Why Military Driving License Lost to Civilian License?
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I got a Military Driving License (Class 3 and 4) which means I can drive everything from landrover to 5ton but because I am not Driver Vocation, I can't clock that 7000Km required. Why can't Military license be used for both Military and Civ vehicles.
Which means I must go through all the hassle to taking the driving lessons again and take the civilian license. Although cheaper, its also cost at least $500. And is so troublesome. Must take off, so waste.
If I can drive 3ton, I don't see why I can't drive a civilian car safely? Now civilian car got power steering, ABS and all the bells and whistles. Why can't I be qualified to drive a Civilian car if I am able to drive a class4 vehicle.
Isit the silly bueracracy or that the SAF dun want to be responsible for any civilian accident. If that is the case, I should not be able to drive a 3ton safely at all. -
normal car wont go beep beep beep when u chiong more than 50
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wow.. you got cls 3 and 4 but ur vocation is not driver... cool... i didnt know they give out lic just like tat...Originally posted by jianfish9:I got a Military Driving License (Class 3 and 4) which means I can drive everything from landrover to 5ton but because I am not Driver Vocation, I can't clock that 7000Km required. Why can't Military license be used for both Military and Civ vehicles.
Which means I must go through all the hassle to taking the driving lessons again and take the civilian license. Although cheaper, its also cost at least $500. And is so troublesome. Must take off, so waste.
If I can drive 3ton, I don't see why I can't drive a civilian car safely? Now civilian car got power steering, ABS and all the bells and whistles. Why can't I be qualified to drive a Civilian car if I am able to drive a class4 vehicle.
Isit the silly bueracracy or that the SAF dun want to be responsible for any civilian accident. If that is the case, I should not be able to drive a 3ton safely at all.
anyway... military license cant be use for civilian because u r trained differently.
in military, u are expected to get 7k... simply because.... they want u to be an experience driver before u can convert.... yes driving a car is easy...
but the feeling u get is different. u can say u drive big truck. but ur big truck is moving slow. u can compare between it and a civilian car.
its different. tat is why im sure... ur mt line do not str8away put ppl to becum a admin driver ie..gp car..minibus...
they simply need u to get experienced first. -
Dual-vocationalist?
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Auto Spec Tech?
VBS recall team huh?
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cant be dual vocationalist....Originally posted by Patrik:Dual-vocationalist?
dual vocat. only can drive class 3 vehicles... cannot drive class 4.
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Manouvering a 3ton/5ton is way tougher than a civilian car and have you ever drove a 3ton at more than 50kmph. I tell you its inertia is so big that its like driving your normal car at more than 100kmph. Also, if you ever tried steering a 3ton wheel, you will know.
And if you ever take the class 3&4 license in SAF, you will know that the final test is on a 3ton and not on a Landrover. The landrover is not even tested on. I can only assume its because they take it as a given that being able to handle a class4 vehicle means u can handle a class3 just as well or even better.
You don't ask people taking Class2B license to take Class2A license 1st do you?
Doesn't it show that they no confidence in the military license holder that it can handle a vehicle outside.
Anyway, Dual-Vocat do go for class3 and class 4 license. I think Signallers do that?
I not so lucky to be Tech but the SAF do give out license freely nowadays. At least it is one of the more useful skill you learn. -
I never say you what or what.Originally posted by jianfish9:Manouvering a 3ton/5ton is way tougher than a civilian car and have you ever drove a 3ton at more than 50kmph. I tell you its inertia is so big that its like driving your normal car at more than 100kmph. Also, if you ever tried steering a 3ton wheel, you will know.
And if you ever take the class 3&4 license in SAF, you will know that the final test is on a 3ton and not on a Landrover. The landrover is not even tested on. I can only assume its because they take it as a given that being able to handle a class4 vehicle means u can handle a class3 just as well or even better.
You don't ask people taking Class2B license to take Class2A license 1st do you?
Doesn't it show that they no confidence in the military license holder that it can handle a vehicle outside.
Anyway, Dual-Vocat do go for class3 and class 4 license. I think Signallers do that?
I not so lucky to be Tech but the SAF do give out license freely nowadays. At least it is one of the more useful skill you learn.
That is why, ur lic is only allowed in the SAF. The system of working in civilian and saf is totally different.
yes. i know LR is not tested during test day. but when u come back to unit... ur mt line have to orientate u further on LR. if u cant target a certain mileage...u r not allowed to drive it for detail.
if u claim ur unit mt line doesnt do tat... pls forward your complain to HQ S&T.
The bottomline is this..... SAF and civilian works differently.... that is why u have to clock certain mileage to convert ur lic.
just because you learn how to shoot, doesnt mean u can have a gun at home too right?... -
Hey jianfish9, i totally understand your anger. I was in the same situation as yourself. My vocation is transport sup. As you know, transport sup don't go on details much except on overseas ex. I ORDed with only 2000km ++ mileage.Originally posted by jianfish9:I got a Military Driving License (Class 3 and 4) which means I can drive everything from landrover to 5ton but because I am not Driver Vocation, I can't clock that 7000Km required. Why can't Military license be used for both Military and Civ vehicles.
Which means I must go through all the hassle to taking the driving lessons again and take the civilian license. Although cheaper, its also cost at least $500. And is so troublesome. Must take off, so waste.
If I can drive 3ton, I don't see why I can't drive a civilian car safely? Now civilian car got power steering, ABS and all the bells and whistles. Why can't I be qualified to drive a Civilian car if I am able to drive a class4 vehicle.
Isit the silly bueracracy or that the SAF dun want to be responsible for any civilian accident. If that is the case, I should not be able to drive a 3ton safely at all.
How much do you fall short from the required 7000?
Also, before i orded, i heard they are going to implement more changes to make a drivers task of converting to civi license harder. One accident nowadays and there goes your civi license. They are also going to implement a tracking system and new points reduction system to totally screw up drivers/transport sups more. IMTL west and east are going to implement it first.
Why all the fear? Here's a good suggestion to SAF. Employ DXO drivers who already owns a civi license as the complete package new SAF driver. Employ transportation companies' management people as our MTOs/MT warrants. [sacarsm]After all, we all know NSFs can't be trusted with anything[/sacarsm]. -
military license lousier than civilian license? nah, i believe you drive better than those that just got their license from driving centres today. but, why are you not given one then? reason being you did not clock enough mileage to be given a license just like that. in order to receive that civilian license from the SAF way, it is already very clear cut.
but you started comparing your skills/experience/drive-tonner to a civilian who drives only in a saloon car in the school circuit and its surrondings. that's where your frustration comes. just think positvely that the SAF has already given you an edge to get that civilian license with your driving background.
comparing things like this is not healthy lah. coz the example above can be applied to thousands of unfair cases in life. last time i serve 2 and half years, now people serve 2 years. so how? ask government to compensate my 6 months?? or say not fair, ask them the keep to 2 and half years?
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u talk as if saf own u a civilian license..
If it is ur job to drive in saf, thats ur luck.. why dun u think about those who want a military license but cant get one?
if every driver, good or bad attitude, 10 accidents or 0 accidents, gets to convert, where is the carrort and stick?
u want something.. fight for it.. earn it.. prove to people u deserve it. why blame the world when u know nothing will change?
even if u spend $500.. u still pay less than those learning outside..
for ur infor.. i converted with to a civilian license with a military license too.