Guardsman in NSF but later sign on in other arms.... you may wear your Guards Tab but not the beret.
The Tab is to show you have passed GCC, the beret is to show your vocation. But if you really want to follow SAF dress code, you are only allowed to wear the beret of yoru formation.
So NSF time you are guardsman and you sign on as a Pilot, you may still wear your Guards Tab.
FYI, Navy personnel are sometimes sent to GCC. -
navy personnel go GCC for what xia?Originally posted by Ponders:To tell you ...
There is nothing special in being a guardsman other than the beret you wear.
A guardsman receive INFANTRY training, only that you have to go thru GCC to obtain the Beret.
For Specialist and Officer, the GCC is more structured but still varies from GCC to GCC as the syllabus is determined by RSM based on guidelines by HQ Guards.
Sometimes, when the normal training program do not permit for extra , RSM usually allow a informal GCC where the compulsory items to be a guardsman are done by installments.
e.g. some 3GDS/7SIB commanders just go thru a 2 day summary exercise to obtain the beret simply because the ATEC and overseas training schedule don't permit the commanders to be away from their company lines for too long.
another example is that one may have failed GCC, but he only require to complete the failed items to get the beret without having to go thru the entire course again.
For Enlistees, there is no formal GCC other than the AIT you go thru after BMT. This AIT again varies from CO to RSM's requirements.
Some SIR receive even tougher AIT because their CO is either a guardsman himself or a commando. Therefore his expectations of his man is higher thus wanting a tough AIT.
To answer the other questions, you may be a Guardsman in NSF but later sign on in other arms.... you may wear your Guards Tab but not the beret.
The Tab is to show you have passed GCC, the beret is to show your vocation. But if you really want to follow SAF dress code, you are only allowed to wear the beret of yoru formation.
So NSF time you are guardsman and you sign on as a Pilot, you may still wear your Guards Tab.
FYI, Navy personnel are sometimes sent to GCC. -
just a question, NSF guards after ORD must they take out the Cap Badge Backing from their beret?
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S2 of the 6 SIR is a uards officer n he still wear the Guards beret.Originally posted by mhcampboy:That is IF they still stay at their Guards Formation. If they are posted to infantry unit or such, they can only wear the guards tab. but not the beret. Beret will follow what unit they are in... -
Beret = Vocations, as long as you are not OFFICIALLY Re-vocate, you will still put on the same beret WHERE EVER you go. That goes the same as the newly launced ARMS BADGE on the right collar.
GUARDS tab = Skill badge, even if you are re-vocate you will still put them on your uniform -
he got issues with his self esteem the only way to make up for it is to wear guards beret and tagOriginally posted by will4:S2 of the 6 SIR is a uards officer n he still wear the Guards beret. -
Serious?Originally posted by killstyle:he got issues with his self esteem the only way to make up for it is to wear guards beret and tag
Anyway, I met some trainers Guards officer in 2 PDF Comd n some of them still wear the khaki beret n the Guards tab. -
Wrong...Originally posted by mhcampboy:That is IF they still stay at their Guards Formation. If they are posted to infantry unit or such, they can only wear the guards tab. but not the beret. Beret will follow what unit they are in...
If they are in 7SIB, they will put on the 7SIB backing on their beret irregardless of whats their vocations, that is why you can see someone wearing blue or green beret puting on the red backing on their beret.
Once they are out of 7SIB then they will have to remove the backing, thats why you see the different of why some ppl wear khaki beret with or without the red backing. -
It's not about self-esteem, it's the proper dress code...Originally posted by killstyle:he got issues with his self esteem the only way to make up for it is to wear guards beret and tag -
As others have pointed out - as long as you pass your GCC, the khaki beret and guards tag stays with you regardless (as long as you remain guards qualified). Those are awards like any other medals or badges earned.
The same as commandos - they wear the maroon beret even if they are posted to other units. The maroon beret is an award.
The beret backing are for members of 7SIB only, regardless of vocation. Once out of 7SIB, you remove the beret backing. We removed the backing when we were transferred to another brigade for reservist duties. -
I'm not sure about the standards these days. I did my conversion 16 years ago.Originally posted by acwire_2125:YEs, thank you very much.
Now, we'll move on about the Guards Conversion Course. How tough is it and wad can we appect from it?
Back then -
The course varies from 4-8 weeks, depending on rank. How tough it was also depends on the intake and commanders. My CO, RSM, and the 4 CSMs are commandos/SOF during NS. They were tough, creative but very fair.
The basics then included -
1) Coastal swim/watermanship/small boats
2) Basic survival course
3) All sorts of advance obstacle courses, sometimes included swimming and shooting at the range with timing. (Depends on how creative the commanders are).
4) Basic demolition/explosives, weapons training
5) All sorts of running with timing, including passing a 10KM run(in fact during the course we were not allowed to walk, we run everywhere we go).
6) All sorts of turnouts and "games" played on us.
7) Forced marches are common.
8 ) Repelling from cliffs and helicopters, heli-ops
9) Typography with timing, plus advance obsticle course and shooting range with timing (I hated this one).
10) All sorts of lessons and exercises.
These are all that I remember. These days - the course should be very much easier and different, plus with internet forums, you are provided with tips. Back then, it was a surprise everyday.
I'm not too sure why you want to be a guardsman. Some advice as an old guardman - you want to be on-the-ball, be a commando or an officer at least. If not, slack and do admin work. If you are a guardsman, you will always be sandwiched between the commandos and infantry. Fact is, the commando unit is better in most ways, and infantry units will always strive to match or beat the guards standards, and some intakes do. Being caught in between is tough, you get negative comments and guards units tend to be benchmarks for all units to beat (sort of whipping boy).
I also get the impression that guards standards these days are not really as tough as what it used to be. They seem to be closer to the infantry now.
Army news just had an article about the first reservist officer doing GCC to be a guardsman. A Reservist - so how difficult can it be? -
I'm just curious to find out wad is the difference between Guards ATEC and infantry ATEC? For guards it is one deliberate assault, one defense and one hasty assault. How abt the infantry?
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16 years ago?
haa... my GCC was 22 yrs ago and GNCC was 21 yrs ago.
I still recall those days when we said Endurance Run Test was in SBO attire not PT kit like today, remember?
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GCC and GNCC?? were you a regular or something?Originally posted by erijazz:16 years ago?
haa... my GCC was 22 yrs ago and GNCC was 21 yrs ago.
I still recall those days when we said Endurance Run Test was in SBO attire not PT kit like today, remember? -
yup, after GCC then sign-on, went SAFINCOs then GNCC, ROD in 90sOriginally posted by bcoy:GCC and GNCC?? were you a regular or something? -
i am talking about Nsf. Not army regulars.Originally posted by will4:S2 of the 6 SIR is a uards officer n he still wear the Guards beret. -
Whoa! You all here lao jiao! haha! Got a set of Guards Uniform at home. I notice that the Guards tab is only on one side instead of both sides.
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whats so exclaiming about that?Originally posted by acwire_2125:Whoa! You all here lao jiao! haha! Got a set of Guards Uniform at home. I notice that the Guards tab is only on one side instead of both sides.
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So you can be Guardsmen and also go for Ranger course? Am I right? And then wear two tabs?