NS: Excuse Weapons
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does anyone know how come people who are excused from weapons,ammunitions and range permanently be posted to armour unit for reservist training as a frontline storeman.
is it because his medical status is only reflected as pes c2 without excuse chit in the new e-medical in ns.sg,which can only be their fault for not updating properly as his medical board chit clearly states that he is excused from it.there is no reason they could miss it since they can only classified him as c2 based on his medical board and nothing else.
what do you expect this poor chap to do during war time?
stick his excuse chit on his helmet and expect the enemy to check every soldiers' medical status before attacking?
so much for 3g army,thinking soldiers for their slogan.put yourselves in his shoe,would you want to have a son or any that is possible to such treatments in the future?
is this one misunfortunate event that is waiting to happen,another possible signed insurance cheque waiting to be sent if any.
I hope that those peole who are involved in this silly mistake,realized their fault. -
Aiyah, just because you posted to armour unit definitely must handle weopons and ammo meh?Originally posted by xxthunder:does anyone know how come people who are excused from weapons,ammunitions and range permanently be posted to armour unit for reservist training as a frontline storeman.
is it because his medical status is only reflected as pes c2 without excuse chit in the new e-medical in ns.sg,which can only be their fault for not updating properly as his medical board chit clearly states that he is excused from it.there is no reason they could miss it since they can only classified him as c2 based on his medical board and nothing else.
what do you expect this poor chap to do during war time?
stick his excuse chit on his helmet and expect the enemy to check every soldiers' medical status before attacking?
so much for 3g army,thinking soldiers for their slogan.put yourselves in his shoe,would you want to have a son or any that is possible to such treatments in the future?
is this one misunfortunate event that is waiting to happen,another possible signed insurance cheque waiting to be sent if any.
I hope that those peole who are involved in this silly mistake,realized their fault.
Storeman with that unit just means you have to look after all the other varied stores that make up an amour unit. Doesn't mean you have to draw weopons or fire one right? You can be the guy in charge of delivering food, tents, tables and other stuff.
And if you say during war time how? Then I will tell you this, if war time come, and you have to wear a uniform, I think for your own sake better draw a weopon anyway, excused or otherwise. Besides, when war breaks out, I think the PES system and such all gets thrown out the window unless you seriously pai ka, pai chew.
No need to get all worked up. -
agree.Originally posted by insouciant:And if you say during war time how? Then I will tell you this, if war time come, and you have to wear a uniform, I think for your own sake better draw a weopon anyway, excused or otherwise. Besides, when war breaks out, I think the PES system and such all gets thrown out the window unless you seriously pai ka, pai chew.
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why? your skin will rot when u touch weapon is it?
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so no one is going to take him seriously?
for all you know he could have broke his arm before, severely weakening it. he might not be able to handle the recoil from a weapon.
in an armour unit, even clerks draw arms and ammo when on exerise, let alone the storemen. nothing to say but suei. bring it up with mindef. call every single person you can and bug them about it. -
excuse weapon?? chao keng...
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must be went for shoulder op lar. after my shoulder op, i also excused weapon 6 mths. want to go for combat shooot and get money also cannot. tmd..go to mo and clear status, mo say the recoil of the rifle will damage the structure of my shoulder post op...so can't...
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Excused firing weopon is not excuse weopon and ammo, etc.
Can still draw weopon and go combat unit no? -
that's like saying you're not allowed to have sex but you can get a breast fuck.Originally posted by insouciant:Excused firing weopon is not excuse weopon and ammo, etc.
Can still draw weopon and go combat unit no? -
If you start reading from the beginning of this post, you might understand what I am getting at. Take things in context lah.Originally posted by nismoS132:that's like saying you're not allowed to have sex but you can get a breast fuck. -
it is on context. he's posted to an armour unit as a frontline storeman. that means unit chiong sua, he also chiong sua. he'll have to draw arms, as well as draw ammo.
when i went wallaby last year, about a quarter of my platoon were excused outfield, weapons or range, and we all still had to go, we all had to draw arms, and we all had to draw blanks. -
Buddy, from the start I already said being excused weopons and ammo and all that crap doesn't stop one from being posted to a combat unit.Originally posted by nismoS132:it is on context. he's posted to an armour unit as a frontline storeman. that means unit chiong sua, he also chiong sua. he'll have to draw arms, as well as draw ammo.
when i went wallaby last year, about a quarter of my platoon were excused outfield, weapons or range, and we all still had to go, we all had to draw arms, and we all had to draw blanks.
alien099 said maybe the threadstarter was excused firing due to op hence excused weopon, ammo and range permanently. I was just pointing out that being excused firing a weopon doesn't stop one from being able to draw a weopon and ammo. So your context for your comment? If you were agreeing with me, it sure was a strange way to put it.
Combat storeman where got chiong sua one??
Wouldn't that make him rifleman or sect comd instead of storeman? -
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Originally posted by nismoS132:
it is on context. he's posted to an armour unit as a frontline storeman. that means unit chiong sua, he also chiong sua. he'll have to draw arms, as well as draw ammo.
when i went wallaby last year, about a quarter of my platoon were excused outfield, weapons or range, and we all still had to go, we all had to draw arms, and we all had to draw blanks.
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It is precisely such situation that we are concerned of,imagine such things already happened in peace time training;what would happen in war.The last thing that any soldiers' mind is not be harmed unnecessarily if not stupidly uncalled situation.
Sometimes we really wonder what are standard procedures for?Is it only a guideline but not necessarily to follow?Or higher ranks can change it anytime,anywhere if not anyhow???
When they are being told to go ahead,can they refused;or even asked whoever involved(to the highest rank) to write down statements stating they are willing to bear all consequences and email it to their family member as a safekeep.
In any situation where they refuse,will they be charged for not obeying orders?When they are being clear of their charge after being charge,will they be compensated?
No parents in this world would raised their sons and daughters so that their well being,if not lives can be harmed or wasted in such uncalled situation.
Last but not least,you should be mindful of your own safety and well being,as only you and your body will bear the impact of your injuries and unjust consequences.
THERE IS SIMPLY NO SUBSTITUE FOR FEELING HURT,NOT EVEN YOUR SHADOW!!!! -
u scare the gun backfire?
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no such thing one lah,they post u the unit vocation u LL also have to accept one loh unless like what the other thread say earn more money then will not kena ICT loh
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=208974
,if not we poor people just have to suffer the unfairness
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pls do not believe any of those crap.Originally posted by KenPlus:no such thing one lah,they post u the unit vocation u LL also have to accept one loh unless like what the other thread say earn more money then will not kena ICT loh
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=208974
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Thinking soldiers is an oxymoron.
You want soldiers to vote by show of hands whether they should contemplate storming an enemy frontline after being briefed on the situation by their commander? -
A "thinking soldier" is one who can think of the best solutions to overcome a obstacle.Originally posted by charlize:Thinking soldiers is an oxymoron.
You want soldiers to vote by show of hands whether they should contemplate storming an enemy frontline after being briefed on the situation by their commander?
They didn't say anything about it being a "democratic army" did they?