Corporal (First Class) / CFC Rank

• nismoS132

  30 Jul 06, 21:06

  Promotion for the NSF is to recognise his performance and past contributions during NS. Due to the onerous nature of duties for those deployed in combat vocations, they are promoted earlier than those in service support vocations.
  
  The SAF regularly reviews the promotion guidelines, the last revision to the enlistee promotion guidelines being in 2011 and 2013. Currently, NSFs may be promoted to the Corporal (CPL) rank between the 12th and 18th month of service. The minimum service for promotion to Corporal First Class (CFC) has also been shortened in the 2013 revision.
  
  We would also like to highlight that promotion in rank is not an entitlement: servicemen would have to meet the stipulated minimum criteria to be eligible. Unit Commanders are also given the discretion to assess if a serviceman who qualifies for promotion is deserving of the promotion at the given point in time, after considering the operational requirements of the unit.

• mhcampboy

  30 Jul 06, 21:10

  You are drunk...
• ditzy

  30 Jul 06, 21:10

  So serve 2 years or 1/1/2?
• nismoS132

  30 Jul 06, 21:16

  what they said was, technicians will no longer get the rank of 3sg unless they got for some PS course. those who don't get to selected will be promoted to cpl 1st class.
• Gordonator

  30 Jul 06, 23:16

  who are these friends that told u this?
• Fucking Bitch

  30 Jul 06, 23:23

  i also heard this from our MSG trainers, no joke. seems like the big green monster is trying to save on the NSFs' wages while making them do more work left over by the regulars who got 'retrenched' by downsizing?
  
  
• juzernie

  30 Jul 06, 23:59

  Originally posted by nismoS132:

  friends tell me is a 3SG rank with a semi circle above like the typical cpl rank.

  If I am not wrong, yes SAF is bringing back the ranks from the past and creating new ones due to the 2 years liability period. Saw that directive being emailed out to all units when I went back to camp to visit my S1 and some colleagues.
  
  I think I saw Private First Class (PFC) too in a typical ROA. So don't be surprise!
• Deunamist

  31 Jul 06, 00:15

  I've seen quite a few PFCs from Maju..
• martin_lim85

  31 Jul 06, 00:25

  yea on saf day i also saw quite a few PFC nsf
• LazerLordz

  31 Jul 06, 00:30

  Maybe they will call it SPC (Specialist). Like the US Army, and how they renamed the Army RSM appointment to Sergeant Major of the Army.
• WiNtEr'SkiLL

  31 Jul 06, 01:10

  interesting .. would like to know more
  
• Eikei

  31 Jul 06, 06:46

  PFC is already in. CFC is in the works. PFC comes with a $10 pay increase if I am not wrong and is mainly as an incentive for those below A level/poly education levels and yet still cannot be given LCP due to quotas.
• insouciant

  31 Jul 06, 18:24

  Man if this is true...
  
  First they implement... then take away.. then put it back.. Can they ever make up their mind?
  
  They should look at how they award ranks instead of just creating ranks.
• Gordonator

  31 Jul 06, 19:54

  am i correct to say that all "specialists" that doesn't go through SISPEC will be promoted to Corporal First Class?
• LazerLordz

  31 Jul 06, 19:55

  Originally posted by Gordonator:

  am i correct to say that all "specialists" that doesn't go through SISPEC will be promoted to Corporal First Class?

  I don't think that's a good idea. Some vocations are 3SG for many different reasons, some relating to Ops or data classification.
• nismoS132

  31 Jul 06, 22:50

  Originally posted by Gordonator:

  who are these friends that told u this?

  the last batch of service 3SG, and the 1st batch of incoming Cpl FC.
• Gordonator

  31 Jul 06, 23:00

  something like this?
  
  
• nismoS132

  31 Jul 06, 23:04

  dunno man, no one seen it before.
• laurence82

  31 Jul 06, 23:16

  Strangely, during my time, PFCs are rare, and we only see them among the reservists, so when was the PFCs reintroduced?
  
  And so many 3SGs in the reservist lot....
• Gordonator

  31 Jul 06, 23:22

  this is what a corporal first class looks like before 1983.
  
  
• ^tamago^

  31 Jul 06, 23:28

  Originally posted by nismoS132:

  what they said was, technicians will no longer get the rank of 3sg unless they got for some PS course. those who don't get to selected will be promoted to cpl 1st class.

  first part is true, i heard of it before i ord.
  
  second part is quite amusing though not entirely impossible. but why they wan to promote the usage of CFC's?
• SingaporeMacross

  31 Jul 06, 23:33

  Originally posted by Eikei:

  PFC is already in. CFC is in the works. PFC comes with a $10 pay increase if I am not wrong and is mainly as an incentive for those below A level/poly education levels and yet still cannot be given LCP due to quotas.

  $10!!!
  
  Bus money?
• nismoS132

  31 Jul 06, 23:53

  Originally posted by ^tamago^:

  first part is true, i heard of it before i ord.
  
  second part is quite amusing though not entirely impossible. but why they wan to promote the usage of CFC's?

  i think 2 main reasons.
  1) cut cost.
  2) reduce middle management clutter, simply too many 3SGs liao.
  
  maybe next time even sect coms will be CFC too, and only PS will be 3SG.
• Eikei

  1 Aug 06, 00:14

  Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:

  $10!!!
  
  Bus money?

  More like one extra pack of cigs.
  
  Anyway 6SIR used PFC because more ops duties involve two people of which one is the local commander and hence needs the rank. Usually both are men.
• Icemoon

  1 Aug 06, 00:51

  Originally posted by laurence82:

  Strangely, during my time, PFCs are rare, and we only see them among the reservists, so when was the PFCs reintroduced?
  
  And so many 3SGs in the reservist lot....

  PFCs were very common during my time after the year 2000.
  
  It is for more outstanding soldiers who cannot get LCP due to appointment.